Wigan 0 Saints 2 - Post Match Thread

[ally_uk]

First half was horrendous, no confidence scared to pass the ball forward. Giving the ball away to easily. Amount of times I say screaming at the telly pass the ducking ball forwards.....

 

Second half looked better actually had the ball on the ground passing.... More composure I still don't rate that 19 million striker the amount we paid seems a bit excessive... Gabba had good movement.The subs were good romeu and Long to see out the game.

[Toomer]

Will miss the semi final as we set sail round the Canary islands on Ventura Saturday 21st April.

[ButtikonSaint]

Good, battling win which will help morale. Was kinda 424 which meant we had no playmaker in an advanced central midfield position to spray wide or keep up with runs, although Gabbi did try (good game from him irrespective of penalty miss. With the state of the pitch, the weather and Wigan chasing hard, Romeu could have come in a bit earlier to free up Hoj but the Manager got the win so can't complain. Now can we do this vs WH? I think the whole team did OK, certainly better than last few weeks.

Semi and off to Wembley,... happy days?

COYS

[Give it to Ron]

I loved the coach after we scored not sure if Bowen or Eddie but was great to see the passion and brains telling them to think and be ready.

 

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[East Kent Saint]

Things we haven't heard this season :

 

"and Southampton with FIVE men forward"

 

"Stephens wins it " and "Stephens has been good for Southampton today"

[beatlesaint]

Pity the keeper made such a great save from the penalty, would have done Gabbiadini the world of good.

If he carries on with two strikers I would play Long with Gabbiadini if only cos he can win the ball in the air and he will create space. As a lone striker Long is awful, they all are. As part of a two it’s a different story.

[SFC Forever]

Still trying to get used to this winning feeling. Really worried for first half hour but we gradually started to get into it and dominated the second half. Penalty should have wrapped up the game. Gabbi hit it well enough but to a place the keeper could reach sadly. Won't help his confidence.

[jamesfp1]

What time is the draw

[doddisalegend]

Controvesial opinion time...United our best chance in the semis now...?

 

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The dream would be united in the final saints winning 3-2 after a clearly off side goal is ruled onside....

[miserableoldgit]

He was terrible for the majority of the match, but that was a quality goal... From the left...

TBF they were all crap in the first half....

 

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[Greenridge]

Teflon Tadic seemingly not bothered about trying to impress the new manager.

[Crab Lungs]

I definitely think Paul Cook said what he said to wind the morons up down the road.

 

Much better second half, more purposeful going forwards and a bit of fluidity back. We won’t stay up on having a miserly defence though - we’re bad back there. I think Stephens with a dominant CB partner would be useful, Hoedt does him no favours at all. Half he time, he’s he wrong side of his man or marking Stephens. Yoshida please.

 

As for Carrillo... absolutely ineffective. It says something when your forward play becomes infinitely more heartening when Shane Long is brought on ... and he’s pretty down on is luck himself.

 

Well done Wigan and good luck for the rest of the season.

[Saint Fan CaM]

It’s great to win and by more than one game. I hope that Hughes learns much from this game and the players take courage, fight and confidence from it.

 

I want Guido to do well, really do...but I’m not seeing enough from him and I think this is largely down to his movement and positioning which is quite poor. Whether that’s due to others not finding him at the right time is arguable - I don’t think so...he just isn’t in the right place at the right time...ever.

 

I thought Cedrics goal was World class - in the move he looked Henry-like than Redmond...way way better, although admittedly Redmond created the opportunity. Gabbi made the pen too easy to call...left footed player will generally most times hit to left of the keepers down guess what the keeper pulled what looks like Worldy!

[SuperSAINT]

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[fanimal]

Should have let Guido take the penalty after Gabbi missed that earlier gift, just to get him off the mark. Wigan tired second half as I thought they would rather than us markedly changed.

[Dellman]

Jekyll and Hyde.

First half utterly horrible.

2nd so much more composed.

 

Got to give Hughes credit for actually causing an effect with his ht team talk and reasonable tactical moves.

 

On the negative side, can we please have someone on penalties able to confidently place it right in the corner. Don’t care how hard gabbi hit it bbc it was a perfect height for a goalkeeper.

 

Ohh and Carrillo is still garbage. Long was much better in his cameo imo.

Yes, we must have a regular penalty taker who can actually score, Bertrand has scored and he is captain, JWP has scored but doesn't always play, Gabbi has taken two and not scored either. So who should it be?

[Saint Fan CaM]

It’s great to win and by more than one game. I hope that Hughes learns much from this game and the players take courage, fight and confidence from it.

 

I want Guido to do well, really do...but I’m not seeing enough from him and I think this is largely down to his movement and positioning which is quite poor. Whether that’s due to others not finding him at the right time is arguable - I don’t think so...he just isn’t in the right place at the right time...ever.

