spyinthesky Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Forster £10m Gabbiadini £16m Carrillo £19m Lamina £15m Boufal £15m Redmond £10m Claisie £6m Gardos £5m Shows the 'Black Box' needs a reboot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Forster £10m Gabbiadini £16m Carrillo £19m Lamina £15m Boufal £15m Redmond £10m Claisie £6m Gardos £5m Shows the 'Black Box' needs a reboot Had that nearly £100 milllion worth of talent played yesterday, the score would have been much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Had that nearly £100 milllion worth of talent played yesterday, the score would have been much worse.Correct. £100m of largely wasted money, not talent. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAndy14 Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Had that nearly £100 milllion worth of talent played yesterday, the score would have been much worse. Absolutely. How much of that will we recover, should we go down? FF might stay, but only if he's going to be Number 1. We might get close to £10m for him due to past form/reputation and the fact he's reaching his goalkeeping prime age. Gabbi we might get £10-15m for, again based on his previous reputation and international caps. Carrillo, God knows what will happen there. Lemina we may even make a profit on. Boufal, I doubt we will get close to the money we paid for him, but looking forward to seeing him leave anyway. Redmond I feel will still be with us in the Champ, should we go down. Clasie I thought we paid a lot more than £6m for? Was it not £11m or something like that? He will go fairly cheaply, anyway. Gardos, contract expiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 We will b have lucky to recoup half of that in the summer. God knows how much up front. Dread to think of the amount we are expected to pay for player purchase instalments on that lot in the coming year or so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Perhaps being protected so that they don't pick up any injuries prior to the upcoming end of season SFC fire sale. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Beer Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Absolutely. How much of that will we recover, should we go down? FF might stay, but only if he's going to be Number 1. We might get close to £10m for him due to past form/reputation and the fact he's reaching his goalkeeping prime age. Gabbi we might get £10-15m for, again based on his previous reputation and international caps. Carrillo, God knows what will happen there. Lemina we may even make a profit on. Boufal, I doubt we will get close to the money we paid for him, but looking forward to seeing him leave anyway. Redmond I feel will still be with us in the Champ, should we go down. Clasie I thought we paid a lot more than £6m for? Was it not £11m or something like that? He will go fairly cheaply, anyway. Gardos, contract expiry.Why would you be happy to see Boufal leave? Clearly talented and a bit of guidance could be amazing! Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Why would you be happy to see Boufal leave? Clearly talented and a bit of guidance could be amazing! Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Wages, his own attitude, need to recoup money quickly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAndy14 Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Why would you be happy to see Boufal leave? Clearly talented and a bit of guidance could be amazing! Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk As Batman says above. Can you see him giving his all for 46 games in the Champ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Why would you be happy to see Boufal leave? Clearly talented and a bit of guidance could be amazing! Sent from my SM-G950F using TapatalkHe's done nothing to suggest he's a team player. I'm pretty sure he didn't come to Saints to help them win things. He came to get noticed by a bigger club. The same may be true of Lemina. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 As Batman says above. Can you see him giving his all for 46 games in the Champ? Why wouldn't he? Because he's African? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Why wouldn't he? Because he's African?Absolutely not. As above, it's because he always strikes me as looking to do the spectacular to enhance his own reputation rather than playing fir the team. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Why would you be happy to see Boufal leave? Clearly talented and a bit of guidance could be amazing! Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Heard the exact same nonsense on this forum with Ramirez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 He's done nothing to suggest he's a team player. I'm pretty sure he didn't come to Saints to help them win things. He came to get noticed by a bigger club. The same may be true of Lemina. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Anyone coming to Saints because they think they will win things is evidently demented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Why wouldn't he? Because he's African? Because he’s a show pony who plays like he’s watching himself in the mirror rather what’s best for the team, when the going gets tough he just doesn’t look like he’s up for the battle. At the moment he’s looking like another waste of money to add to the list , another Gaston Ramirez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Anyone think Forster would be OK in the Championship. Kelvin was Ok in L1 and Championship, but could never quite cop with the PL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Anyone think Forster would be OK in the Championship. Kelvin was Ok in L1 and Championship, but could never quite cop with the PL? Maybe, if they use slightly smaller goals in the championship; otherwise probably not considering that the top corners, bottom corners, 6yd line and p spot are all in 'exactly' the same unreachable positions in the Championship as they were in the Prem. As an aside I'm surprised we haven't a thread for McCarthy who I think has been decent (only seen him on telly, not live). His stats don't look great but they're not going to playing behind our 'defence' and I can't think of many goals where he could have done more, he's certainly made more saves in half a season than Forster made in the preceeding season and a half. Interestingly one of the