lumuah Posted 12 March, 2018 Share Posted 12 March, 2018 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/03/11/southamptons-players-looked-complacent-arrogant-disinterested/ So it's not just the fans on here that think this then. The national press say our players are a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 March, 2018 Share Posted 12 March, 2018 Not even going to read it The telegraph...so bound to be the "club" defending it's corner so to speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 March, 2018 Share Posted 12 March, 2018 Not even going to read it The telegraph...so bound to be the "club" defending it's corner so to speak There is a clue in the op. It is not defending the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 March, 2018 Share Posted 12 March, 2018 Not even going to read it The telegraph...so bound to be the "club" defending it's corner so to speak Don't think Luke Edwards (the journo in question) is on the payroll, unlike Sam Wallace and Jeremy Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 March, 2018 Share Posted 12 March, 2018 There is a clue in the op. It is not defending the club. Where did I say the article is defending the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 12 March, 2018 Share Posted 12 March, 2018 IT has been so obvious for weeks. IMO the day I accepted we were finished was when we lost to Palace at home, the body language after the game said to me we were finished. The behaviours since then have been astounding with players coming out saying "we are too good to go down." When clearly we are rubbish. 5 wins all season and you are not worried? 5 wins all season and you think you have earned a pay cheque? TBH there are only a handful of players I even like at our club now. Most of them, I could not give a **** if they were sold, they appear to have no affinity with the club or the fans. They have no self respect even to put in a shift on the pitch. Absolutely, collectively, the worst group of people ever to grace Southampton shirts IMO. (Led badly, granted, and not bad players but the telegraph have it right..I honestly believe they could not care less if we go down.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 March, 2018 Share Posted 12 March, 2018 Not even going to read it The telegraph...so bound to be the "club" defending it's corner so to speak Pulled no punches whatsoever. Damning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 12 March, 2018 Share Posted 12 March, 2018 This article also summed up the ex-manager and I wish the ex-Vice Chair as well. Get Silva in, double training sessions, running, running, more running. They might not like him for it and be puking their guts around Staplewood but to be vaguely fit professional athletes will do them good. Would like to see some reality from the club and new manager for the remaining games as for me, even at Wigan, we are big underdogs. Let's fight like underdogs do and cause a few upsets. The only players for me this season who have played at PL standard are McCarthy, Austin and Lemina. Would question if the rest have the quality or bottle to be top flight players any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItchenRob Posted 12 March, 2018 Share Posted 12 March, 2018 I thought the Telegraph was supposed to be a quality paper. I think they probably mean "uninterested". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 12 March, 2018 Share Posted 12 March, 2018 Not even going to read it The telegraph...so bound to be the "club" defending it's corner so to speak Maybe you should read it then its pretty spot on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 12 March, 2018 Share Posted 12 March, 2018 This article also summed up the ex-manager and I wish the ex-Vice Chair as well. Get Silva in, double training sessions, running, running, more running. They might not like him for it and be puking their guts around Staplewood but to be vaguely fit professional athletes will do them good. Would like to see some reality from the club and new manager for the remaining games as for me, even at Wigan, we are big underdogs. Let's fight like underdogs do and cause a few upsets. The only players for me this season who have played at PL standard are McCarthy, Austin and Lemina. Would question if the rest have the quality or bottle to be top flight players any longer. I'd make a case for a few but generally take the point. Think Stephens has done okay all things considered and has at least shown some bottle - even if he would benefit from being part of a more assured backline. Sims has shown enough in cameos to make me think he could give something too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 12 March, 2018 Share Posted 12 March, 2018 As I've said before, this is the most unlikable set of players I think we've ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 12 March, 2018 Share Posted 12 March, 2018 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/03/11/southamptons-players-looked-complacent-arrogant-disinterested/ So it's not just the fans on here that think this then. The national press say our players are a disgrace. Reading that, Mark Hughes is exactly what we need right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 March, 2018 Share Posted 13 March, 2018 Reading that, Mark Hughes is exactly what we need right now Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 March, 2018 Share Posted 13 March, 2018 Where did I say the article is defending the club? Go back and read what you wrote. You said you would not read it because as it was in the Telegraph "so bound to be the 'club' defending its corner." It isnt at all. But even if it was, perhaps reading something that challenges your built in prejudices occasionally wouldn't hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 13 March, 2018 Share Posted 13 March, 2018 Don't doubt that some of the players already have moves agreed for the summer................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 March, 2018 Share Posted 13 March, 2018 Go back and read what you wrote. You said you would not read it because as it was in the Telegraph "so bound to be the 'club' defending its corner." It isnt at all. But even if it was, perhaps reading something that challenges your built in prejudices occasionally wouldn't hurt?That's pretty ironic given the amount of time you spend metaphorically sticking your fingers in your ears and humming loudly when someone tries to present some facts or opinions you disagree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 13 March, 2018 Share Posted 13 March, 2018 I thought the Telegraph was supposed to be a quality paper. I think they probably mean "uninterested". Not so: disinterested and uninterested have a fluid history (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disinterested). Note the last paragraph: "Still, use of the "not interested" and "no longer interested" senses of disinterested will incur the disapproval of some who may not fully appreciate the history of this word or the subtleties of its present use.". I suspect most on here are uninterested in that history though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItchenRob Posted 13 March, 2018 Share Posted 13 March, 2018 Not so: disinterested and uninterested have a fluid history (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disinterested). Note the last paragraph: "Still, use of the "not interested" and "no longer interested" senses of disinterested will incur the disapproval of some who may not fully appreciate the history of this word or the subtleties of its present use.". I suspect most on here are uninterested in that history though That's "interesting" ! Thanks for this. The OED also indicates that both are used more interchangeably than I thought : "Nowhere are the battle lines more deeply drawn in usage questions than over the difference between disinterested and uninterested. According to traditional guidelines, disinterested should never be used to mean ‘not interested’ (i.e. it is not a synonym for uninterested) but only to mean ‘impartial’, as in the judgements of disinterested outsiders are likely to be more useful. Ironically, the earliest recorded sense of disinterested is for the disputed sense. Today, the ‘incorrect’ use of disinterested is widespread: around a quarter of citations in the Oxford English Corpus for disinterested are for this sense". I would take it up with my English teacher but I suspect he's probably no longer with us. Anyway, Mark Hughes now odds on with Betfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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