skintsaint Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 6 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Offer him to Spurs for £10million and KWP. Don't sell him cheap, KWP not worth that much...20m + KWP if we need to.
Saint_clark Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 6 hours ago, skintsaint said: Don't sell him cheap, KWP not worth that much...20m + KWP if we need to. Only one year left on Hojbergs contract, we'd be lucky to get £20million for him therefore my valuation of KWP is only £10million itself.
beatlesaint Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 I still cant believe that Spurs really want him or is he the best they can afford ?
Teddeer Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 On his day Hojbjerg is a very good player. The problem is, he doesn't tend to have enough of those days. Over a season I would say Romeu is more consistent and the more accomplished footballer.
SuperSAINT Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 Not really related, but I completely forgot Ryan Sessegnon signed for Spurs. What's happened to him there?
ErwinK1961 Posted 8 July, 2020 Posted 8 July, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Can't see them stumping up the cash to afford him unfortunately - though just read they will bid £15m - surely we won't sell for £15m FFS? Unless they have any CB/RB's they want to chuck into the mix. Would much prefer he went there. Edited 8 July, 2020 by ErwinK1961
SuperSAINT Posted 8 July, 2020 Posted 8 July, 2020 Just now, ErwinK1961 said: Can't see them stumping up the cash to afford him unfortunately. Unless they have any CB/RB's they want to chuck into the mix. Would much prefer he went there. £15m, according to the article. They may as well bid low - it worked for Tadic!
igsey Posted 8 July, 2020 Posted 8 July, 2020 Ajax link is apparently coming from a very reliable journalist for Ajax, let's hope there's something of a bidding war brewing here.
EBS1980 Posted 8 July, 2020 Posted 8 July, 2020 Least at Ajax he’ll get champions league football something spurs or Everton won’t be able to offer him next season
St. Neil Posted 8 July, 2020 Posted 8 July, 2020 They should have some cash to spend after telling Onana, Tagliafico and van de Beek they can leave this summer.
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 July, 2020 Posted 8 July, 2020 2 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said: Can't see them stumping up the cash to afford him unfortunately - though just read they will bid £15m - surely we won't sell for £15m FFS? Unless they have any CB/RB's they want to chuck into the mix. Would much prefer he went there. Only one year left on his contract, isn't it? £15m seems a fair price to me.
Badger Posted 8 July, 2020 Posted 8 July, 2020 3 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: Only one year left on his contract, isn't it? £15m seems a fair price to me. What did we pay for him ?
saint1977 Posted 8 July, 2020 Posted 8 July, 2020 2 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: Only one year left on his contract, isn't it? £15m seems a fair price to me. Ajax won’t be able to match what he’s on here though, let alone what him and his mercenary for an agent want. Tadic moved for lifestyle reasons (style of Dutch League suits him better as well, but lot closer to see family in the Balkans there in normal circumstances) whereas PEH despite the agent guff is out for £££. Best bet is Everton who can blow Spurs and Ajax out of the water. Still, the more clubs interested the more the price creeps up, unless the player has set his heart on playing for Mourinho. If he has, KWP, Sessegnon on a year’s loan and £15m would reasonable.
SuperSAINT Posted 8 July, 2020 Posted 8 July, 2020 3 minutes ago, saint1977 said: Ajax won’t be able to match what he’s on here though, let alone what him and his mercenary for an agent want. Tadic moved for lifestyle reasons (style of Dutch League suits him better as well, but lot closer to see family in the Balkans there in normal circumstances) whereas PEH despite the agent guff is out for £££. Best bet is Everton who can blow Spurs and Ajax out of the water. Still, the more clubs interested the more the price creeps up, unless the player has set his heart on playing for Mourinho. If he has, KWP, Sessegnon on a year’s loan and £15m would reasonable. Get this man (or woman) doing our transfer deals
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 July, 2020 Posted 8 July, 2020 1 hour ago, Badger said: What did we pay for him ? "estimated fee of £12.8m" according to Wikipedia but that would have been amortised over the five years of his contract so his value on the books would be about £2.56m and this time next year it would be zero.
