Raging Bull Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Calling K Billy, Guan, Eric and anyone else that knows anything that can shed light rather than speculate. What actually is going on here? We have a win rate of roughly 16% and are probably the only club in the history of the PL to not sack a manager that’s so clearly out of his depth. I don’t believe at all it has anything to do with Les’s ego or anything such crap so there has to be more to it. Do the new owners actually care at all? If they do care can you give us something to hang on to i.e. he’s gone if we don’t win Saturday? If they don’t care then so be it, at least we know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 (edited) Calling K Billy, Guan, Eric and anyone else that knows anything that can shed light rather than speculate. What actually is going on here? We have a win rate of roughly 16% and are probably the only club in the history of the PL to not sack a manager that’s so clearly out of his depth. I don’t believe at all it has anything to do with Les’s ego or anything such crap so there has to be more to it. Do the new owners actually care at all? If they do care can you give us something to hang on to i.e. he’s gone if we don’t win Saturday? If they don’t care then so be it, at least we know Feels like a mixture of arrogance, stubbornness & aloofness. Edited 1 February, 2018 by SuperSAINT Added an extra one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Leadership vacuum. Who can sack him and do they give a ****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 They can’t do anything because they can’t attract a new manager to the club, so at the moment it’s a toss up between keeping pellegrino, limping on and hoping that we stay up or sack him and put a caretaker manager, probably kelvin Davis and pray we stay up. Let’s be serious, nobody I’d beating down the doors to take on the task of keeping us up and if they are it’s going to cost us a lot of money, something I feel the new owners are not keen on spending. I know most of you are bashing les reed but even he gets direction from above,so I guess that the people above are not willing to give the all clear to sack pellegrino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 They can’t do anything because they can’t attract a new manager to the club, so at the moment it’s a toss up between keeping pellegrino, limping on and hoping that we stay up or sack him and put a caretaker manager, probably kelvin Davis and pray we stay up. Let’s be serious, nobody I’d beating down the doors to take on the task of keeping us up and if they are it’s going to cost us a lot of money, something I feel the new owners are not keen on spending. I know most of you are bashing les reed but even he gets direction from above,so I guess that the people above are not willing to give the all clear to sack pellegrinoI don't know why people project their own self-loathing and frustration at the club on to prospective managerial candidates. Those candidates have not invested the feelings you feel into Southampton Football Club. They don't care about that stuff. When the vacancy comes up there will be plenty, plenty of candidates who will want it. Premier League club, chance to be a hero and at worst managing a rich club in the Championship. That's a good job in English football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 They can’t do anything because they can’t attract a new manager to the club, so at the moment it’s a toss up between keeping pellegrino, limping on and hoping that we stay up or sack him and put a caretaker manager, probably kelvin Davis and pray we stay up. Let’s be serious, nobody I’d beating down the doors to take on the task of keeping us up and if they are it’s going to cost us a lot of money, something I feel the new owners are not keen on spending. I know most of you are bashing les reed but even he gets direction from above,so I guess that the people above are not willing to give the all clear to sack pellegrino We could EASILY attract a new manager, just offer a decent incentive/bonus - 2 million? - to keep us up. I’m sure Silva (for example) would see that as a low risk lucrative way of enhancing his reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 I don't know why people project their own self-loathing and frustration at the club on to prospective managerial candidates. Those candidates have not invested the feelings you feel into Southampton Football Club. They don't care about that stuff. When the vacancy comes up there will be plenty, plenty of candidates who will want it. Premier League club, chance to be a hero and at worst managing a rich club in the Championship. That's a good job in English football. Also, millions in compo if you fail Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Hello ****ers. I’m back, but only for this. Board meeting this afternoon. Still in there as of an hour or so ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 They can’t do anything because they can’t attract a new manager to the club, so at the moment it’s a toss up between keeping pellegrino, limping on and hoping that we stay up or sack him and put a caretaker manager, probably kelvin Davis and pray we stay up. Let’s be serious, nobody I’d beating down the doors to take on the task of keeping us up and if they are it’s going to cost us a lot of money, something I feel the new owners are not keen on spending. I know most of you are bashing les reed but even he gets direction from above,so I guess that the people above are not willing to give the all clear to sack pellegrino Nonsense. All the other clubs down there have changed manager. From a finance point of view a managers pay off is minimal - it is certainly not cost effective to keep a bad manager given the consequences of relegation, or even the loss in prize money for league position. Something is not right at the club. I wouldn’t be surprised if Reed and