a1ex2001 Posted 22 February, 2018 Posted 22 February, 2018 Who? Because a decent season in the Championship sees strikers valued at £15m+. All of whom are probably better than this fella he didn't even score goals in the sub championship standard argentine league!
CylonKing Posted 22 February, 2018 Posted 22 February, 2018 I have seen him play live twice now (once as a sub) against West Brom, so not the best benchmark, but from what I have seen I think he has been a decent buy. He has won a lot of headers from balls pumped forward, the main problem being that he is so isolated and no one is willing to take a chance on running onto a flick on that the ball usually goes to an opposition player. Last Saturday he flicked a brilliant ball on from a goal kick between 2 defenders but the 'supporting' player didn't move. Any kind of run towards the ball would've resulted in a chance. He has also got into goal scoring positions and either been unlucky in that the opposition have got a last ditch deflection or our ball into the box has not been good enough. When he has had a chance, it has been on target and forced a good save from the keeper. His movement is very intelligent and he is a handful for defenders. In the box, he looks very dangerous to me and I can see him getting a few poacher type goals in the next few matches. He also has good vision, as proven by the good assist for Tadic, who very nearly fluffed up the chance as the ball bounced off his foot and onto his knee but luckily he managed to retrieve the ball and score a good goal. I personally think Guido will be like Pelle for us and will be a good signing, from what I've seen so far.
stu0x Posted 22 February, 2018 Posted 22 February, 2018 I wouldn’t take your opinions from a podcast if I was you, Gab Marcotti predicted Lamina would be a flop on The Game podcast. Why don’t you give us your opinions. From what you’ve seen so far what makes you think he’ll be a flop. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkTo be fair, Marcotti is a professional contrarian, his prevailing trait seems to be to say something controversial and then respond extremely aggressively to any counter argument. It's a bit like reading some of the threads on here, becomes tiring to listen to very quickly, and the main reason I stopped listening to The Game a few years back. Whereas Phillipe Auclair and Julien Laurent generally come across as knowledgeable, balanced and non-partisan. For the record I think he'll be a 'flop' (and by that I mean he'll have an average to poor goalscoring record here and we'll end up losing money when he moves to an inferior league towards or at the end of his contract). It won't entirely be his fault though. He has limited but distinct strengths but we do nothing to maximise them. A good coach would be able to get a good (although not overwhelming) rate of goals out of him. A good manager would be able to build a team that gets him the chances to get the goals. Unfortunately it seems Pellegrino is both a poor coach and a poor manager, so I don't see Carillo - or any other player, or the team overall - reaching anywhere near their potential. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Edmonton Saint Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 6 games without a goal. You'd think spending £19 million on a player would improve the team instantly. This guy doesn't cut the mustard for me.
hypochondriac Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 I think 6 games is enough to make a preliminary judgement. He's crap.
simo Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 2 assists in 2 games , Get someone up playing with him to get the best out of him imo!
Matthew Le God Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 6 games without a goal. You'd think spending £19 million on a player would improve the team instantly. This guy doesn't cut the mustard for me. 2 assists in his last 2 games and a lot of good hold up play.
saintwbu Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 Said when he came that I couldn’t give a flying **** if he didn’t score a single goal for us, if it meant he brought goals out of others instead. So far looks like he might have that ability, but he’s not gonna do it up front on his ****ing own you useless **** Pellegrino
S-Clarke Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 Get players close to him and don't leave him isolated. But we are doing the same as we have done with the other players, leaving him to do it all himself. I must admit I expected him to be a little more dominant in the air though.
shirleysfc Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 I don’t think he’s worth £20m but I don’t think he’s helped by our team selection or tactics either. He came in to the game more. with Sims linking up with him. Decent head back for the assist.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 How many good chances has he been missing?
saintwbu Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 He also did really well to create Sims’ brilliant shot that drew an unbelievable save
Dusic Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 How many good chances has he been missing?How many good chances has he made for himself through good movement?
