Toadhall Saint Posted 4 August, 2020 Share Posted 4 August, 2020 22 minutes ago, Badger said: Hojberg is a full international, c £20m, possibly £15plus KWP (although still light in my view). KWP, no more than £10m for a player clearly surplus to requirements at spurs. In January £5m might have been closer to the mark. International or not he has less than a year on his contract. We could always say no and lose out in 11 months. probably right about KWP in Jan but he has been pivotal since the restart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 4 August, 2020 Share Posted 4 August, 2020 KWP is going to cost us less than we sold Targett for, albeit Targett had a bit more experience i’d suggest he isn’t as highly rated as KWP has been at times in his career. If it’s £18mil for Hojbjerg as mentioned above I think it’s fairly decent considering we’ve very much got our hands tied - a player in his final year who’s made it clear as day that he only wants to go to one club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 4 August, 2020 Share Posted 4 August, 2020 1 hour ago, the wedge said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/08/04/pierre-emile-hojbjergon-brink-joining-tottenham-for15million/ Way that reads makes it sound like it's come from the Spurs end, which probably means they're stating the lowest possible price for PEH and the full fat deal for KWP if all add-ons are achieved. Would expect anything reported from the Saints end will be exactly vice versa (full fat for PEH, lowest price for KWP), so that deal will most likely be far better than that is made out to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 4 August, 2020 Share Posted 4 August, 2020 1 hour ago, SaintsFan86 said: Its 18 For Pierre, 15, Plus 3 in add ons. KWP Is closer to 10 👍 This ties in with what I've heard as well 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 August, 2020 Share Posted 4 August, 2020 Not unhappy at this outcome. Welcome kwp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 August, 2020 Share Posted 4 August, 2020 Looks like this one has turned out exactly how my contact said it would, I shared what I was allowed at the time. I’ll see if he’ll let me share who we have lined up as Hojbjergs replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 4 August, 2020 Share Posted 4 August, 2020 1 hour ago, SaintsFan86 said: Its 18 For Pierre, 15, Plus 3 in add ons. KWP Is closer to 10 👍 You just have to look who is releasing the figures to the press. It's Spurs, so reading between the lines, you might be able to get somewhere nearer the truth. With your figures, I am presuming that that is with some knowledge of things. Questions..... 1) Are the add ons easily achievable? 2) If not, is the difference between the two players closer to £5m than £3m? (presume it is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 August, 2020 Share Posted 4 August, 2020 20 minutes ago, Turkish said: Looks like this one has turned out exactly how my contact said it would, I shared what I was allowed at the time. I’ll see if he’ll let me share who we have lined up as Hojbjergs replacement My sources are telling me its either the lad currently out on loan at Fulham, the American fella or someone else. Will be interesting to see how close our respective contacts tally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 August, 2020 Share Posted 4 August, 2020 22 minutes ago, Turkish said: Looks like this one has turned out exactly how my contact said it would, I shared what I was allowed at the time. I’ll see if he’ll let me share who we have lined up as Hojbjergs replacement Should be safe to share once it's mentioned in the papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 August, 2020 Share Posted 4 August, 2020 Forcing him to train with the kids has paid off big-style. We did get round to doing that, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSAINT Posted 4 August, 2020 Share Posted 4 August, 2020 15 minutes ago, trousers said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keef Posted 4 August, 2020 Share Posted 4 August, 2020 6 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Don't forget Brighton at home either, the first half was utter dross and an example of what has been served up at home all too often. Yeh - accepted - I didn't see it, but followed it on here and remember the comments were pretty scathing in the first half. Improved greatly in the 2nd half didn't it? In quite a few games we were better in the 2nd half and I think a lot of that was fitness - we seemed to come back from lock down, fitter than almost all the other teams I watched over that period. Credit to all the staff and players who obviously worked hard on fitness in lock down. That's why we were still scoring in the 106th and 110th minutes of games. Anyway I've digressed from the PEH topic - apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 August, 2020 Share Posted 4 August, 2020 4 minutes ago, Saint Keef said: Yeh - accepted - I didn't see it, but followed it on here and remember the comments were pretty scathing in the first half. Improved greatly in the 2nd half didn't it? In quite a few games we were better in the 2nd half and I think a lot of that was fitness - we seemed to come back from lock down, fitter than almost all the other teams I watched over that period. Credit to all the staff and players who obviously worked hard on fitness in lock down. That's why we were still scoring in the 106th and 110th minutes of games. Anyway I've digressed from the PEH topic - apologies. He played LB in the first half, less said about that the better! 