Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 Four points minimum might be enough, however there are likely to be a number of surprise results from unlikely candidates over the last 3 games. We need to focus purely on what we do...nothing we can do about the others and nothing is certain. Lose to Everton and I think it’s over IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 Will be almost be more annoying if we do drop now as we will have clearly seen that had we got rid of Pellegrino sooner or not had one of the worst January windows ever for a relegation threatened side it could easily have been avoided. I had resigned myself to the fact we were 99% relegated after the Chelsea game. Hughes is a standard PL Manager but has made a huge difference to the attitude and energy of the team, but ultimately we don't win many games and still need to win one from two as a minimum (excluding the obvious defeat to City). IMO we deserve relegation, but have finally given ourselves a realistic eacape route provided we get something at Goodison. I still have zero faith in our centre backs though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation I think the Hammers at up to 14-1 for relegation is a surprisingly good punt. I don't expect them to go down but I'm not sure they deserve to be that high. Anyone fancy a cheeky 500-1 bet on Watford getting relegated?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation I think the Hammers at up to 14-1 for relegation is a surprisingly good punt. I don't expect them to go down but I'm not sure they deserve to be that high. Anyone fancy a cheeky 500-1 bet on Watford getting relegated?! I'd think that any side with the same number or more points than Huddersfield but with a better GD is a poor bet for relegation. Just can't see Huddersfield getting any more points and at -29 GD already, 35 points and better than say -32 might be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 1 May, 2018 Author Share Posted 1 May, 2018 TBF though, people were saying Brighton wouldn't get any more points and since that, they've got 2 draws vs Burnley away and Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 I just cannot see using staying up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 I just cannot see using staying up My heart tells me the Bournemouth game was a turning point and we will do enough to scrape survival. My head tells me the Bournemouth game is just prolonging the inevitable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 My heart tells me the Bournemouth game was a turning point and we will do enough to scrape survival. My head tells me the Bournemouth game is just prolonging the inevitable... I don't know any more. I'd think that if we can beat Swansea (I don't see us getting anything at Goodison) and just need a point at home on the last day, we'll get it, even against Citeh. There the World Cup effect might even do us a favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 Saints being Saints, we'll get a point at Everton, get all excited, and blow it 2-1 at Swansea........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 we're going to get a point at Everton and Swansea will lose to Bournemouth, Stoke lose to Palace. We will beat Swansea and that will be that, barring a very large swing in goal difference. We will enjoy the Man City game with the sun on our faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 we're going to get a point at Everton and Swansea will lose to Bournemouth, Stoke lose to Palace. We will beat Swansea and that will be that, barring a very large swing in goal difference. We will enjoy the Man City game with the sun on our faces. You are ****ing mad!! It will rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 we're going to get a point at Everton and Swansea will lose to Bournemouth, Stoke lose to Palace. We will beat Swansea and that will be that, barring a very large swing in goal difference. We will enjoy the Man City game with the sun on our faces. Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 We will enjoy the Man City game with the sun on our faces. ... for about 10 minutes, then City start to massively swing our goal difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 ... for about 10 minutes, then City start to massively swing our goal difference. That's why I think we should just beat Everton and Swansea then give city a spanking too for the hell of it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 1 May, 2018 Share Posted 1 May, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43960000 - West Ham: Andy Carroll sent home after row with manager David Moyes I wonder how significant the falling out between Moyes and Carroll could be? They have already got a tough run-in - could losing him make it even tougher? If they lose every game they become another team that we could pass with only three more points. On the other hand, these sorts of things can sometimes help nuture a siege mentality in a football club, which could help them secure a couple more points and with it keep them in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 3 May, 2018 Share Posted 3 May, 2018 Big game tonight! An Arsenal win not good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 3 May, 2018 Share Posted 3 May, 2018 1-0 down at the moment. Far from over of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 May, 2018 Share Posted 3 May, 2018 Bloody hell they’re playing well, deserve something Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 3 May, 2018 Share Posted 3 May, 2018 Bloody hell they’re playing well, deserve something Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Why? They’ve created next to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 3 May, 2018 Share Posted 3 May, 2018 Hard luck Arsenal. Now make Wenger proud in his last PL games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 3 May, 2018 Share Posted 3 May, 2018 Arsenal will lose at Huddersfield 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 May, 2018 Share Posted 3 May, 2018 Monreal must have been watching Cedric’s crossing, he must have got in down the side 3 or 4 times and delivered a poor cross. Mind you Godín is some defender. