Shroppie Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 14:20, SuperSAINT said: Expand This makes sense but I'd guess there's a shedload of haggling to be done.
The Curse of St Mary's Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12029979/tottenham-want-to-include-kyle-walker-peters-in-deal-to-sign-southamptons-pierre-emile-hojbjerg Another team has met the valuation but PEH wants spurs. £35m would be very decent business for saints with just a year left and being very limited with the ball at his feet. Everton would be my guess.
The Curse of St Mary's Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 https://twitter.com/JWTelegraph/status/1283839831034998785?s=19
Saint_clark Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 19:06, The Curse of St Mary's said: https://twitter.com/JWTelegraph/status/1283839831034998785?s=19 Expand We won't get £30million for him and shouldn't hold out for it leaving ourselves with a limited player with one eye on his next club. Tell them he's theirs for £20million.
Suhari Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 Bidding war! (I hope) When did we last have one of them?
Saint_clark Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 Fuck sake accept it before they have a chance to withdraw it.
Wade Garrett Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 If he’s worth £25m then the Sunday morning pub league is full of £30m players.
mrfahaji Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 Wow I thought we were going to lose him for around £10m, which would have been a bit disappointing. If someone offers £35m we'd be bonkers to knock it back (we won't, and no-one will). Anything over £20m would be pretty good given his contract situation I feel. I'd be happy enough for him to stay because I think he works well in our system and you can't guarantee a replacement will be successful - and he would need to be replaced. I'd rather not have to worry about that and focus strengthening other areas. However, if we get decent money for him I'm not going to be too gutted - he has good games but he also has poor ones. He covers a lot of ground but also gives the ball away cheaply and has poor composure.
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 21:20, Saint_clark said: Fuck sake accept it before they have a chance to withdraw it. Expand 👍🏼
S-Clarke Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 I'd take a fag packet for him, just get him gone. Dreadful player.
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 Gutted he wants to go to Spurs, really. Everton are the sort of club who will bid £45m when you want £35m.
Saint_clark Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 If someone has bid £25million we need to accept it right now and wrap him in cotton wool. That amount of money could be used to such good effect.
CB Fry Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 One topic that this entire forum is united on is that Hojberg is shite. We can't all be wrong. 1 1
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 If Harry Reed were to come back as Hojbjerg's replacement, surely that would be an upgrade? Unless it was an arm tattoo contest?
Turkish Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 21:31, CB Fry said: One topic that this entire forum is united on is that Hojberg is shite. We can't all be wrong. Expand He’s actually got me questioning Guardiolas management skills given how much he is meant to rate him.
Saint_clark Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 21:35, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: If Harry Reed were to come back as Hojbjerg's replacement, surely that would be an upgrade? Unless it was an arm tattoo contest? Expand Even Reed before a full seasons experience with Fulham was better than the performances we're seeing from Hojberg. I'll be really annoyed if we waste an opportunity to gain £25million or thereabouts without needing to sign a replacement player. 1
LuckyNumber7 Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 21:31, CB Fry said: One topic that this entire forum is united on is that Hojberg is shite. We can't all be wrong. Expand He's not shite, he's just very average. Personally if we could get around £10M plus KWP from Spurs and then give Reed a chance as his replacement, I would be pretty happy.
spyinthesky Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 According to Liverpool Echo, Everton have started transfer talks with a fee of £18m mentioned but Saints seem keen to include a player(s) that Everton prepared to let go.
beatlesaint Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 From BBC match report, the last bit is hilarious - They may soon lose midfielder Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg, however. News broke during the match that Everton have opened talks with Southampton for the Denmark international - who actually filled in at right-back to good effect.
S-Clarke Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 21:47, beatlesaint said: From BBC match report, the last bit is hilarious - They may soon lose midfielder Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg, however. News broke during the match that Everton have opened talks with Southampton for the Denmark international - who actually filled in at right-back to good effect. Expand Are they blind? 1
beatlesaint Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 21:49, S-Clarke said: Are they blind? Expand They obviously weren’t watching the same game as me.
Saint_clark Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 21:47, spyinthesky said: According to Liverpool Echo, Everton have started transfer talks with a fee of £18m mentioned but Saints seem keen to include a player(s) that Everton prepared to let go. Expand Looking at their squad I can't see anyone I would consider in both categories of Everton being prepared to let go and us wanting them, with the exception of perhaps Yannick Bolasie.
beavis17 Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 21:59, Saint_clark said: Looking at their squad I can't see anyone I would consider in both categories of Everton being prepared to let go and us wanting them, with the exception of perhaps Yannick Bolasie. Expand Will be Jonjoe Kenny I imagine, seeing as they know we want a right-back.
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 22:01, beavis17 said: Will be Jonjoe Kenny I imagine, seeing as they know we want a right-back. Expand Good shout.
Saint_clark Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 (edited) On 16/07/2020 at 22:01, beavis17 said: Will be Jonjoe Kenny I imagine, seeing as they know we want a right-back. Expand Isn't he seen as their replacement in waiting for Coleman? That's why I didn't include him. Edited 16 July, 2020 by Saint_clark
beavis17 Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 22:03, Saint_clark said: Isn't he seen as their replacement in waiting for Coleman? That's why I didn't include him. Expand They’ve got Sidibe, so I don’t know. 🤷♂️
Saint_clark Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 22:04, beavis17 said: They’ve got Sidibe, so I don’t know. 🤷♂️ Expand Only on loan though I thought?
beavis17 Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 22:24, Saint_clark said: Only on loan though I thought? Expand Yeah you’re right. I don’t know then. Really can’t see many other realistic players we’d be interested in as you say.
