Heisenberg Posted 3 February, 2018 Posted 3 February, 2018 This game will mark 644 days since we last beat a top 6 side in the league. Got a funny feeling we will pinch this one* *cheeky insurance bet placed just in case COYS
SuperSAINT Posted 3 February, 2018 Posted 3 February, 2018 Depends which Liverpool turn up for us to have any chance.
Nolan Posted 3 February, 2018 Posted 3 February, 2018 They've got a poor defense. Surely even we can score a couple against them.
Pamplemousse Posted 3 February, 2018 Posted 3 February, 2018 On their day, they are a very, very good side. If we play like we did at home to Spurs, there is no reason why we can't get something from this game. But it'll be a toughie. At least winning today has taken the pressure off this one somewhat. And after that match, we have a very nice run of fixtures coming up which will define our destiny. I won't be judging Pellegrino on this one. I reckon we'll lose, 3-1.
Guan 2.0 Posted 3 February, 2018 Posted 3 February, 2018 On the WBA build up I wrote : McCarthy Cedric Hoedt Stephens Bertie Lemina Hojberg JWP Boufal Tadic Guido I think it could be a pretty good front 4. If Guido really is decent with his head, then Bertrand, Tadic, and JWP could deliver some crosses that could cause problems. And if Pardew sets up lumps to deal with the aerial threat, then Boufal could have a field day if he's played in the hole. After today, no doubt I would play that Against Liverpool! The team with the most in-form players IMO. BTW, Props to SKD for his correct prediction! That will be pretty close to what we will go for, except I think (not want) Romeu will come in instead of PEH
Bananaman Posted 3 February, 2018 Posted 3 February, 2018 imagine if we'd beaten Brighton..ffs. Came on here all excited and then realised that we have liverpool next...sigh
waylander Posted 3 February, 2018 Posted 3 February, 2018 Swansea managed to beat them so we can at least get a draw.
SuperSAINT Posted 3 February, 2018 Posted 3 February, 2018 imagine if we'd beaten Brighton..ffs. Came on here all excited and then realised that we have liverpool next...sigh Had we of beaten Brighton & drawn to WBA, it would have felt slightly better, but 4 pts is 4pts! We still have some b*stard fixtures still to come though.
Saint_John Posted 3 February, 2018 Posted 3 February, 2018 They have an away game in the CL 3 days after our game (v FC Porto), so they will probably travel out there the next day. I wonder if that will be on their minds at all..... If not a few good kicks on the ankles should remind them.
5string Posted 3 February, 2018 Posted 3 February, 2018 Hopefully MoPe now knows his strongest [current] team. Today's starting line up, but with Hoj instead of Romeu. Players often raise their game against the big clubs (touting for business?), so maybe we have a chance to get something. However, I think VvD will want to prove a point and will be firing up his new team mates (especially our old buddies). If so, we could be in for a hammering. Imagine if they put out a team including VvD, Lallana, Clyne, Lovren & Mane, then they went and thumped us - that would hurt.
IOWSaintDaz Posted 3 February, 2018 Posted 3 February, 2018 Hopefully MoPe now knows his strongest [current] team. Today's starting line up, but with Hoj instead of Romeu. Players often raise their game against the big clubs (touting for business?), so maybe we have a chance to get something. However, I think VvD will want to prove a point and will be firing up his new team mates (especially our old buddies). If so, we could be in for a hammering. Imagine if they put out a team including VvD, Lallana, Clyne, Lovren & Mane, then they went and thumped us - that would hurt. Clyne won't be playing any time soon has a serious back problem, also doubt Lallana will as he is struggling with injury & fitness recently and behind now behind Salah in the pecking order and also Lovren who usually is the main target for our fans taunting when playing them will also miss out if VVD and Matip are fit to play, expect much of our attention will be directed at VVD anyway after the way he behaved
Saints foreva Posted 3 February, 2018 Posted 3 February, 2018 Hope Stephens isn't marking VvD on corners...
LGTL Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Clyne still out with that 'back' injury I see.... Father Christmas is real too.
Pamplemousse Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Hope Stephens isn't marking VvD on corners... The same could be said for VVD marking Stephens...
DuncanRG Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Hope Stephens isn't marking VvD on corners... I’m just glad Liverpool don’t have many big players at set pieces. West Brom had so many that Tadic was marking Rondon.
Suomi Saint Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 I don't see any reason why we can't give Liverpool a good game. I am quite confident about this one as long as he plays the same team (except he needs to bring in PEH for OR).
Batman Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Clyne still out with that 'back' injury I see.... Father Christmas is real too.lol what are you suggesting
Wimborne_saint Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 lol what are you suggesting There was rumours he was allegedly banned for drugs and the back injury was a cover up. Guessing that's what he means!
fanimal Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Any point will be a bonus, bigger games for us to follow and get really excited about. Just get it over and get the scousers out of town.
