SaintNewForest Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 19/01/2025 at 11:44, Matthew Le God said: Ross Wilson is the Chief Football Officer and Sporting Director at Nottingham Forest. Given how well they are doing... perhaps he isn't as incompetent as many in this thread believed! Expand People will judge him on his record here. His record here was mostly shit, so him doing a good job at Forest doesn't suddenly change how his spell here is looked upon. 2
Turkish Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 19/01/2025 at 12:15, SaintNewForest said: People will judge him on his record here. His record here was mostly shit, so him doing a good job at Forest doesn't suddenly change how his spell here is looked upon. Expand Crap with us crap with Rangers doing well at forest doesn’t change what he didn’t do before that
Matthew Le God Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 19/01/2025 at 12:58, Turkish said: Crap with us crap with Rangers doing well at forest doesn’t change what he didn’t do before that Expand Not really true. Whilst it is a 2 horse race, this is not 'crap'... Winning an historic 55th league title, their first Scottish Cup in 13 years, their run to the Europa League final and a return to the Champions League for the first time in 12 years.
Turkish Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 19/01/2025 at 13:06, Matthew Le God said: Not really true. Whilst it is a 2 horse race, this is not 'crap'... Winning an historic 55th league title, their first Scottish Cup in 13 years, their run to the Europa League final and a return to the Champions League for the first time in 12 years. Expand Was he the manager?
Matthew Le God Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 19/01/2025 at 14:44, Turkish said: Was he the manager? Expand You said he was 'crap'. So why was he 'crap'?
Turkish Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 19/01/2025 at 14:45, Matthew Le God said: You said he was 'crap'. So why was he 'crap'? Expand That doesn’t answer the question
Matthew Le God Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 19/01/2025 at 14:58, Turkish said: That doesn’t answer the question Expand No, he was not the manager. But that and your question is completely irrelevant. I was questioning you saying he was crap at Rangers. What is that claim based on?
S-Clarke Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 19/01/2025 at 15:01, Matthew Le God said: No, he was not the manager. But that and your question is completely irrelevant. I was questioning you saying he was crap at Rangers. What is that claim based on? Expand I'd say a good % of their fans, just have a read up on their views on him. He was hated up there, lumbered them with a load of crap. He may be pulling off some good things at Forest, but like others have said that doesn't automatically abstain him from his time here - where he quite frankly started our decline and financially handcuffed us with players like Elyounoussi, Vestergaard and Carillo to name a few. 3
Matthew Le God Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 19/01/2025 at 15:04, S-Clarke said: I'd say a good % of their fans, just have a read up on their views on him. He was hated up there, lumbered them with a load of crap. He may be pulling off some good things at Forest, but like others have said that doesn't automatically abstain him from his time here - where he quite frankly started our decline and financially handcuffed us with players like Elyounoussi, Vestergaard and Carillo to name a few. Expand What about the flip side? van Dijk, Romeu, Hojbjerg to name a few more positive signings. All of which went on to huge clubs.
Badger Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) On 19/01/2025 at 15:12, Matthew Le God said: What about the flip side? van Dijk, Romeu, Hojbjerg to name a few more positive signings. All of which went on to huge clubs. Expand I thought VVD predated Ross Wilson. Having checked though, he didn’t. That said, I doubt Wilson was the one who brought that deal with him in his first weeks with us. Edited January 20 by Badger
Matthew Le God Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) On 20/01/2025 at 21:53, Badger said: I thought VVD predated Ross Wilson. Having checked though, he didn’t. That said, I doubt Wilson was the one who brought that deal with him in his first weeks with us. Expand Wilson joining in March 2015 to van Dijk joining in September 2015 is more than his just his 'first weeks'. Sure Koeman likely has had a big influence, but Wilson was overseeing transfers and had been at the club for quite a few months before van Dijk arrived. So if you criticise him for the bad signings, you should also credit him for the good signings under his watch. Edited January 20 by Matthew Le God
Badger Posted January 20 Posted January 20 On 20/01/2025 at 22:09, Matthew Le God said: Wilson joining in March to van Dijk joining in September is more than his just his 'first weeks'. Expand I read he joined 1st July ( Transfer Market website).
Matthew Le God Posted January 20 Posted January 20 On 20/01/2025 at 22:12, Badger said: I read he joined 1st July ( Transfer Market website). Expand That site is not reliable. Wilson's LinkedIn says March 2015.
SaintNewForest Posted January 20 Posted January 20 We'd have been watching VVD long before Wilson was even interviewed I expect, these things don't just happen over a handful of games. 1
Badger Posted January 20 Posted January 20 On 20/01/2025 at 22:15, SaintNewForest said: We'd have been watching VVD long before Wilson was even interviewed I expect, these things don't just happen over a handful of games. Expand I recall he was linked from the time Koeman arrived (2014) 2
Matthew Le God Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) On 20/01/2025 at 22:15, SaintNewForest said: We'd have been watching VVD long before Wilson was even interviewed I expect, these things don't just happen over a handful of games. Expand Regardless of previous scouting and Koeman link, Wilson was still in charge of recruitment and would be responsible for giving a green light to a deal. If you criticise the bad players we signed during his time, you should be consistent and praise the good ones he green lit for signing. Edited January 20 by Matthew Le God
Matthew Le God Posted January 20 Posted January 20 On 20/01/2025 at 22:16, Badger said: I recall he was linked from the time Koeman arrived (2014) Expand It still requires Wilson giving it the green light to go ahead. If you criticise the bad signings, be consistent and praise the good ones he green lit.
Sparkkyy Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) On 20/01/2025 at 22:09, Matthew Le God said: Wilson joining in March 2015 to van Dijk joining in September 2015 is more than his just his 'first weeks'. Sure Koeman likely has had a big influence, but Wilson was overseeing transfers and had been at the club for quite a few months before van Dijk arrived. So if you criticise him for the bad signings, you should also credit him for the good signings under his watch. Expand You didn’t mention Wilson just green lighting the transfer in this post less than an hour ago. The story changes as you go. With that in mind, I will criticise you for this bad post and I should credit you for some of your good posts in the past. Edited January 20 by Sparkkyy 2
Sparkkyy Posted January 21 Posted January 21 On 20/01/2025 at 22:20, Matthew Le God said: It still requires Wilson giving it the green light to go ahead. If you criticise the bad signings, be consistent and praise the good ones he green lit. Expand The irony
Matthew Le God Posted January 21 Posted January 21 On 21/01/2025 at 17:52, Sparkkyy said: The irony Expand What are you suggesting I've not been consistent about?
Sparkkyy Posted January 21 Posted January 21 On 21/01/2025 at 17:59, Matthew Le God said: What are you suggesting I've not been consistent about? Expand This is the part where you focus on one tiny aspect of a discussion and try and “win” in the smallest way possible. It’s childlike behaviour. 1 1
Matthew Le God Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) On 21/01/2025 at 18:39, Sparkkyy said: This is the part where you focus on one tiny aspect of a discussion and try and “win” in the smallest way possible. It’s childlike behaviour. Expand I think you will find that is exactly what you've done. Edited January 21 by Matthew Le God 1
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