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 3 May, 2018 Share Posted 3 May, 2018 Arsenal will lose at Huddersfield 100% I think they will put in a shift for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 3 May, 2018 Share Posted 3 May, 2018 Good news, but Arsenal's away record is shocking. Huddersfield are really poor though, so Arsenal should beat them really. Anyhow, let's hope we get the wins required to not have to worry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 3 May, 2018 Share Posted 3 May, 2018 I think they will put in a shift for him. And now there's no reason for him to not field his strongest possible 11, in stark contrast if they were to have a Europa cup final 3 days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 Monreal must have been watching Cedric’s crossing, he must have got in down the side 3 or 4 times and delivered a poor cross. Mind you Godín is some defender. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk That was some defensive display by Atletico last night. Godin, as you say was imperious. The organisation and sheer will to defend was so impressive and will probably see them lift the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 And now there's no reason for him to not field his strongest possible 11, in stark contrast if they were to have a Europa cup final 3 days later. He's going to want to go out on a bit of a high note. So, cue a Hudds win. I'm honestly not expecting any favours from the sides we need them from, it's not that kind of season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 He's going to want to go out on a bit of a high note. So, cue a Hudds win. I'm honestly not expecting any favours from the sides we need them from, it's not that kind of season. High note ? Perhaps but he's certainly going to want to go out without leaving a team that would have to go through the qualifying rounds of the Europa. If they beat Burnley the pressure would be less for the other games but if they don't I think they'd have to win both of the others to ensure that they finish 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 He's going to want to go out on a bit of a high note. So, cue a Hudds win. I'm honestly not expecting any favours from the sides we need them from, it's not that kind of season. We would have been down weeks ago if not for the crapness of the other teams at the bottom. If you'd have offered me our current position in the dark days of Pellegrino's reign in March I'd have bitten your hand off. It's because of the crapness of the other teams that we are still in with a shot, and so let's hope they continue to be crap and we can take advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 We would have been down weeks ago if not for the crapness of the other teams at the bottom. If you'd have offered me our current position in the dark days of Pellegrino's reign in March I'd have bitten your hand off. It's because of the crapness of the other teams that we are still in with a shot, and so let's hope they continue to be crap and we can take advantage. And they aren't already down either, because of our crapness. Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 And they aren't already down either, because of our crapness. Etc. The basic difference being that, in the main, the others are poor sides with substandard players for the PL. We should be doing better but aren't. We should not be below Huddersfield or Bournemouth but we are. We have underperformed all season, before Pellegrino was sacked and after. We may still escape relegation but only on goal difference as likely as not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 We would have been down weeks ago if not for the crapness of the other teams at the bottom. If you'd have offered me our current position in the dark days of Pellegrino's reign in March I'd have bitten your hand off. It's because of the crapness of the other teams that we are still in with a shot, and so let's hope they continue to be crap and we can take advantage. We weren't in the bottom 3 and we were still in th FA Cup when Pellegrino was sacked. That's the position, I'd prefer now: above the relegation zone. I'm not saying Pellegrino ws a good manager but I'd certainly prefer the position we were in then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edprice1984 Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 Stoke and WBA HAVE to win at the weekend. WBA could still win and be relegated (if we win at Everton). Personally I think 4 points will be enough, but we want to get the three on the board straight away. The Swansea game is almost a free hit for them because they have the back up of the final day v Stoke. Looking at the fixtures, form etc I think it is between us and Huddersfield. Whoever gets a result on the last day will stay up. Hopefully we will have done the job by then anyway and have 6/6 from the next two - but we all know it doesn't quite work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 How bad are man u tonight? Just our luck Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAndy14 Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 How bad are man u tonight? Just our luck Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Awful, but Brighton won't go down. Still good to keep them in the discussion for relegation though, as the more teams still not completely safe the better to keep the element of doubt about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 And to think, it wasn't that long ago they won at the Etihad. Odd team United are, but it looks like they'll still finish 