 

I thought Cedrics goal was World class - in the move he looked Henry-like than Redmond...way way better, although admittedly Redmond created the opportunity. Gabbi made the pen too easy to call...left footed player will generally most times hit to left of the keepers down guess what the keeper pulled what looks like Worldy!

[DT]

Rather them than Spurs

 

Leicester our best chance

 

 

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[SuperSAINT]

It’s great to win and by more than one game. I hope that Hughes learns much from this game and the players take courage, fight and confidence from it.

 

I want Guido to do well, really do...but I’m not seeing enough from him and I think this is largely down to his movement and positioning which is quite poor. Whether that’s due to others not finding him at the right time is arguable - I don’t think so...he just isn’t in the right place at the right time...ever.

 

I thought Cedrics goal was World class - in the move he looked Henry-like than Redmond...way way better, although admittedly Redmond created the opportunity. Gabbi made the pen too easy to call...left footed player will generally most times hit to left of the keepers down guess what the keeper pulled what looks like Worldy!

 

I don't think he's great. I don't think he was ever going to get any change from their 2 lumps at the back.

 

He put a shift in though. If he's going to be our next Mickey Evans, he needs to score in the next game.

[Whitey Grandad]

Will miss the semi final as we set sail round the Canary islands on Ventura Saturday 21st April.

 

P&O usually show such matches on their TVs.

[Saint_clark]

Redmond might technically get the assist but it's very generous, he was trying to play a crossfield ball that would have been easily intercepted before it got massively deflected towards Cedric.

 

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[doddisalegend]

Terrible first half better second. Still a lot of issues for Hughes to work on a PL side would have field day in the first half.

 

Even second half I felt we dropped deep after the first goal but a good second put some gloss on the result.

 

Still no sign of strikers scoring which is a worry (though was that Guido's third assist with a near post flick on for Hoj's goal?)

 

Defence still looks very shaky but not sure their is much the manager can do with the current squad.

 

Nice to see Redmond putting in a couple of good balls for the penalty and Cedric's goal.

 

and a shout out for McCarthy who looks so much better than Forster in goal.

[DT]

Guess our away game with Leicester will move now

 

 

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[SuperSAINT]

I just feel relieved after that. A game of 2 halves, but encouraging that Hughes gets them going after a team talk.

 

What were the odds on those 2 scoring before the game?! (Lovely take from Cedric BTW).

 

Fullbacks put in a shift. Hoedt/Stephens looked good. Thought Redmond was good when he came on.

 

I will enjoy this feel-good feeling while I can!

[Saint Pete]

Yes, we must have a regular penalty taker who can actually score, Bertrand has scored and he is captain, JWP has scored but doesn't always play, Gabbi has taken two and not scored either. So who should it be?

 

I would give them to Bertrand as strikes a good ball and seems to have a bit more bottle than the others.

[sotonjoe]

Heard rumours of trouble and somebody being hit by flare. Is it nonsense?

 

 

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[Whitey Grandad]

Yes, we must have a regular penalty taker who can actually score, Bertrand has scored and he is captain, JWP has scored but doesn't always play, Gabbi has taken two and not scored either. So who should it be?

 

He scored one against Newcastle last October.

[OttawaSaint]

Ha, just had a read on POL

 

 

 

 

Haha, the only semi they’ll be getting is when they have a sneaky peak at the fishmongers window.

[Dimplex]

And there's the evidence of having a competent manager. Positive team selection, effective half time team talk and the right subs at the right time. Well done Sparky, looking forward to the rest of the season now. I think we'll be OK.

[Toomer]

P&O usually show such matches on their TVs.

 

Just hope our game is the 22nd.

[SO16_Saint]

Guess our away game with Leicester will move now

 

 

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Unless you want us to play 2 games in a day / 2 days

[SFC Forever]

Carillo is a total non entity. Most expensive non scoring striker we have ever bought. He needs time which he hasn't got. Drop him and put him with the U23 lot to learn how to score. Maybe with time he could come good.

[stknowle]

And there's the evidence of having a competent manager. Positive team selection, effective half time team talk and the right subs at the right time. Well done Sparky, looking forward to the rest of the season now. I think we'll be OK.

 

This basically. We weren't very good first half but we were still better than we were under Pellegrino and we looked like a different side second half like, you know, the manager actually influenced things.

[stknowle]

Carillo is a total non entity. Most expensive non scoring striker we have ever bought. He needs time which he hasn't got. Drop him and put him with the U23 lot to learn how to score. Maybe with time he could come good.

 

Have to say he looks utter utter crap.