labibs Posted 8 July, 2020 Posted 8 July, 2020 8 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: Only one year left on his contract, isn't it? £15m seems a fair price to me. It’s an interesting question. Oxlade-Chamberlain was £35m with a year left on a lower value tv deal. But he’s English so higher value. I’d rather keep him than get £15m I think. Largely just to stop Ajax screwing us again
Dr. Kucho Posted 9 July, 2020 Posted 9 July, 2020 20 hours ago, saint1977 said: Ajax won’t be able to match what he’s on here though, let alone what him and his mercenary for an agent want. Tadic moved for lifestyle reasons (style of Dutch League suits him better as well, but lot closer to see family in the Balkans there in normal circumstances) whereas PEH despite the agent guff is out for £££. Best bet is Everton who can blow Spurs and Ajax out of the water. Still, the more clubs interested the more the price creeps up, unless the player has set his heart on playing for Mourinho. If he has, KWP, Sessegnon on a year’s loan and £15m would reasonable. Ajax could match his wages or even offer him more. Daley Blind is on 5 million a year and Ziyech wouldn’t have been far of that. Problem for Ajax is that except the games against Feyenoord, PSV and AZ, the competition is poor and not very challenging.
the saint in winchester Posted 9 July, 2020 Posted 9 July, 2020 The report I read had Ajax prepared to offer €30M. That seems reasonable as an offer. Although I would like the suggestion of KWP, plus Sessegon plus cash, however unlikely that is.
skintsaint Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 16 hours ago, the saint in winchester said: The report I read had Ajax prepared to offer €30M. That seems reasonable as an offer. sold!
Matthew Le God Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 On 09/07/2020 at 10:45, the saint in winchester said: The report I read had Ajax prepared to offer €30M. Which report said that?
SuperSAINT Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/pierre-emile-hojbjerg-transfer-hijack-22336002 ?!
Saint Garrett Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 6 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/pierre-emile-hojbjerg-transfer-hijack-22336002 ?! Wouldn't surprise me. He's a very good player on his day, and Pep was a big fan at Munich.
Convict Colony Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 I'm convinced other clubs just read in the papers who is interested in who and those with more money just buy players to spite their rivals - in this case city over spurs No way he goes to Ajax - as mentioned about the couple of big games a year he drops off everyones radar if they dont do the business in champs league which I could see happening. Better to stay in the uk and maintain exposure and wages.
Matthew Le God Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 1 minute ago, HarvSFC said: His agent is doing bits. How does making up a story in the Daily Record that Man City want a him make any difference to a multi million pound transaction?
SuperSAINT Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 9 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Wouldn't surprise me. He's a very good player on his day, and Pep was a big fan at Munich. I like him too. I get the Pep link & I get that they need more legs with Fernandinho getting older. Win-win for us if it’s true.
Teddeer Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 The bit that made me laugh was that City are about to lose David Silva.....come on, Hojbjerg couldn't lace his boots.
Matthew Le God Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 1 minute ago, Teddeer said: The bit that made me laugh was that City are about to lose David Silva.....come on, Hojbjerg couldn't lace his boots. Phil Foden is the replacement for David Silva. If Man City really do want Hojbjerg it would be to eventually replace 35 year old Fernandinho. Hojbjerg is getting a lot of stick on this forum, but for the role he plays he is very effective. Among the best ball winning stats for central midfielders in the league. 1
Convict Colony Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 18 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Phil Foden is the replacement for David Silva. If Man City really do want Hojbjerg it would be to eventually replace 35 year old Fernandinho. Hojbjerg is getting a lot of stick on this forum, but for the role he plays he is very effective. Among the best ball winning stats for central midfielders in the league. Understand but how much of his ball winning stats is brought about how we play and how we play him rather than individual skill set What were his stats like last year ?
Matthew Le God Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 Just now, Convict Colony said: Understand but how much of his ball winning stats is brought about how we play and how we play him rather than individual skill set That is a non sequitur. Plus in any case, Man City also press high up the pitch.
saintwbu Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 But Man City also rely on intricate passing in tight spaces, and in dangerous areas. I’m really not sure how he’d cope with that.
LeBizzier69 Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 All very well having some of the best ball winning stat’s, but he’s probably up there with best ball losing ones too. 1
SuperSAINT Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 I like Hojbjerg. If I had the choice, I’d want him to stay - but if he does leave - I’m curious to see how he does. I don’t think he’s as good as Morgan was when he left us, and he didn’t impress at Utd or Everton. 1
iansums Posted 11 July, 2020 Posted 11 July, 2020 I’d be amazed if City were in for him, his passing is not up to standard for City.
beatlesaint Posted 11 July, 2020 Posted 11 July, 2020 Guess we will see just how much Pep did rate him as a kid at Bayern Munich in the next few weeks then if there is any truth in the City link
SuperSAINT Posted 11 July, 2020 Posted 11 July, 2020 40 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: Guess we will see just how much Pep did rate him as a kid at Bayern Munich in the next few weeks then if there is any truth in the City link I don’t think anywhere else has reported the rumour. So depends how reliable Duncan Castles is.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 11 July, 2020 Posted 11 July, 2020 I just can’t see him going to city- he’s nowhere near reliable enough on the ball.