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 21:37, Saint_clark said: Even Reed before a full seasons experience with Fulham was better than the performances we're seeing from Hojberg. I'll be really annoyed if we waste an opportunity to gain £25million or thereabouts without needing to sign a replacement player. Expand Exactly. Reed's been one of the best players in the Championship this season. He can definitely do a job for us.
CB Fry Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 21:42, LuckyNumber7 said: He's not shite, he's just very average. Personally if we could get around £10M plus KWP from Spurs and then give Reed a chance as his replacement, I would be pretty happy. Expand Yes, fair enough. He's got a level of energy and all-action nature that is of some use, sometimes. But he can't pass for shit and more often than not a liability. But all this talk of him being good enough to command £30m fees. Insane.
iansums Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 I’d like to see some passing stats comparing JWP and Hojbjerg. It seems to me JWP rarely gives the ball away whereas Hojbjerg is doing so on a regular basis.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 On 17/07/2020 at 05:54, iansums said: I’d like to see some passing stats comparing JWP and Hojbjerg. It seems to me JWP rarely gives the ball away whereas Hojbjerg is doing so on a regular basis. Expand Funnily enough I thought exactly the same so I looked them up on Whoscored the other day and they were more similar than I thought. We all know though that PEH is a much poorer passer than JWP.
Hawkswood Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 18m ? No haggling needed. Snap their bloody hand off !!!!
Convict Colony Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 sell him to everton he's probably told his missus all about london thinking he's going to spurs
skintsaint Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 (edited) On 17/07/2020 at 06:06, for_heaven's_Saint said: Funnily enough I thought exactly the same so I looked them up on Whoscored the other day and they were more similar than I thought. We all know though that PEH is a much poorer passer than JWP. Expand PEH mainly plays safe balls back and sideways and still cocks up. Edited 17 July, 2020 by skintsaint 1
S-Clarke Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 Yeah, PEH's states are influenced by the fact he goes backwards more often than not. When he does keep the ball it's in a very passive and safe way. Slows the entire team down when he's in it. Even Romeu offers more incisive passing than he does.
SuperSAINT Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 On 17/07/2020 at 06:52, Convict Colony said: sell him to everton he's probably told his missus all about london thinking he's going to spurs Expand We are lucky Everton want him. Should hopefully speed Tottenham up a bit.
SKD Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 On 17/07/2020 at 05:54, iansums said: I’d like to see some passing stats comparing JWP and Hojbjerg. It seems to me JWP rarely gives the ball away whereas Hojbjerg is doing so on a regular basis. Expand The trouble is, both JWP and PEH are both good at recycling play and keeping the ball with side wards and backwards passes. neither are great at passing the ball forward, which is why I think we struggle a bit in home games as we don’t really have a play maker to break teams down. both are very high energy and good at winning the ball high up the pitch though, which I don’t think will be that easy to replace. ive seen a few suggestions of Reed being given a chance. He’s had a great season at Fulham, but like PEH amd JWP, he doesn’t offer much going forwards. I think we need a bit more creativity in there, especially for home games. Smallbone might be the answer in a year or 2, but he isn’t yet. I like the look of jankewitz as well. 1
SuperSAINT Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 Nothing new, but a good summing up of where we are.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 On 17/07/2020 at 07:31, S-Clarke said: Yeah, PEH's states are influenced by the fact he goes backwards more often than not. When he does keep the ball it's in a very passive and safe way. Slows the entire team down when he's in it. Even Romeu offers more incisive passing than he does. Expand Agreed. In fact I've actually been quite impressed with Romeu's forward passing since the restart, which is probably more of a sign of how bad PEH is at it than how good Romeu is.
Saint_Tony Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 Typical Everton signing. I know our recruitment has been poor, but they act more recklessly due to wanting to pay £35-£50 million for players. Richarlison aside, they've not got a lot going for them. Hojbjerg may go on to improve, but right now he's not good enough for Champions league level. No issues at all with him going.
Chez Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 BBC saying its only £14m, but with add ons: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53436848 hope those add ons are not related to Everton actually winning anything. I know finances have been severely effected by Covid19, but £14m seems a little low to me for an established Premiership midfielder.
igsey Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 Good to see the "wants to leave for CL football" thing was all bollocks, just wants a pay rise. Neither Everton nor Spurs are anywhere near CL and I'll be extremely surprised if they are next season too.
Badger Posted 17 July, 2020 Posted 17 July, 2020 On 17/07/2020 at 11:51, igsey said: Good to see the "wants to leave for CL football" thing was all bollocks, just wants a pay rise. Neither Everton nor Spurs are anywhere near CL and I'll be extremely surprised if they are next season too. Expand That could be the "add ons" in any deal though if either qualify for CL etc... The sort of Jackanory contract that Les Reed was probably master of.
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