Kruger hate the new owners and just want to be paid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Hello ****ers. I’m back, but only for this. Board meeting this afternoon. Still in there as of an hour or so ago. Bull****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Hello ****ers. I’m back, but only for this. Board meeting this afternoon. Still in there as of an hour or so ago. Was Curbishley ever appointed in the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Wasn’t Tom largely right throughout the Virgil saga? (called the transfer request about a day before if i remember rightly). Clutching onto any tiny shred of hope I can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Wasn’t Tom largely right throughout the Virgil saga? (called the transfer request about a day before if i remember rightly). Clutching onto any tiny shred of hope I can! Think he was on that to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Please Lord let it be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 I imagine they're having a chat regarding our forthcoming visit to China in pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 I imagine they're having a chat regarding our forthcoming visit to China in pre-season. & how best to introduce Theo & Promes to the Chinese fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Hello ****ers. I’m back, but only for this. Board meeting this afternoon. Still in there as of an hour or so ago. Monopoly does take a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Tom28 is too legit to quit if I remember rightly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Hello ****ers. I’m back, but only for this. Board meeting this afternoon. Still in there as of an hour or so ago. I was in there too. But I was told I am not allowed to give any updates. But I was there. We were interested in some players this window, I cant give any updates as I was told to keep quiet. We were looking at some PL level players but we couldn't get them over the line. I am not allowed to give any updates but we are looking at signing a few players in the summer. I can't give you any names as I have been told to not share that information. But you can assure we will be bringing some players in. We have been told about possible new managers to take over at the club. But I am not allowed to say when that could be. But be assured we will have a new manager one day. Someone who has managed a club before. But I can't give you the names sadly. I can say however they are likely to be male. We were not looking to sell a defender in the summer and we stuck to our guns even though no bids came in. It was tough to reject no bids but we can be proud we stood up to those clubs who put in no bids and showed them we won't be pushed around. There was a bid that came in for a defender before this window opened and its been accepted. I can't give any details but I think they have already played for their new club, they cost quite a bit of money but I cant give any details I'm afraid. Going forwards I have heard that we might be playing a game of football soon, rumour has it this game will be 90 mins but I'm not allowed to give any details. The players will be wearing a shirt, possibly red and white but I'm not allowed to confirm that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Whatever happens with regards to the club over the next week or so, that's what I've just been told. I can't reveal anything yet but trust me I know it will happen. Don't shoot the messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Hello ****ers. I’m back, but only for this. Board meeting this afternoon. Still in there as of an hour or so ago. With all respect, but the board meeting wasn’t about sacking Pellegrino today or tomorrow. It wouldn’t make sense to let him do the press conference and sack him before the game. If he was to be given the boot it would be Sunday or Monday. Enough time for the caretaker/new manager to prepare for the next match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 I was in there too. But I was told I am not allowed to give any updates. But I was there. We were interested in some players this window, I cant give any updates as I was told to keep quiet. We were looking at some PL level players but we couldn't get them over the line. I am not allowed to give any updates but we are looking at signing a few players in the summer. I can't give you any names as I have been told to not share that information. But you can assure we will be bringing some players in. We have been told about possible new managers to take over at the club. But I am not allowed to say when that could be. But be assured we will have a new manager one day. Someone who has managed a club before. But I can't give you the names sadly. I can say however they are likely to be male. We were not looking to sell a defender in the summer and we stuck to our guns even though no bids came in. It was tough to reject no bids but we can be proud we stood up to those clubs who put in no bids and showed them we won't be pushed around. There was a bid that came in for a defender before this window opened and its been accepted. I can't give any details but I think they have already played for their new club, they cost quite a bit of money but I cant give any details I'm afraid. Going forwards I have heard that we might be playing a game of football soon, rumour has it this game will be 90 mins but I'm not allowed to give any details. The players will be wearing a shirt, possibly red and white but I'm not allowed to confirm that. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Wasn’t Tom largely right throughout the Virgil saga? (called the transfer request about a day before if i remember rightly). Clutching onto any tiny shred of hope I can! Yes he was. The vitriol he gets is weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Yes he was. The vitriol he gets is weird. No he wasn't.... He said VVD wouldn't be leaving when both Les and Ralph said prior he wouldn't be leaving in the summer window.... You seriously take that to be ITK? I'm still waiting for this attacking midfielder who was supposed to sign last January on deadline day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Yes he was. The vitriol he gets is weird. The abuse everyone, willing to stick their neck on the line and share snippets, get is weird. I put it down to jealousy if I’m honest. If you don’t believe someone ignore it, don’t abuse until they no longer post alas Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Slightly worrying if there is a long Board Meeting going on. Should take about 2 seconds.... You're Fired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 The abuse everyone, willing to stick their neck on the line and share snippets, get is weird. I put it down to jealousy if I’m honest. If you don’t believe someone ignore it, don’t abuse until they no longer post alas Tom. So are you saying what everyone says on the internet should be taken to be true? I suggest you go back and read his posts and then my response will make more sense to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 So are you saying what everyone says on the internet should be taken to be true? I suggest you go back and read his posts and then my response will make more sense to you. No, I’m not saying that at all. I’m in the fortunate position that I can take everything I hear as a pinch of salt and check with someone who can confirm either way. What I’m saying is some people come on here to read snippets, if you don’t believe what someone is saying, ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 The abuse everyone, willing to stick their neck on the line and share snippets, get is weird. I put it down to jealousy if I’m honest. If you don’t believe someone ignore it, don’t abuse until they no longer post alas Tom. Nah there's plenty that you can tell straight away are full of ****, and normally I'm sceptical of all. I just seem to recall Tom28 gaining some kind of credit from the VVD debacle, so benefit of the doubt n all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 No, I’m not saying that at all. I’m in the fortunate position that I can take everything I hear as a pinch of salt and check with someone who can confirm either way. What I’m saying is some people come on here to read snippets, if you don’t believe what someone is saying, ignore it. I 100% agree with you. Being mean for the sake of being mean isn't right. However Tom has been shown to be a WUM time and time again. Even by those who genuinely do give us information. If you ask him to give you something concrete or PM someone ie a mod about info prior to anything actually being in the media he won't do it. His 'info' is so vague and is said in a way that if it doesn't happen he can escape without needing to explain why. For example the vvd thing. He first said he was staying. We all knew he was staying. He said the atmosphere was toxic. Isn't that likely to be the case when someone hands in a transfer request? And my fav one of all " I have info about vvd but I will only release it if he moves today". Knowing full well that both the club and Liverpool had no intention of doing a deal on deadline day because both sides said they wouldn't weeks before. There are genuine itk people and when they give information they do so in a way where they are not caring about if you believe them or not. They give off something Tom doesn't, actual details. His info is designed purely to be able to say he was right no matter which side of the coin lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Leadership vacuum. Sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 On the balance of what I know, I’d be inclined to believe Tom28 is on the level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 With all respect, but the board meeting wasn’t about sacking Pellegrino today or tomorrow. It wouldn’t make sense to let him do the press conference and sack him before the game. If he was to be given the boot it would be Sunday or Monday. Enough time for the caretaker/new manager to prepare for the next match. The board meeting could have decided to sack him, but business as usual until they do. They'd clearly decided to sack Nigel before he took charge of the Chelsea game. My gut feeling is the day after the Liverpool game sticks out a bit. Gives us 2 weeks before another league game Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 I know who Tom28 is unlike other supposed itks on here. I reckon he's legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Board meeting could be anything. Hope it’s THE thing Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Let's hope it's one of two things - a sacking or a vote of confidence from the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 It's probably just to consider the strategy post transfer window where we got no one in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 No, I’m not saying that at all. I’m in the fortunate position that I can take everything I hear as a pinch of salt and check with someone who can confirm either way. What I’m saying is some people come on here to read snippets, if you don’t believe what someone is saying, ignore it. I agree with this, plus the snippets always give us something to talk about. I'd rather a fake ITK than a wind up merchant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 I was in there too. But I was told I am not allowed to give any updates. But I was there. We were interested in some players this window, I cant give any updates as I was told to keep quiet. We were looking at some PL level players but we couldn't get them over the line. I am not allowed to give any updates but we are looking at signing a few players in the summer. I can't give you any names as I have been told to not share that information. But you can assure we