2nd half we improved, but he still slowed us down I felt (lots of sideways and backwards, little penetration). I guess in a way that's not really his role, but you'd hope he could do a slightly better job of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 5 August, 2020 Share Posted 5 August, 2020 So, some people seem delighted to accept a situation where we just cave in to Levy's demands and sell PEH to Spurs on their terms. Maybe if it is laid out like this some will realise that it is not as simple as that... Option 1: Sell PEH to Spurs for peanuts and pay over the odds for KWP; other transfer business - not a lot as we can't afford it having failed to get a decent fee for PEH. Option 2: Sell PEH at the price that every other club is prepared to pay (£25m) and buy KWP for what he is worth now (probably £10m accepting that his value has appreciated as a result of his success for us during June/July); other transfer business - we have £15m to spend plus a little from our other successful transfer business, allowing us to contemplate signing either Salisu, McKennie, Rodriguez, Cash or whoever with that money. OK - of course the truth is going to be somewhere in the middle, but let's be clear: the poorer the deal we achieve in selling PEH and bying KWP, the less likely we will be able to do much other transfer business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 5 August, 2020 Share Posted 5 August, 2020 I don't see us getting 25M for Hojberg given his length of contract and fact he seems to have decided that's only place he's willing to go. Hopefully we can eke out a little more than 15M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 August, 2020 Share Posted 5 August, 2020 5 hours ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said: So, some people seem delighted to accept a situation where we just cave in to Levy's demands and sell PEH to Spurs on their terms. Maybe if it is laid out like this some will realise that it is not as simple as that... Option 1: Sell PEH to Spurs for peanuts and pay over the odds for KWP; other transfer business - not a lot as we can't afford it having failed to get a decent fee for PEH. Option 2: Sell PEH at the price that every other club is prepared to pay (£25m) and buy KWP for what he is worth now (probably £10m accepting that his value has appreciated as a result of his success for us during June/July); other transfer business - we have £15m to spend plus a little from our other successful transfer business, allowing us to contemplate signing either Salisu, McKennie, Rodriguez, Cash or whoever with that money. OK - of course the truth is going to be somewhere in the middle, but let's be clear: the poorer the deal we achieve in selling PEH and bying KWP, the less likely we will be able to do much other transfer business. Frankly think we're lucky they're not in for Ings to replace Kane, tbh. That would be far more damaging than losing Hoj, who is quite overrated in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 5 August, 2020 Share Posted 5 August, 2020 As reported, looks an okay deal especially if there are add-ons for PEH. I would have hoped for KWP+6 or 7m. This seems about there. If, as other reports indicate, Saints playing hardball, we might get there or above it. Reasonable business overall it seems. Not stunning, but reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 5 August, 2020 Share Posted 5 August, 2020 Looks like he’s on his way for £15m. Mugged again by spurs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 5 August, 2020 Share Posted 5 August, 2020 I think a bit of perspective is needed. He's in his last year and isn't worth £25m nor £20m for that matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 August, 2020 Share Posted 5 August, 2020 19 minutes ago, SW5 SAINT said: Looks like he’s on his way for £15m. Mugged again by spurs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 5 August, 2020 Share Posted 5 August, 2020 If they are arguing over bonus payments, it looks close . I just hope we don't go for the inning the league and winning the champions league which goy us a few more million from Liverpool. As it is Spurs, we would be better of putting clauses in for reaching a semi-final, or qualifying for the Europa League. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 5 August, 2020 Share Posted 5 August, 2020 Whatever the final numbers prove to be, let's hope the deal is done soon and we can move on. We don't want this to drag on into September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 5 August, 2020 Share Posted 5 August, 2020 Spurs don't want it to drag into September or even October (window closes 5th October). People say that Levy has us over a barrel, but this is one thing we can do to counter things, to drag it out. KWP will also be dragged out, so if he is our choice, then it is somewhat cutting our nose off to spite our face, that is unless Levy is demanding far too much for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 5 August, 2020 Share Posted 5 August, 2020 57 minutes ago, adriansfc said: Maybe he'll do well. But Jose has alienated a top player in Ndombele and now they'll have Hojbjerg instead 😆 Ndombele alienated himself by being less fit than Charlie Austin. Bags of talent, but can barely do 30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted 5 August, 2020 Share Posted 5 August, 2020 Spurs will look like they have a good deal - but selling is just one half of it - who you buy is another. VVD at £75m looked a decent deal - until we effectively replaced the best CB in the world with a load of dirge still out on loan now without troubling our 1st team and on treble VVDs wages. if it’s KWP plus a few million so be it - better than £25m to be pissed up the wall again, let’s just get it done, if KWP ends up at West Ham etc we’ve got a massive issue at right back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 Alex Crook saying that PEH bid accepted by saints and KWP deal agreed too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 7 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Does this mean £25M? If so, that is a very good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 Sounds like we had an acceptable offer from Everton and were just giving Hojbjerg a choice between Everton or staying. That made Spurs blink and match the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 Would be surprised if £25m, unless its the same £20m + £5m add ons that EFC supposedly agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 That would honestly be a stunning piece of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vin Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 https://twitter.com/AdamBlackmore/status/1291338700757114880?s=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 well done Saints for not caving in to Levy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 2 minutes ago, angelman said: Would be surprised if £25m, unless its the same £20m + £5m add ons that EFC supposedly agreed. ...but that is a deal worth £25m as it says. £20m up front sounds good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 Sounds like it's probably not the full 25M, but Spurs aren't taking the piss at least. Thanks Everton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 5 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: That would honestly be a stunning piece of business. It certainly would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy_D said: Sounds like it's probably not the full 25M, but Spurs aren't taking the piss at least. Thanks Everton! Indeed, always admired their dugouts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 Good job we paid Everton that bung to get the bid raised/fed the papers the line. (joking) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 14 minutes ago, vin said: https://twitter.com/AdamBlackmore/status/1291338700757114880?s=20 Probably halfway between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 15 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: That would honestly be a stunning piece of business. £12m for KWP. For a player clearly surplus to requirements at spurs. Stunning ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 Just now, Badger said: £12m for KWP. For a player clearly surplus to requirements at spurs. Stunning ? For a player we clearly want? They aren't going to bend over and give him to us for nothing. £12million for a starting premier league English rightback under 25 is a very good price in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 I'm 'appy with that. Do the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Badger said: £12m for KWP. For a player clearly surplus to requirements at spurs. Stunning ? Saints got a fee rising to £17m for Matthew Targett Edited 6 August, 2020 by Matthew Le God 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 Dan Sheldon reporting £20m + add ons for Hoj, £12m for KWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 1 minute ago, igsey said: Dan Sheldon reporting £20m + add ons for Hoj, £12m for KWP. that'll do nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 8 minutes ago, igsey said: Dan Sheldon reporting £20m + add ons for Hoj, £12m for KWP. Happy with that. So long PEH - let us know how the Champions League aspirations go?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 8 minutes ago, igsey said: Dan Sheldon reporting £20m + add ons for Hoj, £12m for KWP. As per: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 6 August, 2020 Share Posted 6 August, 2020 Looks like great business if these numbers are right. KWP and 8m+ for PEH was at the high end of my hopes. Good job on not folding like a house of cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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