Saint Fan CaM Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 Watched him off ball when we were in attack...his movement is poor, but then after 6 games with rubbish delivery he’s probably given up or at least become confused about how to affect the game. We have three strikers...all have exhibited the same goal drought...that is clear indicator that it’s a managerial and tactical problem.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 How many good chances has he made for himself through good movement? He's still reliant on someone getting him the ball though. You can't make chances just by good movement??
Saint Albert Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 It’ll never happen because Pellegrino’s not very good at managing teams, but I’d like to see how Carrillo and Gabbiadini do in a two up front formation. Carrillo did well to set up Gabbiadini today.
Chez Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 We have three strikers...all have exhibited the same goal drought...that is clear indicator that it’s a managerial and tactical problem.and maybe a problem of not having very good attacking midfielders to supply him?
derry Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 Good assists for vital goals on successive weeks he needs Sims and Gabbiadini to play off him.
Saint Albert Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 Good assists for vital goals on successive weeks he needs Sims and Gabbiadini to play off him. Yes please.
davefizzy14 Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 Good assists for vital goals on successive weeks he needs Sims and Gabbiadini to play off him. Yes please!
Pamplemousse Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 The service into him was crap all game, the only decent cross came from Sims and we scored from it.
Toon Saint Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 I wasn't expecting miracles from him and he's been feeding off of scraps. Given that Pellegrino clearly pushed for the signing of an ex-player it's kind of galling that he doesn't appear to have any idea how to set the team up to get the best out of him. Despite the clueless approach of the manager, two assists in two games is a fair return - hopefully the likes of Boufal, Sims, and Gabbiadini get more game time alongside him.
shurlock Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 The service into him was crap all game, the only decent cross came from Sims and we scored from it. It wasn’t even a particularly good cross. Well played by Carrillo to kill the pace from the ball and direct it back across goal.
CWD Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 The guy is crying out for someone to play alongside. How on earth can Pellegrino not see this?
Wade Garrett Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 The guy is crying out for someone to play alongside. How on earth can Pellegrino not see this? Do you really need to ask? I swear if he had Le Tiss he would have used him like Branfoot did.
sadoldgit Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 The guy is crying out for someone to play alongside. How on earth can Pellegrino not see this? He might be aware of it but he clearly doesn’t like starting games with 2 up front.
Lighthouse Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 If Lukaku can look useless when isolated by a static midfield who wont get within 30 yards and fail to run beyond, then I don't see why people would expect differently of Carrillo. Gabbi has been crying out for someone to play off, Carrillo is crying out for someone to play off him... Hey, lets play Long and Redmond!
Jonnyboy Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 Looks alright to me. Strong enough and some tidy touches.
Dark Munster Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 If Lukaku can look useless when isolated by a static midfield who wont get within 30 yards and fail to run beyond, then I don't see why people would expect differently of Carrillo. Gabbi has been crying out for someone to play off, Carrillo is crying out for someone to play off him... Hey, lets play Long and Redmond! With Redmond on the left. So of course that frees up the right for Tadic!
Saint Garrett Posted 24 February, 2018 Posted 24 February, 2018 Not very good but has improved us. He’s not a goal scorer though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
striker Posted 25 February, 2018 Posted 25 February, 2018 I don't think he really does much, definitely not a game changer. Austin continues to be the only really scoring threat we have. When he's not there the defense doesn't have much to worry about.
sammysaint Posted 25 February, 2018 Posted 25 February, 2018 Rather have Austin when fit or Gabba for certain games but deffo someone who can help with assists and hold up play, would like him as 3rd choice striker.
a1ex2001 Posted 25 February, 2018 Posted 25 February, 2018 Wasn't he supposed to score a goal every 90 minutes of playing time or something? All this talk of bringing the best out of other players reminds me of Emile Heskey the most notorious of none goal scoring strikers!