JRM Posted 11 July, 2020 Posted 11 July, 2020 If Hoijberg does leave I'd like to see us replace him Harrison Reed from Fulham, played well last night and won man of the match, seems to win it every time I see Fulham play, gets about the pitch, wins the ball and really helps to drive their midfield.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 14 minutes ago, adriansfc said: Not sure why City is surprising. They need extra energy is midfield, he's great at pressing, getting the ball back. Pep will think he can improve him. Not all their players need to be stars, they need a team. Plus he's an experienced prem player at a reasonable price due to his contract. Fernandinho is approaching the end of his career, they only really have Rodri for that role and have to manage 60 odd games a season. It’s surprising because he’s clearly not good enough. Even if Pep does ‘improve’ him, he’ll be nowhere near the required standard. For all his arm waving and running around, the fundamentals of touch, vision & passing ability are just not at the level they’ll be looking for. 2
saintwbu Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 It’s not typically our ‘style’ to go raiding the relegated teams from what i can recall - but Lerma, Billing, Douglas Luiz, McGinn (lol absolutely no chance) would all fit the bill as a Hojbjerg replacement imo. Appreciate some of them aren’t doing a spectacular job at the moment but think all would compliment Prowsey well.
S-Clarke Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 3 minutes ago, saintwbu said: It’s not typically our ‘style’ to go raiding the relegated teams from what i can recall - but Lerma, Billing, Douglas Luiz, McGinn (lol absolutely no chance) would all fit the bill as a Hojbjerg replacement imo. Appreciate some of them aren’t doing a spectacular job at the moment but think all would compliment Prowsey well. Douglas Luiz, really? I think he's garbage and has been all season for Villa. Very hyped and doesn't do a great deal aside from give the ball away from the games I've seen 15m wasted.
SaveloyMush Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 9 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Douglas Luiz, really? I think he's garbage and has been all season for Villa. Very hyped and doesn't do a great deal aside from give the ball away from the games I've seen 15m wasted. The perfect Hojbjerg replacement then! 1 2
Hawkswood Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 2 hours ago, SaveloyMush said: The perfect Hojbjerg replacement then! 😂👍
le_tiss Posted 13 July, 2020 Posted 13 July, 2020 14 hours ago, saintwbu said: It’s not typically our ‘style’ to go raiding the relegated teams from what i can recall - but Lerma, Billing, Douglas Luiz, McGinn (lol absolutely no chance) would all fit the bill as a Hojbjerg replacement imo. Appreciate some of them aren’t doing a spectacular job at the moment but think all would compliment Prowsey well. Lerma for me he is physical, quick, sly and all action - breaks up play and counter attacks - exactly what we need
saintwbu Posted 13 July, 2020 Posted 13 July, 2020 Luiz is pretty popular among Villa fans, seems to be high energy and for a player playing his first season in England and not speaking a single word of English when he arrived, I think he’s done well in some games i’ve seen. Likes a shot from outside the box too, with a couple of good goals this season, we could do a lot worse imo.
SuperSAINT Posted 14 July, 2020 Posted 14 July, 2020 Nothing particularly new here; https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/pierre-emile-hojbjerg-tottenham-jose-mourinho-kyle-walker-peters-a4497561.html Still favours a move to Spurs, apparently.
Turkish Posted 15 July, 2020 Posted 15 July, 2020 On 14/07/2020 at 10:23, SuperSAINT said: Nothing particularly new here; https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/pierre-emile-hojbjerg-tottenham-jose-mourinho-kyle-walker-peters-a4497561.html Still favours a move to Spurs, apparently. So it isn't about champions league football then. If it was just about that he would move to Ajax. Looking at Spurs and the improvement of Chelsea and Man United i cant see them playing champions league football for a few years now.
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2020 Posted 16 July, 2020 http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-hojbjerg-ajax-transfers/
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