SuperSAINT Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/apr/06/mark-hughes-southampton-way-jacob-steinberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 Good article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastman73 Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 Good read and quite true !! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 **** this Southampton way bull****. I wish points were awarded for most cringey PR crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 Complacency and arrogance was a by product of the 'Southampton Way' The signs were there years ago, but many were fooled by the spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 Complacency and arrogance was the 'Southampton Way'. Fixed it for you. Or at least after Cortese left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 The article hits the nail right on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 No point moaning about what ifs ,all history now. The only people that could of prevented all this are the ones that couldn't see it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 I agree with pretty much all of it, save for the paragraph about us not having our "self-respect stripped away by a disconnected owner". We appear now to have exactly that. Further, Kat in my view, while outwardly "having to do the decent thing" with daddy's cherished heirloom club, in reality couldn't wait to divest herself of something she had no deep affection or passion for. That slowly eroded the culture of success and ambition, and ultimately silenced the buzz of a club that regularly tweaked the noses of the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVER THE HILL Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 Kat in my view, while outwardly "having to do the decent thing" with daddy's cherished heirloom club, in reality couldn't wait to divest herself of something she had no deep affection or passion for. How do you know this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 The minute the Club started believing the hype and that there was a "Southampton Way", was our decline. IMO we got a little lucky that Koeman worked out so well and that we were given a stack of cash in the summer of 2014 and largely spent it well. That luck became labelled as a strategy when really it was a specific circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 The minute the Club started believing the hype and that there was a "Southampton Way", was our decline. IMO we got a little lucky that Koeman worked out so well and that we were given a stack of cash in the summer of 2014 and largely spent it well. That luck became labelled as a strategy when really it was a specific circumstance. Exactly charlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 Fixed it for you. Or at least after Cortese left. Too late, most people know that I and a few others warned of this scenario years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 Right now I don't give a damn about the Southampton Way or any other way.Pity we don't have some in mould of Docker, Steele, etc. Maybe a modern version of them, and some defenders that know how to defend. Crikey I can see McGrath turning in his grave at the sh*te we are playing in our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 Exactly charlie.Glad you are aligned, saintlee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 Too late, most people know that I and a few others warned of this scenario years ago. Why were you warning us on a message board. Should you not have taken your concerns to Mr Reed, Mr Kruger and Ms Liebherr? Thanks a bunch Dalek you and your friends have sunk our club by not acting. If you see a fire do you call 999 or do you post about it on a message board containing no firemen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 Why can't we keep anything nice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 6 April, 2018 Share Posted 6 April, 2018 Too late, most people know that I and a few others warned of this scenario years ago. Perhaps you would be so kind as to tell us our future for the next five years or so. Please do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 7 April, 2018 Share Posted 7 April, 2018 I agree with pretty much all of it, save for the paragraph about us not having our "self-respect stripped away by a disconnected owner". We appear now to have exactly that. Further, Kat in my view, while outwardly "having to do the decent thing" with daddy's cherished heirloom club, in reality couldn't wait to divest herself of something she had no deep affection or passion for. That slowly eroded the culture of success and ambition, and ultimately silenced the buzz of a club that regularly tweaked the noses of the Giants. If she couldn't wait to sell, why did she wait for seven years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 7 April, 2018 Share Posted 7 April, 2018 Too late, most people know that I and a few others warned of this scenario years ago. Lottery numbers for tonight please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 7 April, 2018 Share Posted 7 April, 2018 Too late, most people know that I and a few others warned of this scenario years ago. Lottery numbers for this week please? Sorry Dalek, but it is not rocket science that a club of our size is going to go through down periods. There is no stone walled guarantee that a new manager or a new player will always work out. As long as we dont have mega resources we are always going to struggle at some point as all of the other clubs like us do. You can blow your own trumpet all you like, but you have only been