Nordic Saint Posted 25 February, 2018 Posted 25 February, 2018 I predict Carrillo will score 4 goals a season at this level. He is what he is. I also predict that when he scores his first goal, the Reedites on here will hail him as a cross between Ronaldo and Messi. He is never going to be a prolific goal scorer, no matter how many other forwards he has supporting him. If he scores the goal that keeps us up, I will be happy. If he emulates Bobby Stokes and scores the winning goal in the cup final then he'll have been a brilliant signing even if he never scores again.
Saint86 Posted 25 February, 2018 Posted 25 February, 2018 I actually think he is good after watching the first few games. Most of our key goal-scoring chances have been due to him and he is actually quite a good creator given how few chances we create. Looked good with two pacey wide men (that run with the ball) and someone playing off him.
wild-saint Posted 25 February, 2018 Posted 25 February, 2018 I actually think he is good after watching the first few games. Most of our key goal-scoring chances have been due to him and he is actually quite a good creator given how few chances we create. Looked good with two pacey wide men (that run with the ball) and someone playing off him. Is it 1 defeat in 6 since he has started. Decent Runa of form
Roo1976 Posted 25 February, 2018 Posted 25 February, 2018 Not very good but has improved us. He’s not a goal scorer though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro not very good but has improved us .....lol.HOW?
5string Posted 25 February, 2018 Posted 25 February, 2018 Doesn't score many, does he? It seems he's a supporting striker, someone the 'proper' goalscorers (Gabbi, Austin, Obafemi) can feed off - a Toshack who needs a Keegan. He'll score from heading in crosses, or when the opposition defence have switched off and forgotten about him.
ally_uk Posted 25 February, 2018 Posted 25 February, 2018 Give him a chance you boys sound like a bunch of wet tarts in a brothel........ He will come good needs support play him and Gabba up top for the stoke game.....
GarrettIvo Posted 26 February, 2018 Posted 26 February, 2018 Give him a chance you boys sound like a bunch of wet tarts in a brothel........ He will come good needs support play him and Gabba up top for the stoke game..... This is the thing though. I think he has come good. As good as he's going to be. Which for us in this situation was never going to be enough. That's not his fault. Can't blame him for wanting to up his pay packet and I have no issues with his efforts on the pitch. And I'll keep wishing him well and hoping he can bang some goals in at some point, knowing it's statistically unlikely. But whatever it was we needed to buy in January, he's not it.
Pilchards Posted 26 February, 2018 Posted 26 February, 2018 Prolific in scoring fu ck all for us. Pellegrino’s judgement in wanting him is the same as his management skills on the pitch. B o l l o x s
Edmonton Saint Posted 26 February, 2018 Posted 26 February, 2018 This is the thing though. I think he has come good. As good as he's going to be. Which for us in this situation was never going to be enough. That's not his fault. Can't blame him for wanting to up his pay packet and I have no issues with his efforts on the pitch. And I'll keep wishing him well and hoping he can bang some goals in at some point, knowing it's statistically unlikely. But whatever it was we needed to buy in January, he's not it. Well said.
SKD Posted 26 February, 2018 Posted 26 February, 2018 He is by no means prolific, but I'm not sure anyone expect him to be but if you can't see what he has added / improved to our play then you are deluded. He needs someone to play off him, if that's Gabbi, Redmond or Boufal in the '10' I don't care. He'd also benefit from some pace from either flank cutting inside (think Mane off Pelle), hopefully Sims can provide this. He's probably about our level, Austin is still are best CF, by a long way.
Useful Idiot Posted 3 March, 2018 Posted 3 March, 2018 Originally, from his highlights videos I thought he was a box striker like Austin. He's not. He's not really able to win many high balls, doesn't really hold the ball up, isn't very fast, and never seems to be in position to have a shot. I don't hate him as a player, I'm just unsure what he's actually good at.
Edmonton Saint Posted 3 March, 2018 Posted 3 March, 2018 7 games no goals. What ever we needed in January, this guy wasn't it.
Greenridge Posted 3 March, 2018 Posted 3 March, 2018 Fortunately my expectation levels were very low anyway.
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