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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42916936

 

At least Arsene has finally got the reality of what's been happening for years... It's funny that he realises it at a time when his team can't compete anymore!

Do you think anything will ever change? Clubs like ours have always been fodder for the few but in recent years it's been more extreme.. Mahrez being the latest to have his head turned by a big club and refuse to play at his " little club".

 

Up until Leicester won the league there seemed to be a bit of levelling with the new money coming into the game but since then the few have just out gunned every other team, taking players at will to strengthen their own teams and in some cases it seemed like just to weaken others.

I have always believed that it's in the premier leagues interest to have a strong Man Utd, Liverpool etc as they have the most fans abroad to sell the product. I am sure that referees (as part of the FA) are told to protect the brand (and that means the biggest clubs) and this probably impacts on the decisions favouring the few on the pitch, even if it is subconsciously.

 

Maybe the same situation across every major league just says its time for a European super league?

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Maybe the same situation across every major league just says its time for a European super league?

 

That would be a financial disaster for Saints! Resulting in a big drop in income, lower transfer and wage budget and lower quality of players to watch. A bit like dropping out of the Premier League...

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That would be a financial disaster for Saints! Resulting in a big drop in income, lower transfer and wage budget and lower quality of players to watch. A bit like dropping out of the Premier League...

 

However the teams in the league with us would also have a lower wage budget etc...so actually it might benefit in a sporting sense, in that we are no longer competing with teams which have 8 times our income and have wage budgets greater than our entire revenue?

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That would be a financial disaster for Saints! Resulting in a big drop in income, lower transfer and wage budget and lower quality of players to watch. A bit like dropping out of the Premier League...

 

So what? How does that affect me and any other fan exactly?

 

The bit in bold is pretty self explanatory as to how it affects the fans... we'd be watching a lower standard of football.

 

Cue jokes of how it can't get any worse than it is this season, well with worse players it could! ;)

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The bit in bold is pretty self explanatory as to how it effects the fans... we'd be watching a lower standard of football.

 

Cue jokes of how it can't get any worse than it is this season, well with worse players it could! ;)

 

I'd argue that the MLS is way more exciting to watch than the Premier League, and the standard of football is rubbish. But every team has a legitimate chance of winning. At the moment, Saints have no chance of winning the Premier League.

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The bit in bold is pretty self explanatory as to how it effects the fans... we'd be watching a lower standard of football.

 

Cue jokes of how it can't get any worse than it is this season, well with worse players it could! ;)

 

How would it bring fans into effect? I think I much preferred the 3 post a day rather than Glasgow lite version: I tended to miss the three posts.

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Money is disgusting in football, makes it very difficult if you stop and think about it and it's definitely made fans more impatient in the last 10-20 years. I would never have got as annoyed watching limited players like Maddison, Widdrington, Benali etc trying their best because they weren't petulant posing millionaires. Working hard to afford tickets, follow teams and having to put up with cocks like Redmond whining on the pitch every 5 seconds isn't great. Do wonder where it'll end.

 

But take solace in the number of teams who spend fortunes and get nowhere. It'll always be 11 v 11, you can always produce players, give players a chance big clubs wouldn't and still compete. They'll start making £100m players normal, but they won't be 2 or 3 times better than the £20m bracket.

 

Premier league works because any of that top 6 could win it with a big of luck and good management. Retaining it is fcking hard. But a ceiling of 7th for the rest does rely on it changing regularly as it quickly gets boring. Every club needs to feel it can improve and grow.

 

Correct me if I am wrong but only four of the top 6 have won the premier league and one of them (Arsenal) haven't won it for umpteen years...

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I'd argue that the MLS is way more exciting to watch than the Premier League, and the standard of football is rubbish. But every team has a legitimate chance of winning. At the moment, Saints have no chance of winning the Premier League.

 

The NFL style with wage caps and a draft at the end of the season is a great model, honestly wouldn't mind a complete revamp of football along those lines. Will never happen though.

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The NFL style with wage caps and a draft at the end of the season is a great model, honestly wouldn't mind a complete revamp of football along those lines. Will never happen though.

 

What is odd about the American sports system with drafts going to the worst team first and wage caps is that it has the feel of a Communist idea rather than the home of Capitalism.

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What is odd about the American sports system with drafts going to the worst team first and wage caps is that it has the feel of a Communist idea rather than the home of Capitalism.

 

Don't think anyone is trying to make any kind of political statement with it, it's just a fairer and more competitive way of doing it. You could be the worst team one season and with some shrewd additions in the off-season be in the superbowl the season after.

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Don't think anyone is trying to make any kind of political statement with it, it's just a fairer and more competitive way of doing it. You could be the worst team one season and with some shrewd additions in the off-season be in the superbowl the season after.

 

It has a flaw though, in that teams that know halfway through a season they aren't going to make the playoffs can deliberately do even worse in the remaining games in order to get a better draft pick for the new season.

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What is odd about the American sports system with drafts going to the worst team first and wage caps is that it has the feel of a Communist idea rather than the home of Capitalism.

 

Alternatively it is trying to create a more level (the bigs clubs still have an advantage) playing field. In the same way monopoly commissions work in the business world.

Capitalism is not about the big and mighty destroying the little guy you know?

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It has a flaw though, in that teams that know halfway through a season they aren't going to make the playoffs can deliberately do even worse in the remaining games in order to get a better draft pick for the new season.

 

Genuine question, as I'm not really a fan off American sports, but is there a history of teams deliberately losing to get a better draft pick? I've never heard that before.

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