Pass the Dutchie Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 As long as we don't try to only defend for 90 minutes this could be a good game.
whelk Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Has to be same side although would understand Hojberg for Romeu maybe. Please no Davis recall. Little hope that they may have one eye on Porto game on the Wednesday.
Saint_Ash Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Reading the secret footballers (Dave Kitson) books the cover-up of drug taking citing injury is a regular occurrence.
trousers Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 (edited) Heart says stick with same starting 11 Head says tweak it a bit, thus: ---------------------- McCarthy ---------------------- Cedric ---- Stephens --- Hoedt --- Bertie ------------ Hojbjerg ---------- Romeu ---------- ------------------------ Lemina ----------------------- ----- JWP ------------------------------- Boufal --- -------------------------- Carrillo ---------------------- Subs: Forster, Yoshida, Davis, Tadic, Sims/Redmond, Long, Gabbiadini On the surface, that maybe looks too defensive, given the clamour for attacking football, but by bringing back Hojbjerg alongside Romeu, we can give Lemina the freedom of a more box-to-box roll IMO, so I would still see it as a positive line up. I admit that line up is somewhat harsh on Tadic though, and there's always a case for starting him, especially now as he should link up well with Carrillo, but on current form it's difficult to justify dropping JWP too, and I feel we need to retain Boufal in the starting line up for his creativity and unpredictability. Good to have a few selection headaches though. Edited 4 February, 2018 by trousers
Pamplemousse Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Same tactics please that were successfully implemented against Tottenham at home.
derry Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Heart says stick with same starting 11 Head says tweak it a bit, thus: ---------------------- McCarthy ---------------------- Cedric ---- Stephens --- Hoedt --- Bertie ------------ Hojbjerg ---------- Romeu ---------- ------------------------ Lemina ----------------------- ----- JWP ------------------------------- Boufal --- -------------------------- Carrillo ---------------------- Subs: Forster, Yoshida, Davis, Tadic, Sims/Redmond, Long, Gabbiadini On the surface, that maybe looks too defensive, given the clamour for attacking football, but by bringing back Hojbjerg alongside Romeu, we can give Lemina the freedom of a more box-to-box roll IMO, so I would still see it as a positive line up. I admit that line up is somewhat harsh on Tadic though, and there's always a case for starting him, especially now as he should link up well with Carrillo, but on current form it's difficult to justify dropping JWP too, and I feel we need to retain Boufal in the starting line up for his creativity and unpredictability. Good to have a few selection headaches though. That is arguably our strongest team, I'd prefer Gabbiadini as a goal threat to Boufal or alternatively Long for hard working physical support for Carillo. I'm not sure that Yoshida isn't a better defender than Stephens but Jack has the goal fever at the moment. I'm also erring on the side of JWP against Liverpool despite his lack of pace. He has four goals now, takes free kicks and corners and is less of a risk which gives us a solid midfield but we need two strikers on the field. Against the lesser sides I'd like to see the midfield three plus Long on the right, Carillo as the tatget man and Gabbiadini free role off the left.
Baird of the land Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Heart says stick with same starting 11 Head says tweak it a bit, thus: ---------------------- McCarthy ---------------------- Cedric ---- Stephens --- Hoedt --- Bertie ------------ Hojbjerg ---------- Romeu ---------- ------------------------ Lemina ----------------------- ----- JWP ------------------------------- Boufal --- -------------------------- Carrillo ---------------------- Subs: Forster, Yoshida, Davis, Tadic, Sims/Redmond, Long, Gabbiadini On the surface, that maybe looks too defensive, given the clamour for attacking football, but by bringing back Hojbjerg alongside Romeu, we can give Lemina the freedom of a more box-to-box roll IMO, so I would still see it as a positive line up. I admit that line up is somewhat harsh on Tadic though, and there's always a case for starting him, especially now as he should link up well with Carrillo, but on current form it's difficult to justify dropping JWP too, and I feel we need to retain Boufal in the starting line up for his creativity and unpredictability. Good to have a few selection headaches though. Yeah that would be my lineup of preference.
alpine_saint Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Would love it if we could turn them over. They are part of the reason we are in a mess this season. Really hoping for a game losing screw up from Lovren or Van Dijk Wonder if Lallana will bottle playing again ?
InvictaSaint Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Reading the secret footballers (Dave Kitson) books the cover-up of drug taking citing injury is a regular occurrence. Christ. How much has Gardos been taking then??? (Note: for any lawyers reading, this was a joke. No accusation of actual drug taking by our rarely-seen centre back was intended or should be inferred. Please contact Invictasaint’s legal team at Fleesem, Robbem and Screwem on 01583 666888 for any further enquiries)
jamesfp1 Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 We have to draw this, at least, as Stoke and Huddersfield have winnable games. Let's hope we catch them on an off day. Same team as yesterday with Hoj for Rom. Expect him to make too many changes though and we'll be back where we were..