will be bringing some players in. We have been told about possible new managers to take over at the club. But I am not allowed to say when that could be. But be assured we will have a new manager one day. Someone who has managed a club before. But I can't give you the names sadly. I can say however they are likely to be male. We were not looking to sell a defender in the summer and we stuck to our guns even though no bids came in. It was tough to reject no bids but we can be proud we stood up to those clubs who put in no bids and showed them we won't be pushed around. There was a bid that came in for a defender before this window opened and its been accepted. I can't give any details but I think they have already played for their new club, they cost quite a bit of money but I cant give any details I'm afraid. Going forwards I have heard that we might be playing a game of football soon, rumour has it this game will be 90 mins but I'm not allowed to give any details. The players will be wearing a shirt, possibly red and white but I'm not allowed to confirm that. You’ll never get the time you spent writing that back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 I agree with this, plus the snippets always give us something to talk about. I'd rather a fake ITK than a wind up merchant.I agree except for that Jack schitt bloke and all his alter egos. Screw that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 I 100% agree with you. Being mean for the sake of being mean isn't right. However Tom has been shown to be a WUM time and time again. Even by those who genuinely do give us information. If you ask him to give you something concrete or PM someone ie a mod about info prior to anything actually being in the media he won't do it. His 'info' is so vague and is said in a way that if it doesn't happen he can escape without needing to explain why. For example the vvd thing. He first said he was staying. We all knew he was staying. He said the atmosphere was toxic. Isn't that likely to be the case when someone hands in a transfer request? And my fav one of all " I have info about vvd but I will only release it if he moves today". Knowing full well that both the club and Liverpool had no intention of doing a deal on deadline day because both sides said they wouldn't weeks before. There are genuine itk people and when they give information they do so in a way where they are not caring about if you believe them or not. They give off something Tom doesn't, actual details. His info is designed purely to be able to say he was right no matter which side of the coin lands. I did email a Mod. I shared with him the information I had. He knows why it cannot be made public. Your turn of phrase about me not having to explain why things don’t happen...guess what, dip****, I’m not paid or employed or accountable to you or anyone else on this forum, so, with the greatest of respect, jog on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 The board are probably meeting to plan for the January transfer window and identify targets to fill obvious gaps in the squad. Does someone dare tell them they are a little bit too late? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 February, 2018 Share Posted 2 February, 2018 Slightly worrying if there is a long Board Meeting going on. Should take about 2 seconds.... You're Fired! 2 seconds to decide to fire him. A lot longer to decide on a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 February, 2018 Share Posted 2 February, 2018 The board are probably meeting to plan for the January transfer window and identify targets to fill obvious gaps in the squad. Does someone dare tell them they are a little bit too late? January 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 2 February, 2018 Share Posted 2 February, 2018 It's getting a bit much when we need ITKs yo tell us how ITK other ITKs are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 2 February, 2018 Share Posted 2 February, 2018 The Chinese chap clearly had a bet with a mate that he couldn't loose £100 million in less than a year by investing in a successful business he is clearly going to win the bet when he sells us to a Turkish llama farmer next tour for £50 million! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 February, 2018 Share Posted 2 February, 2018 I did email a Mod. I shared with him the information I had. He knows why it cannot be made public. Your turn of phrase about me not having to explain why things don’t happen...guess what, dip****, I’m not paid or employed or accountable to you or anyone else on this forum, so, with the greatest of respect, jog on.Tom. any idea what the board meeting was actually about.? We all obviously hope it was for the obvious.......! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 2 February, 2018 Share Posted 2 February, 2018 Probably just a meeting to celebrate a successful transfer window and pass out the VVD commission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 February, 2018 Share Posted 2 February, 2018 Probably just a meeting to celebrate a successful transfer window and pass out the VVD commissionhave you ever watched Below Decks? probably Les praising them all and passing round envelopes bundled with cash for their great work this window! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 2 February, 2018 Share Posted 2 February, 2018 I did email a Mod. I shared with him the information I had. He knows why it cannot be made public. Your turn of phrase about me not having to explain why things don’t happen...guess what, dip****, I’m not paid or employed or accountable to you or anyone else on this forum, so, with the greatest of respect, jog on. Hi Tom, Im happy to sponsor your full membership on SWF. Please get in touch with me or my assistant manager (assistant to the manager) MLG. Heisenberg X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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