St Chalet Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 So if you were Les or Ralph, what would you do in respect of the manager? Hopefully the club take notice of the poll.
S-Clarke Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 I'd look to see if we could avoid paying him off and actually terminate his employment for gross incompetence and potential forgery, as he's clearly not a manager and has fooled us. But if I was either of those guys, I’d have made the call months ago. Admit defeat, admit that we got ahead of our station and actually start repairing the damage in the January transfer window. We did none of that. We just kept the fraud in place and signed his overpriced mate. The situation is beyond parody now.
Matthew Le God Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 First 100% result pole on here ever? Hard to see why any Saints fan wouldn't vote 'sack him'. But it is unlikely to be 100%, as any poll can easily be skewed by Skates and/or trolls.
Bridge Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 He has to go...cannot see him improving. Its unreal what's happening.
S-Clarke Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 I always thought Nordic Saint was a troll.
Wrensup Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 I always thought Nordic Saint was a troll. If hes banned does it void their vote? *fingerscrossed*
Matthew Le God Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 I always thought Nordic Saint was a troll. Looks like Nordic Saint is unaware we can all see who voted for each option!
badgerx16 Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 If it was down to me, as either of those two, he would have gone after the Leicester game. Unfortunately the 'real' Ralph and Les have backed themselves into a corner, and I suspect that Mr Gao is going to have to be the one to pull the trigger.
Wrensup Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 So thats Les, Ralph, Pellimongo, any others on the site then or?
saint1977 Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 If it was down to me, as either of those two, he would have gone after the Leicester game. Unfortunately the 'real' Ralph and Les have backed themselves into a corner, and I suspect that Mr Gao is going to have to be the one to pull the trigger. I don’t think any of them are bothered, those juicy parachute payments and player sales are looming.
St Chalet Posted 12 February, 2018 Author Posted 12 February, 2018 Remember guys, it’s a forum of opinions. People have reasons for voting.
badgerx16 Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 I don’t think any of them are bothered, those juicy parachute payments and player sales are looming. Hopefully we haven't got our own version of the Oystons.
Wrensup Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 Remember guys, it’s a forum of opinions. People have reasons for voting. That said, I would genuinely like to here off the yes voters to understand their reasoning.
Saint Albert Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 It is absolutely bat**** crazy that this man is still employed as a football manager.
Matthew Le God Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 I don’t think any of them are bothered, those juicy parachute payments and player sales are looming. The parachute payments are not remotely "juicy", the club will have a significant drop in income if relegated. It is a financial disaster to go down and they are far better off appointing someone competent and staying up.
St Chalet Posted 12 February, 2018 Author Posted 12 February, 2018 That said, I would genuinely like to here off the yes voters to understand their reasoning. Agreed.
Suhari Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 He should have gone many weeks ago. I would have far more respect for the board if they held their hands up over making a recruitment mistake, and appointed someone to keep us up.
Katalinic Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 I genuinely can't think of one reason to keep him, not one. There have not been any positives since his appointment.
OttawaSaint Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 K Billy was about to hit "sack" but Les walked into the room.
davefizzy14 Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 Has to go in my opinion. Any ITKers with any inside information?
saint1977 Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 The parachute payments are not remotely "juicy", the club will have a significant drop in income if relegated. It is a financial disaster to go down and they are far better off appointing someone competent and staying up. If the club were seemingly bought for football reasons I’d agree with you. I do recall readily Lowe’s worries post relegation of where the next £ was coming from and that’s when we still had a strong academy and we still got 23 or 24k gates. I’m trying to rationalise the mad decision making and getting a large lump of Sterling capital is the one potential motivation I can come up with. Otherwise, why borrow £200m for an asset to destroy it, or let Les and Ralph do so? If they wanted to stay up, Les would have needed several signings with pace and power and we had the money t9 so it.
Sevvy Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 I voted sack, I have had enough of this torrid football.
Guan 2.0 Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 K Billy was about to hit "sack" but Les walked into the room. I think K billy was trolling, he told me about the poll!
thorpie the sinner Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 Just please do it now! No way MP gets anything away at Burnley
OttawaSaint Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 I think K billy was trolling, he told me about the poll! You probably broke your mouse with the intensity of your clicking of "sack".
richardc Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 That said, I would genuinely like to here off the yes voters to understand their reasoning. Cast your mind back a few months and look what happened when we sacked the last incompetent manager. I am sure Uncle Les COULD find someone even worst
danjosaint Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 He should have gone many weeks ago. I would have far more respect for the board if they held their hands up over making a recruitment mistake, and appointed someone to keep us up. Like what the Leeds owner has done, he's come out and said sorry to the fans for making Thomas Christianson boss, admitting it was all his fault and felt the job was a bit to big for Thomas, how refreshing would it be for les/ralph to do the same
Wrensup Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 (edited) Cast your mind back a few months and look what happened when we sacked the last incompetent manager. I am sure Uncle Les COULD find someone even worst So you’re scared that the next manager could be even worse.... How do you ever cross the road! Edited 12 February, 2018 by Wrensup
Morse Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 We need to sack Reed too. It is Reed who has overseen the selling of three centre halves without replacing them. It's Reed who gambled on Austin being fit al season for our goals. It's reed who appointed MP. Reed needs to go.
