doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 ....and the goal scorers for Saints are? Well he is talking about dropping two players with a combined total of one goal between them ( bit harsh on Guido I know) for two players with a combined total of one goal between them so I'm not sure it makes that much difference.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 (edited) Well he is talking about dropping two players with a combined total of one goal between them ( bit harsh on Guido I know) for two players with a combined total of one goal between them so I'm not sure it makes that much difference..Guido is our record signing and a striker. presumably brought in because our fit strikers are terrible goal scorers in our current set up why on earth wouldn't he play in a big game? Edited 9 February, 2018 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 ....and the goal scorers for Saints are? Lovren and VvD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Guido is our record signing and a striker. presumably brought in because our fit strikers are terrible goal scorers in our current set up why on earth wouldn't he play in a big game? Because he isn't very quick and the lower PL league sides do better when they sit deep and play on the counter. Which is a better fit for Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Guido is our record signing and a striker. presumably brought in because our fit strikers are terrible goal scorers in our current set up why on earth wouldn't he play in a big game? Guido is a different type of striker to Long. The tactics of opponents differ from game-to-game, ergo you play the type of striker that works best against those tactics. Yes, I know that such 'logic' has to be balanced against the goalscoring form of said strikers, but surely applying tactical logic to striker selection is more sensible than playing the same type of striker game in, game out for the sake of it, just because they happen to cost more than the other available strikers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Because he isn't very quick and the lower PL league sides do better when they sit deep and play on the counter. Which is a better fit for Long.do you think Guido will be dropped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 do you think Guido will be dropped? If it was up to me for this game yes. If we try to go toe to toe with Liverpool and play a high line with full backs pressed high Mane and Salah will **** us up. I'd play Romeu, Hoj and Lemina with Long up top for this one and drop Boufal and Gudio. Just because you are a record signing doesn't mean you become an automatic starter if the game doesn't suit you. Against teams where we should dominate the ball I'd play Boufal and Gudio but this game won't be one were we dominate possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 that is not what I asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 If it was up to me for this game yes. If we try to go toe to toe with Liverpool and play a high line with full backs pressed high Mane and Salah will **** us up. I'd play Romeu, Hoj and Lemina with Long up top for this one and drop Boufal and Gudio. Just because you are a record signing doesn't mean you become an automatic starter if the game doesn't suit you. Against teams where we should dominate the ball I'd play Boufal and Gudio but this game won't be one were we dominate possession. ^This Can we do rocket science next? p.s. the more observant amongst you will recall that I had Guido, not Long, starting in my preferred line-up earlier in the thread. That'll be the raving hypocrite in me.... On reflection, I agree that Long is the better fit, tactically, for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 that is not what I asked. Lol shall I give you Saturday nights lotto numbers while I'm at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 If we go back to 10 ball retainers and Long, it will just give them absolutely nothing to worry about. They will be able to attack at will and probably have an easy win like they did at Anfield. I'd play Guido, with Tadic, Gabbi and JWP in behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 ^This Can we do rocket science next? p.s. the more observant amongst you will recall that I had Guido, not Long, starting in my preferred line-up earlier in the thread. That'll be the raving hypocrite in me.... On reflection, I agree that Long is the better fit, tactically, for this game. The shame being that you end up playing without a recognised striker on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Lol shall I give you Saturday nights lotto numbers while I'm at.it's a simple question. do you think Guido will be dropped? yes or no will do fine as an answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 I’m no Long hater but I can’t think of a single game this season when having him upfront by himself has helped us when we’ve been under pressure. VVD is quick enough to deal with any threat Long’s pace may offer. I’d go with Carillo to try and unsettle them physically and get on the end of crosses/free kicks/corners. I’d sit Hoj next to Romeu and play Lemina just in front as he has the game to get up and back. JWP seems to have found a bit of form, so him on the right and Boufal or Tadic on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 it's a simple question. do you think Guido will be dropped? yes or no will do fine as an answer My hunch is that Pellegrino will be reluctant to 'drop' him as he'll be worried about the flak he'll get from the tactical geniuses in the stands.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Play our strongest team. At no point this season has having Long up top made us look any more dangerous. Him playing just ensures that we have a non scoring striker leading the line when we need points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Play Lemina, Hojbjerg and Romeu, with JWP right, Carillo up top and Boufal left. In other words, drop Tadic to bring in Hojbjerg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 it's a simple question. do you think Guido will be dropped? yes or no will do fine as an answer It's a stupid question.. I've told you what I think should happen. How would I know what will happen? The only person who knows if he will be in the team is on Sunday is MoPe. If it was up to me Long would play for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Play our strongest team. At no point this season has having Long up top made us look any more dangerous. Him playing just ensures that we have a non scoring striker leading the line when we need points. Which