SuperSAINT Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 (edited) Double Carrillo update today. This time linked with a swap deal for Mady Camara (22 year old Defensive midfielder, linked with Newcastle & Watford recently). Speculative at best. According to a claim in the Greek media, Olympiacos are interested in signing Southampton striker Guido Carillo, which could see their midfielder Mady Camara heading the other way. It’s been reported by Sdna.Gr Southampton were following Camara throughout last season and will continue to watch him during the upcoming African Cup of Nations. There have been no reports if the Premier League side are lining up an offer for the Guinea international. Camara has previously been linked with a move to fellow Premier League side Watford after reports he’s seen as a possible successor to Abdoulaye Doucoure. Sdna.Gr also say Olympicaos are interested in signing Carillo from Southampton on a loan deal. The Argentine spent last season on loan with La Liga side Leganes, under former Saints manager Mauricio Pellegrino. They want him back on loan, and there’s interest elsewhere in Spain as well as at Boca Juniors. Should Southampton interest in Camara be strong then it’s a good way to solve the Carrillo problem, if he’d agree to a move to Greece. Source: http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-looking-sign-midfielder-forward-go-way/ Edited 14 June, 2019 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Complete joke of a transfer, such a waste of funds. And the death knell for Dr Bunsen Honeydew too.... The whole thing was a shambles from start to finish. The worst thing we have done in my living memory.. Even Ali Dia did not cost us much, but this lunatic decision is our record transfer FFS.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Yeh I think it was the transfer that sealed Les' fate, to sign such an average at best striker as a record transfer is just gross incompetence, if the guy was 22 maybe you could argue there was some potential there but he was basically at his peak and proven to be mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 (edited) Yeh I think it was the transfer that sealed Les' fate, to sign such an average at best striker as a record transfer is just gross incompetence, if the guy was 22 maybe you could argue there was some potential there but he was basically at his peak and proven to be mediocre. Should of culled WW Wilson too. How the **** is he still here, and been promoted!! W.T.F Edited 14 June, 2019 by SOTONS EAST SIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 The worst transfer i can remember in my lifetime, and i'm old enough to remember Dixon and Speedie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Let's not forget swapping Bales add ons and sell on % for Tommy Forecast. Still gives me nightmares. Good lord... I’d banished that one years ago until you just mentioned it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Vegard Forren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Vegard Forren Safir Taider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Safir Taider Lee Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Safir Taider It was a loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Let's not forget swapping Bales add ons and sell on % for Tommy Forecast. Still gives me nightmares. That was slightly out of our hands though, we needed the cash to stave off admin (which happened anyway in the end) and Levy f*cked us hard and without lube because we couldn't say no. Also lets not forget Redknapp almost sold him to Birmingham in his first season there, and if he had no one would even be talking about it. Lee Todd Lee Todd was god awful, the worst player i've ever seen wear our shirt by some distance, but at least he played some games (badly, very, very badly), didn't cost that much and wasn't a replacement for Alan Shearer. Nor did Dave Jones say he'd score more goals in a season than Shearer would in the rest of his career, like Ian F*cking Branfoot did about Dixon and Speedie Vegard Forren Yeah that was an odd one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Anthony Pulis was way overpriced as a free transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 He was cheap and worth a risk. Wasn't he half the price of Gardos? Awful signings are the ones that stop you having money for anyone else. Carrillo showed that we weren't tight, we were just incompetent. Panic signing a striker to save Pellegrino's job is the most ridiculous decision I've seen. You’re right. Carrillo really was a terrible signing & trumps all others. Massive chunk of the VvD cash gone straight away for a manager who was sacked soon after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Carrillo was/is terrible. Absolutely NOTHING about him suggested he would be anything other than an abject failure of a signing. It was quite weird when a few on here flipped his games/goals stats around to claim he had a good scoring record. I remember CB Fry having fun with that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 You’re right. Carrillo really was a terrible signing & trumps all others. Massive chunk of the VvD cash gone straight away for a manager who was sacked soon after. Giving the manager the money was a big mistake. Its not even hindsight saying that. We all saw MP was struggling, and we all saw GC's stats. Monaco took our pants down on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Giving the manager the money was a big mistake. Its not even hindsight saying that. We all saw MP was struggling, and we all saw GC's stats. Monaco took our pants down on that one. Buying players in Jan is pretty much a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Jesus we've made made some fekin clangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Jesus we've made made some fekin clangers. Show me a club that hasn’t but yes In this case it was obvious from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Carrillo was/is terrible. Absolutely NOTHING about him suggested he would be anything other than an abject failure of a signing. It was quite weird when a few on here flipped his games/goals stats around to claim he had a good scoring record. I remember CB Fry having fun with that oneGoal every other game mate. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 He was cheap and worth a risk. Wasn't he half the price of Gardos? Awful signings are the ones that stop you having money for anyone else. Carrillo showed that we weren't tight, we were just incompetent. Panic signing a striker to save Pellegrino's job is the most ridiculous decision I've seen. I'm with you. 15 goals in 65 appearances at Monaco. What on earth made the club think he was worth spending £19m on? Absolute ****ing madness. Monaco didn't even really want him. Loan with view to buy...simples. Woeful negotiating, woeful decision making, woeful management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 I'm with you. 15 goals in 65 appearances at Monaco. What on earth made the club think he was worth spending £19m on? Absolute ****ing madness. Monaco didn't even really want him. Loan with view to buy...simples. Woeful negotiating, woeful decision making, woeful management. I recall most of his goals were in cup as well against lower sides, im sure he got 3 or 4 in 1 game just b4 we signed him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Let's not forget swapping Bales add ons and sell on % for Tommy Forecast. Still gives me nightmares. I’m pretty sure there was also money involved in that which stopped us from going into admin for a few more months. It’s easy to criticise in hindsight but I think Lowe was just doing whatever it took to keep the club afloat. It’s not as if we were desperate for a keeper, he was just a makeweight. To think we used to believe Gaston was a poor signing when he cost £12m and ‘only’ got about 6 goals in his first season. He’d get our golden boot these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 14 June, 2019 Share Posted 14 June, 2019 What about this DM in exchange? Any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 15 June, 2019 Share Posted 15 June, 2019 We were desperate and it showed. We thought he'd be a Pelle but evidently not. I'm still convinced that with a better manager than Pellegrino (the worst Premier League manager we've ever had) he can be a useful player for us. But I wouldn't blame us if we decided to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 June, 2019 Share Posted 15 June, 2019 What about this DM in exchange? Any good? There’s almost no chance of us swapping him for a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 15 June, 2019 Share Posted 15 June, 2019 Lee Todd was god awful, the worst player i've ever seen wear our shirt by some distance, but at least he played some games (badly, very, very badly), didn't cost that much and wasn't a replacement for Alan Shearer. My friend, you obviously never saw Mr.Fifty Pence Head Calum Davenport play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 15 June, 2019 Share Posted 15 June, 2019 Or the talented Stuart Ripley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 15 June, 2019 Share Posted 15 June, 2019 Or the talented Stuart Ripley. While we’re on stupendously ****e wingers - Neil McCann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 15 June, 2019 Share Posted 15 June, 2019 There’s almost no chance of us swapping him for a good player. How about for a poor player? That would be an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 15 June, 2019 Share Posted 15 June, 2019 We were desperate and it showed. We thought he'd be a Pelle but evidently not. I'm still convinced that with a better manager than Pellegrino (the worst Premier League manager we've ever had) he can be a useful player for us. But I wouldn't blame us if we decided to sell. Why are you convinced about that? He looked awful when he played for us, his career prior to us basically said he would flop here. One of the worst signings the Premier League has ever seen for the money we spent on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 15 June, 2019 Share Posted 15 June, 2019 I'll never forget being at Wigan for his 'performance' up there in the cup. We should have made him walk home after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 My friend, you obviously never saw Mr.Fifty Pence Head Calum Davenport play. I've been going since 84, had a season ticket since the mid 90s and do in the region of 15-18 aways a season. I saw Davenport, you clearly didn't see Todd. He's the only player i've ever seen another professional footballer take pity on during a game. Away to Arsenal Henry skinned him so many times, and made him look so bad, he actually apologised to him. The guy is hands down the worst player Saints have ever had in my lifetime (and i was there the day of the Ali Dia game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 I've been going since 84, had a season ticket since the mid 90s and do in the region of 15-18 aways a season. I saw Davenport, you clearly didn't see Todd. He's the only player i've ever seen another professional footballer take pity on during a game. Away to Arsenal Henry skinned him so many times, and made him look so bad, he actually apologised to him. The guy is hands down the worst player Saints have ever had in my lifetime (and i was there the day of the Ali Dia game) Anthony Pulis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 Except Todd's career with saints ended in 98 and a henry joined arsenal in 99... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 Except Todd's career with saints ended in 98 and a henry joined arsenal in 99... It was pre Henry, it was Bergamp and Overmars days. Lee Todd was definitely out of his depth that day. We lost 3 nil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 I'll never forget being at Wigan for his 'performance' up there in the cup. We should have made him walk home after that.It wasn't worse than Austin away at Fulham though. He should never have played for us again after that. Absolutely disgraceful lack of effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 It wasn't worse than Austin away at Fulham though. He should never have played for us again after that. Absolutely disgraceful lack of effort. Fair point. Those 45 minutes from fat chaz do take some beating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 It was pre Henry, it was Bergamp and Overmars days. Lee Todd was definitely out of his depth that day. We lost 3 nil. Yeah that was the day, memory obviously isn't what it was as i thought it was Henry so it must've been another player, but remember him being literally being apologised too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charminster Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 Yeah that was the day, memory obviously isn't what it was as i thought it was Henry so it must've been another player, but remember him being literally being apologised too. Was it Marco Almeida, who played for us very briefly at CB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 Was it Marco Almeida, who played for us very briefly at CB? Yes, late 90s. He was awful, not Lee Todd awful but pretty bad. The worst centre back I’ve ever seen at saints was a player most wont remember called Scott Mashall. Dave Jones signed him from arsenal for about £500k, he was considered a bit of a coup. He played two games for us we conceded 9 goals in those games, he scored two own goals and I don’t think he ever played for us again, he made Steven Caulker look like Bobby Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 I’d rather have Carillo than Sam G Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charminster Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 Yes, late 90s. He was awful, not Lee Todd awful but pretty bad. The worst centre back I’ve ever seen at saints was a player most wont remember called Scott Mashall. Dave Jones signed him from arsenal for about £500k, he was considered a bit of a coup. He played two games for us we conceded 9 goals in those games, he scored two own goals and I don’t think he ever played for us again, he made Steven Caulker look like Bobby Moore. He was horrifically bad, another injury prone signing from Arsenal. He was just ****, but we see, to have along line of crap CB’#! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 17 June, 2019 Share Posted 17 June, 2019 Bloody hell this thread is giving me the shudders. Lee Todd, Scott Marshall, Almeida. We are only missing Ollie Lancashire Lee Todd is the one I remember most. Can’t remember who we were playing but his first match at The Dell saw his opponent just chip the ball over his head every time he got it and just ran past him. He was without doubt abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 17 June, 2019 Share Posted 17 June, 2019 Bloody hell this thread is giving me the shudders. Lee Todd, Scott Marshall, Almeida. We are only missing Ollie Lancashire Lee Todd is the one I remember most. Can’t remember who we were playing but his first match at The Dell saw his opponent just chip the ball over his head every time he got it and just ran past him. He was without doubt abysmal. Could be wrong but if memory serves it was v Bolton. The ‘chipping over his head’ issue still haunts my dreams to this day. Some wag in the Milton kept shouting to the subs who were warming up to ‘get Todd a f.ucking stepladder!’ every time it happened!! Awful signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 17 June, 2019 Share Posted 17 June, 2019 I believe Lee Todd was pictured standing on a step ladder next to Paul Jones as part of our PR when we signed them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 17 June, 2019 Share Posted 17 June, 2019 Interestingly, we had a negative net spend on transfer that season. We spent net 2.4m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 17 June, 2019 Share Posted 17 June, 2019 I'd rather have Cosimo Sarli and a strawberry nesquilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 June, 2019 Share Posted 19 June, 2019 No sh*t. https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17713110.southampton-would-prefer-to-sell-guido-carrillo-rather-than-loan-the-striker-out-again/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 June, 2019 Share Posted 19 June, 2019 I can't be the only one who, when this thread has a new post, is hoping that this might have been resolved, and am sorely disappointed that it never is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 19 June, 2019 Share Posted 19 June, 2019 Bloody hell this thread is giving me the shudders. Lee Todd, Scott Marshall, Almeida. We are only missing Ollie Lancashire Lee Todd is the one I remember most. Can’t remember who we were playing but his first match at The Dell saw his opponent just chip the ball over his head every time he got it and just ran past him. He was without doubt abysmal. I remember Richard Dryden and the 5-0 horror show at Newcastle, in January 2000. A promising start in 96/97 quickly degenerated into anonymity with loans to third division teams and his only and final appearance being the 5-0 loss in the 99/00 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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