Matthew Le God Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 We need to sack Reed too. It is Reed who has overseen the selling of three centre halves without replacing them. It's Reed who gambled on Austin being fit al season for our goals. It's reed who appointed MP. Reed needs to go. Who are the three? van Dijk, Fonte and...? Plus why don't you count Hoedt as a replacement for at least one of them?
Nordic Saint Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 There is no point sacking him unless Les Reed is sacked first because you know he will find an even worse one. It will simply be a case of out of the frying pan into the fire again. We thought it would be great to get rid of Eric Black, who was a terrible first team coach, but then Reed found an even worse one in Kelvin Davis, one of the worst goalkeepers in Premier League history, with no previous coaching experience. The poll we need again is the Les Reed Out one.
Matthew Le God Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 There is no point sacking him unless Les Reed is sacked first because you know he will find an even worse one. It will simply be a case of out of the frying pan into the fire again. Reed also appointed Ronald Koeman... do you give him any credit for that? We thought it would be great to get rid of Eric Black, who was a terrible first team coach, but then Reed found an even worse one in Kelvin Davis, one of the worst goalkeepers in Premier League history, with no previous coaching experience. Did we? What evidence do you have Eric Black isn't a good coach? How the teams he was at do under other managers whilst Black was a coach doesn't mean by default he is a bad coach.
Saint Billy Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 Easy, get rid asap. I haven’t a clue who could replace him or who would want to but hopefully the new manager syndrome could get us a few more points than he is likely to.
PaulSaint Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 Sack MP immediately. Ring Silva. Now we have the fans behind the team and a "chance"?
Greenridge Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 Who are the three? van Dijk, Fonte and...? Plus why don't you count Hoedt as a replacement for at least one of them? Lovren (+ the Toby CF)
Dark Munster Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 There is no point sacking him unless Les Reed is sacked first because you know he will find an even worse one. It will simply be a case of out of the frying pan into the fire again. We thought it would be great to get rid of Eric Black, who was a terrible first team coach, but then Reed found an even worse one in Kelvin Davis, one of the worst goalkeepers in Premier League history, with no previous coaching experience. The poll we need again is the Les Reed Out one. Where do you come up with that conclusion? a) Reed appointed two decent managers prior to this clown, b) it would take an incredible amount of work to find someone as bad, let alone worse, than the current clown, and c) Reed presumably won't make the same mistake of looking for a Pochettino clone who's Argentinian, from the lower part of La Liga, and with the same first name, initials, age and quality of hair.
Ultimatt Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 He's under performed for sure and would be rightfully sacked. I also don't think his replacement will be any better with Les only picking unemployed managers, combined with our squad being so weak. Reed and co are the real problem that got us into this mess and either need to change their ways or change employers.
brmbrm Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 While I voted to sack, my concern would be getting a decent replacement. I would back him in public, sound out alternatives, then sack if there was something promising. No good just sacking for sackings sake with no plan of what to do
Matthew Le God Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 He's under performed for sure and would be rightfully sacked. I also don't think his replacement will be any better with Les only picking unemployed managers, combined with our squad being so weak. Reed and co are the real problem that got us into this mess and either need to change their ways or change employers. Is it? I'd rather have our squad than most of the bottom half teams, it is the manager that is costing us.
Matthew Le God Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 (edited) Lovren (+ the Toby CF) He said they weren't all replaced. But they clearly were. Lovren was replaced by Alderweireld on loan, Alderweireld was replaced by van Dijk and van Dijk was replaced by Hoedt. The only one who arguably hasn't been replaced is Fonte. I'd say Stephens isn't at the level Fonte was at his peak, but he is currently better than Fonte as things stand today. Edited 12 February, 2018 by Matthew Le God
Matthew Le God Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 Get Strachan in NOW Why? Strachan has been out of club management for a long time! - His last club job was 7 years ago ... which he failed in - His last top flight job in a major league was 14 years ago! (us) Really wouldn't be a good idea to go back to him.
beatlesaint Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 Who the hell are the 10 people that have voted to back him ? Have you been living in a ****ing cave ?
hypochondriac Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 Who the hell are the 10 people that have voted to back him ? Have you been living in a ****ing cave ?Skates or WUMs
davefoggy Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 Why? Strachan has been out of club management for a long time! - His last club job was 7 years ago ... which he failed in - His last top flight job in a major league was 14 years ago! (us) Really wouldn't be a good idea to go back to him. He would still be better than our current manager. Correction: I would do a better job than our current manager
Dangermouth Posted 12 February, 2018 Posted 12 February, 2018 Voted sack him again. Hope I won't have to vote again as he'll be gone.
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