2nd even though Liverpool have probably played better than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 Man Utd. A bang average side that somehow finish 2nd in the league. Am I right in thinking we are the only side in the bottom half of the table that hasn't beaten a top 6 side for 2 seasons? (Spurs away 2016) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 We weren't in the bottom 3 and we were still in th FA Cup when Pellegrino was sacked. That's the position, I'd prefer now: above the relegation zone. I'm not saying Pellegrino ws a good manager but I'd certainly prefer the position we were in then. We were a point above the bottom 3 mate. What exactly are you saying? We should have stuck with MP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adysaint Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 I think I said similar in another post that the top teams have done us nothing against the s**t and tonight was a direct result of the top 4 being so uncompetitive. Can you imagine Man U playing like that if they'd only been a point behind Man City? Fair play to Brighton I guess - they're one of the worst teams I've seen this season. But they did it when it mattered. Like most of the other dross down there - they annoy me with wins over Arsenal and Man U - but when you actually want them to beat Huddesfield, the lad does a suicidal backpass to gift them a point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 Brighton are a well run club and a good example of a decent manager getting a team out of a group of not very special players. They went for it. So got results, almost all season. Sadly they’re way above us in most respects, not least in spirit Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 4 May, 2018 Share Posted 4 May, 2018 Brighton are a well run club and a good example of a decent manager getting a team out of a group of not very special players. They went for it. So got results, almost all season. Sadly they’re way above us in most respects, not least in spirit Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Like most of our rivals, they've got better players than we have in key positions: Lewis Dunk is better than any of our central defenders, Pascal Groß creates more goals than any of our midfielders and Glenn Murray scores more goals than any of our strikers. Considering all the money we have splashed out on players like Hoedt, Boufal and Carrillo, it shows just how damaging our poor recruitment has been in the last couple of years when the teams around us have bought much better players for less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 5 May, 2018 Share Posted 5 May, 2018 Like most of our rivals, they've got better players than we have in key positions: Lewis Dunk is better than any of our central defenders, Pascal Groß creates more goals than any of our midfielders and Glenn Murray scores more goals than any of our strikers. Considering all the money we have splashed out on players like Hoedt, Boufal and Carrillo, it shows just how damaging our poor recruitment has been in the last couple of years when the teams around us have bought much better players for less. Complete and Utter Tosh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 5 May, 2018 Share Posted 5 May, 2018 Complete and Utter Tosh! Not really. Would prefer Dunk, and Duffy for that matter, than any of our CB's. Murray would be a useful option and would much rather have him than that fella we bought for £19m who doesn't score goals, and lately doesn't even make it onto the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 5 May, 2018 Share Posted 5 May, 2018 Stoke, Swansea and West Ham treble is just under 30/1. Value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 May, 2018 Share Posted 5 May, 2018 Stoke, Swansea and West Ham treble is just under 30/1. Value But wouldn't any relegation bet without West Brom in it just be a gift to the bookies? West Brom can't catch West Ham so there is no sense in pretending otherwise, even by the crookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 5 May, 2018 Share Posted 5 May, 2018 But wouldn't any relegation bet without West Brom in it just be a gift to the bookies? West Brom can't catch West Ham so there is no sense in pretending otherwise, even by the crookies. By treble I meant win their respective games today against Palace, Bournemouth and Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 May, 2018 Share Posted 5 May, 2018 By treble I meant win their respective games today against Palace, Bournemouth and Leicester. Oh right, silly me, relegation fixation has set in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 5 May, 2018 Share Posted 5 May, 2018 Like most of our rivals, they've got better players than we have in key positions: Lewis Dunk is better than any of our central defenders, Pascal Groß creates more goals than any of our midfielders and Glenn Murray scores more goals than any of our strikers. Considering all the money we have splashed out on players like Hoedt, Boufal and Carrillo, it shows just how damaging our poor recruitment has been in the last couple of years when the teams around us have bought much better players for less. No sane person could put up an factual argument that would totally destroy Nordics post. As for the "Complete and Utter Tosh" reply ---well just look at who posted that.:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 May, 2018 Share Posted 5 May, 2018 Get in, Palace Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 May, 2018 Share Posted 5 May, 2018 Swansea will beat Stoke, may even get a result against Bompey (but probably not). So we need to go for two wins to really stand a chance. Can’t see us getting more than a point today and probably nothing. I still think there’s more chance of us going down than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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