Manuel Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Just home he fields the same team as yesterday, barring injury, or as some have said Hoj for Rom. No tinkering.
Saint_lambden Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Highly suspect Hojbjerg will come in for Boufal and we'll set-up in a similar way as to how we did against Spurs at home. ---------------------Alex Mc------------------- --Cedric-----Stephens-----Hoedt---Bertrand-- ---------Hojbjerg---Lemina--Romeu----------- ---JWP-----------------------------------Tadic-- --------------------Carillo----------------------- 2-1 L'Pool.
Dusic Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 There is an argument to go unchanged and build some familarity. There is also an argument to swap an attacking player out for Hojbjerg and look to keep it tight. Tough decision.
Toomer Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Would be nice to see Mo and Mane pick injuries today.
davefoggy Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 I really hope VVD plays, looks a liability at the moment!!! The 'big club" pressure getting to him?? We can score against them if we believe
Pamplemousse Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Imagine the scenes if VVD (or Lovren) were to concede a last minute penalty next weekend
SW5 SAINT Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Imagine the scenes if VVD (or Lovren) were to concede a last minute penalty next weekend Or an own goal.....
Saint Martini Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 Or an own goal..... One of them trying to clear the ball and it goes in off the other.
ally_uk Posted 4 February, 2018 Posted 4 February, 2018 I reckon they will smash us not being negative but can't see our back line handling Mane, Salah got a feeling they will tear us apart....
HKsaint Posted 5 February, 2018 Posted 5 February, 2018 I think we’ll win. Just a sneaking feeling. We need VDD's or Lovren's help, and a good penalty taker.
Dark Munster Posted 5 February, 2018 Posted 5 February, 2018 Hopefully MoPe now knows his strongest [current] team. Today's starting line up, but with Hoj instead of Romeu. Players often raise their game against the big clubs (touting for business?), so maybe we have a chance to get something. However, I think VvD will want to prove a point and will be firing up his new team mates (especially our old buddies). If so, we could be in for a hammering. Imagine if they put out a team including VvD, Lallana, Clyne, Lovren & Mane, then they went and thumped us - that would hurt. Even worse if you add Oxlade-Chamberlain.
Gingeletiss Posted 5 February, 2018 Posted 5 February, 2018 -------------------McCarthy---------------------- -----Stephens------Hoedt---------Yoshida------ Cedric--------------Romeu-------------Bertrand --------Hojbjerg------------Lamina-------------- -------------------------------Gabbiadini--------- -------------------Carrillo------------------------- This, we need three CB's against their 3 man attack, Yoshida, because he is quick, Hojberg for the attacking element, Lamina for the beast element Romeu as DM, them Gab backing up, and feeding off Carrillo, Sores and Bertrand for width. imho of course.
Saint Garrett Posted 5 February, 2018 Posted 5 February, 2018 -------------------McCarthy---------------------- -----Stephens------Hoedt---------Yoshida------ Cedric--------------Romeu-------------Bertrand --------Hojbjerg------------Lamina-------------- -------------------------------Gabbiadini--------- -------------------Carrillo------------------------- This, we need three CB's against their 3 man attack, Yoshida, because he is quick, Hojberg for the attacking element, Lamina for the beast element Romeu as DM, them Gab backing up, and feeding off Carrillo, Sores and Bertrand for width. imho of course. Can’t see us suddenly changing system. It’ll be something like... McCarthy; Cedric Stephens Hoedt Bertrand; Hojbjerg Romeu Lemina; JWP Davis Tadic; Carrillo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Andy Durman Posted 5 February, 2018 Posted 5 February, 2018 How do we counter the pace of Liverpool? Think a lot will be upset when Stephens is dropped, but Mays is the fastest option, although prone to a cock up
JRM Posted 5 February, 2018 Posted 5 February, 2018 Unfortunately I think Liverpool set up perfectly to take advantage of our weaknesses, as we are incapable of hurting teams on the counter they'll dominate the ball and find holes at the back to break us down. Not a game I'm looking forward to, despise the club / fans and dlckhead of a manager, was a beautiful sight seeing Klopp so upset at Spurs late equaliser. Last season was brilliant not losing to them in 4 games, lets hope we can do it again. I'd take a point.
darren2 Posted 5 February, 2018 Posted 5 February, 2018 Will be happy with a draw from this. Will also be interesting to see if we can put our new "positive" approach to a top team. Also be prepared for the usual from the pro Liverpool pundits
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