scoring striker would you play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 I’m no Long hater but I can’t think of a single game this season when having him upfront by himself has helped us when we’ve been under pressure. VVD is quick enough to deal with any threat Long’s pace may offer. I’d go with Carillo to try and unsettle them physically and get on the end of crosses/free kicks/corners. I’d sit Hoj next to Romeu and play Lemina just in front as he has the game to get up and back. JWP seems to have found a bit of form, so him on the right and Boufal or Tadic on the left. I think part of the problem with playing Long upfront ( other than his finishing) is we don't release the ball quick enough. His main asset is pace so he needs the ball played over the top or in behind to space early to get the best out if him. Instead we fanny about with it and then try and play it to him with his back to goal and and a couple of defenders behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Another record signing to sit on the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Another record signing to sit on the bench? What difference does it make of all our strikers the one I want to see in the team the most is the one that cost 4 million quid..., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Play Lemina, Hojbjerg and Romeu, with JWP right, Carillo up top and Boufal left. In other words, drop Tadic to bring in Hojbjerg. Not gonna happen, he will not drop Tadic........Boufal yes but not Tadic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 It's a stupid question.. I've told you what I think should happen. How would I know what will happen? The only person who knows if he will be in the team is on Sunday is MoPe. If it was up to me Long would play for this game.what do you will happen. it is not a hard question do you Think Pellegrino will play or drop Guido? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 I see the argument about playing Long for his pace on the counter, but one thing to consider is that VVD will know all about Long having played and trained with him for two years, and will know how to deal with him. Carillo will be an unknown quantity to him, which might give us a slight advantage. And yes, I do realise I'm clutching at straws here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 what do you will happen. it is not a hard question do you Think Pellegrino will play or drop Guido? I'll try again I don't know. Do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Which scoring striker would you play? Jack Stephens...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 I'll try again I don't know. Do you?I think he will play him not hard to have an opinion on what you think the manager may do all gone a bit weird. I wonder if you have very predicted a result or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 I see the argument about playing Long for his pace on the counter, but one thing to consider is that VVD will know all about Long having played and trained with him for two years, and will know how to deal with him. Carillo will be an unknown quantity to him, which might give us a slight advantage. And yes, I do realise I'm clutching at straws here I was thinking the same. We will need all the advantages we can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 I think he will play him not hard to have an opinion on what you think the manager may do all gone a bit weird. I wonder if you have very predicted a result or anything Not weird just you doing your usual thing. I made it quite clear what I think we should do whether MoPe pays any attention to my opinion is of course open to debate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Not weird just you doing your usual thing. I made it quite clear what I think we should do whether MoPe pays any attention to my opinion is of course open to debate...I'm. not doing a usual thing. asking a question in the Liverpool build up thread where you stated long should play ahead of Guido, whether you think the manager will actually do it..... in the game against, eeeerrrrr Liverpool for some reason, you can't bring yourself to definitively answer the question and trying to turn it into something about me Let's leave it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
under the west stand Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 No bloody trains between Gillingham and Southampton on Sunday so will need to drive now from Barnstaple. All I ask is play your best team please. What about Exeter to Westbury, change, then to So'ton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 I'm. not doing a usual thing. asking a question in the Liverpool build up thread where you stated long should play ahead of Guido, whether you think the manager will actually do it..... in the game against, eeeerrrrr Liverpool for some reason, you can't bring yourself to definitively answer the question and trying to turn it into something about me Let's leave it here. This is the oddest conversation ever. "what do you think will happen?" "I don't know" Has been extrapolated in to some weird argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 That's Batman being Socratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Lovren and VvD? Wouldn't that be sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 This is the oddest conversation ever. "what do you think will happen?" "I don't know" Has been extrapolated in to some weird argument. That’s normal for here tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Just to be clear, I haven't got a clue what MoPe will do, or what will happen at the weekend - so please don't ask for any clarification. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Just to be clear, I haven't got a clue what MoPe will do, or what will happen at the weekend - so please don't ask for any clarification. Thanks. But feel free to say what you'd like to see happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 (edited) From MP... No new injury news. Austin only player not in squad Last week was important, this game against Liverpool is massive We have to improve and learn from last week We have to do everything almost perfect as they are a champions league side Most of the team now starting. Competition is there but most of the team is the same Happy with people at the club. Everyone is respectful, even though it is tough Understand fans unhappiness. I enjoy the wins with them. Everyone at the club is united. This is a special game being with Southampton and hosting Liverpool and will try to do everything to win. Much better than we did away to them We will need luck, we will need players to be efficient and produce good moments The belief is with the players, this is a big test We have to show some gratitude to virgil, he was a good player for the club and made great profit. But he is the past and we will do everything to win Everyone has an opinion on virgil. I prefer fans focused on supporting our players than booing him or other Liverpool players The market has changed due pogba and neymar. This meant big fee for virgil. The players do not set the fees, those behind them do We had to improve small things individually and as a team, we knew we are getting better. Last week showed it. Doing the small things better. Don't think our recent form is anything to do with virgil leaving. Will not use him as an excuse. We must not and is the easy way to do so. We have a point to prove against Liverpool this season. The away game or spurs away was not good enough. We have to be like we were at home to spurs for example Edited 9 February, 2018 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 From MP... No new injury news. Austin only player not in squad Last week was important, this game against Liverpool is massive We have to improve and learn from last week We have to do everything almost perfect as they are a champions league side Most of the team now starting. Competition is there but most of the team is the same Happy with people at the club. Everyone is respectful, even though it is tough Understand fans unhappiness. I enjoy the wins with them. Everyone at the club is united. This is a special game being with Southampton and hosting Liverpool and will try to do everything to win. Much better than we did away to them We will need luck, we will need players to be efficient and produce good moments The belief is with the players, this is a big test We have to show some gratitude to virgil, he was a good player for the club and made great profit. But he is the past and we will do everything to win Everyone has an opinion on virgil. I prefer fans focused on supporting our players than booing him or other Liverpool players The market has changed due pogba and neymar. This meant big fee for virgil. The players do not set the fees, those behind them do We had to improve small things individually and as a team, we knew we are getting better. Last week showed it. Doing the small things better. Don't think our recent form is anything to do with virgil leaving. Will not use him as an excuse. We must not and is the easy way to do so. We have a point to prove against Liverpool this season. The away game or spurs away was not good enough. We have to be like we were at home to spurs for example Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 The stats say we're improving: https://www.premierleague.com/news/618565 Looking forward to this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 From MP... No new injury news. Austin only player not in squad Last week was important, this game against Liverpool is massive We have to improve and learn from last week We have to do everything almost perfect as they are a champions league side Most of the team now starting. Competition is there but most of the team is the same Happy with people at the club. Everyone is respectful, even though it is tough Understand fans unhappiness. I enjoy the wins with them. Everyone at the club is united. This is a special game being with Southampton and hosting Liverpool and will try to do everything to win. Much better than we did away to them We will need luck, we will need players to be efficient and produce good moments The belief is with the players, this is a big test We have to show some gratitude to virgil, he was a good player for the club and made great profit. But he is the past and we will do everything to win Everyone has an opinion on virgil. I prefer fans focused on supporting our players than booing him or other Liverpool players The market has changed due pogba and neymar. This meant big fee for virgil. The players do not set the fees, those behind them do We had to improve small things individually and as a team, we knew we are getting better. Last week showed it. Doing the small things better. Don't think our recent form is anything to do with virgil leaving. Will not use him as an excuse. We must not and is the easy way to do so. We have a point to prove against Liverpool this season. The away game or spurs away was not good enough. We have to be like we were at home to spurs for example Cheers for posting, Bats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 I think Long could be useful playing off of Carillo tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 We are going to get smashed 5-0 Salah and Mane going to royally do us........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 What about Exeter to Westbury, change, then to So'ton? No trains at all running through Salisbury area, have looked at that and you need a bus from Westbury right into Southampton. ******** to that plus the cost is ridiculous, my Mrs said National Express do a coach which is £50 and takes 8 bloody hours so not sure what Sat Nav they use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 We are going to get smashed 5-0 Salah and Mane going to royally do us........ That's the spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 No trains at all running through Salisbury area, have looked at that and you need a bus from Westbury right into Southampton. ******** to that plus the cost is ridiculous, my Mrs said National Express do a coach which is £50 and takes 8 bloody hours so not sure what Sat Nav they use. Looks like a drive to Dorchester South Station from Barnstaple via Taunton and Yeovil then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALK DMC Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 ....and the goal scorers for Saints are? Well, since the start of 2018, Saints goals have only been scored by people who did not register a single goal in the first part of the season (Aug-Dec). Long, JWP, Stephens and Sanchez (og). Based on that I predict our goal scorers will be Cedric, Hoedt and Hojberg ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Mario is a doubt with a back problem according to Solent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2018 Share Posted 9 February, 2018 Mario is a doubt with a back problem according to Solent. Really? from the managers interview posted above No new injury news. Austin only player not in squad we really need him fit and playing like last weekend if we are going to survive the drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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