stating the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 7 April, 2018 Share Posted 7 April, 2018 That our model of buying low and consistently selling, usually high, was always going to eventually run out of steam. The issue seems to be that a) there is no plan B, and b) we have become the PL stepping stone club of choice. Anybody of any calibre who comes here and performs is gone within a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 7 April, 2018 Share Posted 7 April, 2018 Why were you warning us on a message board. Should you not have taken your concerns to Mr Reed, Mr Kruger and Ms Liebherr? Thanks a bunch Dalek you and your friends have sunk our club by not acting. If you see a fire do you call 999 or do you post about it on a message board containing no firemen? I was lambasted by people on the forum. Of course, for some, I was an inconvenient truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 7 April, 2018 Share Posted 7 April, 2018 Perhaps you would be so kind as to tell us our future for the next five years or so. Please do! I have already started in a previous thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 7 April, 2018 Share Posted 7 April, 2018 Lottery numbers for this week please? Sorry Dalek, but it is not rocket science that a club of our size is going to go through down periods. There is no stone walled guarantee that a new manager or a new player will always work out. As long as we dont have mega resources we are always going to struggle at some point as all of the other clubs like us do. You can blow your own trumpet all you like, but you have only been stating the obvious. But that is the point. I was 'stating the obvious' at a time when it was extremely unfashionable to say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 7 April, 2018 Share Posted 7 April, 2018 But that is the point. I was 'stating the obvious' at a time when it was extremely unfashionable to say so. Nah, don't buy that. more like the behaviour of some sad attention seeking c***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 7 April, 2018 Share Posted 7 April, 2018 I was lambasted by people on the forum. Of course, for some, I was an inconvenient truth. Not answering the questions again. If you were so sure we were spiralling out of control why didn’t you tell the people that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveloyMush Posted 7 April, 2018 Share Posted 7 April, 2018 Could it be that the players have a good idea of the owner's situation and intentions, explaining the couldn't-give-a-toss attitude of most? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMondo Posted 7 April, 2018 Share Posted 7 April, 2018 That our model of buying low and consistently selling, usually high, was always going to eventually run out of steam. The issue seems to be that a) there is no plan B, and b) we have become the PL stepping stone club of choice. Anybody of any calibre who comes here and performs is gone within a season. This is plan B: buy a load of overpriced sh*t that no other club would want. Problem solved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 8 April, 2018 Share Posted 8 April, 2018 Nah, don't buy that. more like the behaviour of some sad attention seeking c***. [emoji106] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 8 April, 2018 Share Posted 8 April, 2018 If she couldn't wait to sell, why did she wait for seven years?Because Saints were not worth anything decent previously. Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 8 April, 2018 Share Posted 8 April, 2018 If she couldn't wait to sell, why did she wait for seven years? What are you on about? She only got control of the Club in 2014, and by mid 2017 had sold the club a process she started at least a year earlier. 2 years from getting control to putting the club up for sale, didn't take her long did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintTex Posted 9 April, 2018 Share Posted 9 April, 2018 I was lambasted by people on the forum. Of course, for some, I was an inconvenient truth.hey, look at me, look at me!!! really, everyone look at me!! bugger, even in this terrible run, it's all about you. You couldn't care less about this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 9 April, 2018 Share Posted 9 April, 2018 hey, look at me, look at me!!! really, everyone look at me!! bugger, even in this terrible run, it's all about you. You couldn't care less about this club. Clearly a massive smelly gaping **** of a person. He’s posted 2 things about 5,000 times each. Hoddle and we’re sleepwalkimg to relegation. Finally he might get one of them right after all this tedious time and he’s as smug as ****. Pathetic little ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 9 April, 2018 Share Posted 9 April, 2018 But that is the point. I was 'stating the obvious' at a time when it was extremely unfashionable to say so. You weren't the only one. The wrist slitting brigade have all been saying it every season for years. Like a stopped clock you and they were going to be right at some point. It is never unfashionable to run down your club on an internet forum. That is the only reason many people seem to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 9 April, 2018 Share Posted 9 April, 2018 Clearly a massive smelly gaping **** of a person. He’s posted 2 things about 5,000 times each. Hoddle and we’re sleepwalkimg to relegation. Finally he might get one of them right after all this tedious time and he’s as smug as ****. Pathetic little ****. and true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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