reasons many of the forum soccer nuts gave for staying with Forster so long was that McCarthy was incapable/unpickable at this level. Think he would be plenty good enough next season (hopefully with something a bit more solid in front of him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Ross Wilson has to leave at the end of the season. If he doesn't resign then he should be sacked. He has failed in his job, it's quite simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Ross Wilson has to leave at the end of the season. If he doesn't resign then he should be sacked. He has failed in his job, it's quite simple. He's a director now though isn't he, so probably a little more difficult to just let him go. Not sure why he's a director, but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint michael Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Forster £10m Gabbiadini £16m Carrillo £19m Lamina £15m Boufal £15m Redmond £10m Claisie £6m Gardos £5m Shows the 'Black Box' needs a reboot That’s really shocking and criminal mismanagement spending that much on this group. Can think of two or three proven premier players that would have made a difference for less than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 My worry is that we will have a job to sell them, will anyone pay them the wages we are paying? they can sit on the bench and laugh all the way to the bank. Football has produced a sick system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Had that nearly £100 milllion worth of talent played yesterday, the score would have been much worse. That one sentence states why the club got into this mess, what I would love to know is how did it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 He's a director now though isn't he, so probably a little more difficult to just let him go. Not sure why he's a director, but whatever. He’ll be more than that come the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Had that nearly £100 milllion worth of talent played yesterday, the score would have been much worse. Yep. 100m of false economies to cover the sale of much better players at much more revenue. Its still 100m p*ssed up against the wall, at the end of the day. The sanctioning of the Carillo purchase was a sackable offence in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 That one sentence states why the club got into this mess, what I would love to know is how did it happen. Sadly the fans lapped up the board (mainly Les reed's) PR guff and let them get away with it repeatedly. Those of us that did protest got told to shut as we were trolls. Ever summer window, there were some posters who pointed out what was happening... only for posters to ridicule them. The result is you get what we have here now. A failure to communicate (amongst the fans).... and the subsequent tolerance with which the abject failure of the club's management has been treated. We mock other clubs. But there is no way this would have been tolerated at West Ham/Liverpool/Everton etc. There would have been protests after the first summer. Let alone the subsequent 6 transfer windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 15 April, 2018 Author Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Forster £10m Gabbiadini £16m Carrillo £19m Lamina £15m Boufal £15m Redmond £10m Claisie £6m Gardos £5m Shows the 'Black Box' needs a reboot btw I now realise that Gabby was actually on the pitch yesterday but in line with his recent cameo appearances I didnt actually see him contribute anything so originally assumed he remained on the bench. Gabby seems to be a clone of Saginowski (who remembers him? Impressive in bursts, anonymous the rest of the time!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Why wouldn't he? Because he's African? Boufal is French, so is Lemina. They've just adopted the nationality of parents or grand parents because they couldn't get into the French senior side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Sadly the fans lapped up the board (mainly Les reed's) PR guff and let them get away with it repeatedly. Those of us that did protest got told to shut as we were trolls. Ever summer window, there were some posters who pointed out what was happening... only for posters to ridicule them. The result is you get what we have here now. A failure to communicate (amongst the fans).... and the subsequent tolerance with which the abject failure of the club's management has been treated. We mock other clubs. But there is no way this would have been tolerated at West Ham/Liverpool/Everton etc. There would have been protests after the first summer. Let alone the subsequent 6 transfer windows. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 btw I now realise that Gabby was actually on the pitch yesterday but in line with his recent cameo appearances I didnt actually see him contribute anything so originally assumed he remained on the bench. Gabby seems to be a clone of Saginowski (who remembers him? Impressive in bursts, anonymous the rest of the time!!!) Came on at 90+2 minutes. You could be forgiven for missing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 17 April, 2018 Share Posted 17 April, 2018 Their agents will get double bubble by moving them on again fairly quickly, they are the one who will find them another club for us, hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 17 April, 2018 Share Posted 17 April, 2018 Forster £10m Gabbiadini £16m Carrillo £19m Lamina £15m Boufal £15m Redmond £10m Claisie £6m Gardos £5m Shows the 'Black Box' needs a reboot What do you reckon we spend per WEEK on those player combined wages? When you stop and consider how much money we’re wasting it’s enough to put you off football for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 17 April, 2018 Share Posted 17 April, 2018 Boufal is French, so is Lemina. They've just adopted the nationality of parents or grand parents because they couldn't get into the French senior side. Lemina is Gabonese, he was born there not in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 17 April, 2018 Share Posted 17 April, 2018 What do you reckon we spend per WEEK on those player combined wages? When you stop and consider how much money we’re wasting it’s enough to put you off football for good. Probably about £400 - 450k I expect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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