[SO16_Saint]

Carillo is a total non entity. Most expensive non scoring striker we have ever bought. He needs time which he hasn't got. Drop him and put him with the U23 lot to learn how to score. Maybe with time he could come good.

 

Dani Osvaldo-esq

[doddisalegend]

Ha the Stokies gave our game its own match thread they sound just like us

 

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/277900/wigan-saints?page=1

 

this one is interesting comment

 

first game in charge of saints and he goes 2 up top!!

That is what has wound me up the most, he always refused to use it at Stoke!

[shurlock]

Terrible first half better second. Still a lot of issues for Hughes to work on a PL side would have field day in the first half.

 

Even second half I felt we dropped deep after the first goal but a good second put some gloss on the result.

 

Still no sign of strikers scoring which is a worry (though was that Guido's third assist with a near post flick on for Hoj's goal?)

 

Defence still looks very shaky but not sure their is much the manager can do with the current squad.

 

Nice to see Redmond putting in a couple of good balls for the penalty and Cedric's goal.

 

and a shout out for McCarthy who looks so much better than Forster in goal.

 

Agree with this.

[Kingsland Red]

Loved the comment from Bertrand in the post match interview about not starving the forwards of the ball.

[shurlock]

Loved the comment from Bertrand in the post match interview about not starving the forwards of the ball.

 

"...when you play 2 up top".

[SO16_Saint]

Loved the comment from Bertrand in the post match interview about not starving the forwards of the ball.

 

Also the answer to ‘what’s changed’. He said “commitment”

[Viking Saint]

Carillo getting all the stick. But he didn't miss a one on one and a penalty. Also motd showing his running in the corner routine giving Hoj the space to score.

 

Gabbiadini is likely to be rusty and lacking on confidence after so much time on the bench. We know he can score, give him time to get back into it. Cedric's goal was bizarrely brilliant, 100 yards covered from RB to upfront on the left, no way he'd have done that if MoPe had still been here

[Mr Dad]

Carillo is a total non entity. Most expensive non scoring striker we have ever bought. He needs time which he hasn't got. Drop him and put him with the U23 lot to learn how to score. Maybe with time he could come good.

 

I missed the start of the game and the team sheets etc.

 

I didn't know Carillo was playing until he was substituted off!

[Viking Saint]

Also the answer to ‘what’s changed’. He said “commitment”

 

Frankly, that should be a given irrespective of who the manager is.

[Jimmy_D]

Have to admit, when we got drawn away at Wigan or Man City, I didn't think we were going to have another trip to Wembley!

 

Two games away... Get that close and it's possible luck will run our way for both...

[SO16_Saint]

Frankly, that should be a given irrespective of who the manager is.

 

It should, and it’s worrying that the team didn’t put any commitment into playing under Pellegrino

[waylander]

I missed the start of the game and the team sheets etc.

 

I didn't know Carillo was playing until he was substituted off!

 

Agree tbat Carillo didn't do much but the centrehalf he was against is about 4 inches taller than him

[tobes8]

Worrying first half but better 2nd and seemed to play with more freedom and confidence. Still early days but a win should give everyone a bit of a lift. My concern is corillo, just doesn’t look like he’s gonna score but pele was the same at first. I’d go long and gabbiadini for West Ham.

[Saint Pete]

Terrible first half better second. Still a lot of issues for Hughes to work on a PL side would have field day in the first half.

 

Even second half I felt we dropped deep after the first goal but a good second put some gloss on the result.

 

Still no sign of strikers scoring which is a worry (though was that Guido's third assist with a near post flick on for Hoj's goal?)

 

Defence still looks very shaky but not sure their is much the manager can do with the current squad.

 

Nice to see Redmond putting in a couple of good balls for the penalty and Cedric's goal.

 

and a shout out for McCarthy who looks so much better than Forster in goal.

 

Disagree on the point about dropping too deep after first goal, I felt that we were continuing to try to push forward and go for a second goal, which ultimately we got. Wigan were bound to try and attack us in last few minutes but I thought we coped alright in general and our approach after going in front was certainly better than what we saw with MP in charge!

 

Of course, there are loads more areas for improvement, but sure Hughes is well aware of that!

[Saint Pete]

Worrying first half but better 2nd and seemed to play with more freedom and confidence. Still early days but a win should give everyone a bit of a lift. My concern is corillo, just doesn’t look like he’s gonna score but pele was the same at first. I’d go long and gabbiadini for West Ham.

 

I agree about starting Long in the next game. Think he is at least more of a nuisance to the opposition defence.

[simo]

Ha the Stokies gave our game its own match thread they sound just like us

 

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/277900/wigan-saints?page=1

 

this one is interesting comment

 

first game in charge of saints and he goes 2 up top!!

That is what has wound me up the most, he always refused to use it at Stoke!

 

They're not bitter though