When would you have pulled the trigger on Pellegrino?

[Bad Wolf]

Metaphorically of course, I'm not suggesting we have him murdered. When would you have sacked him if you were in charge?

 

After the Burnley game for me.

[saints1988]

Leicester home game

[vivasadio]

Leicester

[Saints foreva]

Burnley game.

[Batman]

October. it wad clear early on he was a chump.

 

 

he had to go after the Leicester game

Edited 1 February, 2018 by Batman

[kelkel31]

the moment he said in the press that nobody in the premier league plays with 2 up front and that he would not be using it for the forseable future and would continue with the same dross that had got Puel the sack at the end of the season was when i started to question him, this was probably october.

[Sheaf Saint]

Leicester home game

 

This. His approach to that game summed up the mistakes he had been making all season. He hasn't learned a damn thing since day 1.

[Pamplemousse]

The Leicester game for sure.

[aintforever]

Burnley

[DT]

Huddersfield at home. Writing was on the wall even then

[mrfahaji]

Well I put a bet on relegation after Burnley. Mainly because I thought the odds were too long given how poor we were, even though I didn't actually think we would go down.

 

But the fact that was even a consideration tells me that's when. But if not, then the apparently abysmal (I had the fortune of not seeing it) display against Leicester should have been the final straw. I started having doubts after Watford (H) in September though...

[Bridge]

Anybody could see right from the start that what he was doing wasn't great...but we just waited and waited to see if any improvements would happen. Personally if it was my train set to play with, I would have sacked him back in Nov after the Burnley game too! The style of football alone would have been enough to rid of him. The results have compounded it all. Utterly utterly terrible manager...I could not say one thing that he has brought to the club that has been a positive.

[Micky]

With hindsight West bloody Ham....

[Pilchards]

On his first interview with Les Reed.

Must of known then he was ****e?

[View From The Top]

I said to Ericb after the Huddersfield (A) game that he was such a negative, scared to lose above all else, manager that we should get rid there and then before it dragged us into real trouble.

 

The very latest they should have binned him was after Leicester.

 

Now it's too late and we are going to get relegated.

[Window Cleaner]

Before he got here. Bloke had no pedigree for the job and really appointing him was just a stupid, stupid act. No doubt driven by desperation and cheapness.

Edited 1 February, 2018 by Window Cleaner

[hypochondriac]

Leicester was the first game where I said without a doubt he should go. Subsequent games have just confirmed what we already knew.

[Seaford Saint]

After the Burnley game...I was so angry, I haven't been back. It's not the defeat and I stood by the team in their darkest hour. It was the manner of the defeat.

[SKD]

Initially it should have been after Liverpool humiliation and we should have brought in BFS to keep us up this season (it was clear at that point we'd be in relegation battle - at that point I assumed results would pick up or we'd get rid pretty urgently).

 

Then results picked up (a bit), but Leicester first half was the worst I can remember - Without a doubt should have gone by that point.

 

The final straw should have been the home defeat to Palace (02nd Jan) - Give the new man a window to get his players in.

 

Since that, after pretty much every game - unfortunately I think the narrow win at Fulham kept him in a job.

[saintwbu]

Genuinely, leaving the Swansea game on the opening day I was perplexed by everyone I could hear leaving the ground convincing themselves it was 'better than under Puel' despite the game having been almost identical to our worst performances under Puel. But in terms of when I felt he'd had the time to prove me wrong, I was happy for him to be sacked after Brighton away, where his idea of how football should be played became abundantly clear. beating Everton 4-1 was probably the worst thing that ever happened to us to be honest, as it gave the impression he might know what he's doing.

[SuperSAINT]

Leicester, without a doubt.

[davefoggy]

I'm still staggered that he remained employed after the home game against Leicester

[beatlesaint]

The very last straw should have been the mauling Tottenham gave us at Wembley on Boxing Day

[GGalpin]

First time I thought he could've been sacked was Burnley.

 

He had to go after Leicester.

[Micky]

After the Burnley game...I was so angry, I haven't been back. It's not the defeat and I stood by the team in their darkest hour. It was the manner of the defeat.

 

If you thought the Burnley game was bad (which it was) you should've seen the Watford (home) game, which was absolutely dire.

[alpine_saint]

How could any of you have moved on from that League Cup defeat against Wolves with a sense of ease ???

[Give it to Ron]

How could any of you have moved on from that League Cup defeat against Wolves with a sense of ease ???

 

I didn't and the sight of him sat on his haunches with glistening frightened rabbit in headlight eyes had me worried right from then..I have been going on about it since!

We had to give him a chance to settle and change it...he can't and is being the front for all the fans frustration and protecting the real culprits who will get away with it.

A decent man maybe but as for English football way out of his depth and too stubborn and stupid to change tactics...or is he the clever one? Will he get the chance to earn this much again? Good pay off when sacked.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

Leicester Home

[saints-cris]

Burnley game for me. I thought he would’ve been gone after Leicester, and every game since. Somehow though..

[OttawaSaint]

How could any of you have moved on from that League Cup defeat against Wolves with a sense of ease ???

 

Never thought that I'd agree with Alpine but that game really stuck with me as being astronomically poor and really worrying for a number of reasons.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Tempted after Burnley but by Leicester certainly.

[Saint Albert]

Probably Liverpool away but definitely Leicester.

 

It still amazes me that he’s still here.

[badgerx16]

Leicester

[Saint86]

In truth, my doubts were solidified following palace. But since the board were obviously not going to sack him I let myself believe he had promise.

 

With that in mind, I would have sacked him during the Brighton game. Maybe on reading the line up, and certainly at half time. Any one of us could have managed a better result than he did last night.

[Rebel]

Leciester

 

But I wouldn't have appointed him in the first place - a far worse track record than Puel. I would have stuck with Puel, moved a few players on and backed him in the summer transfer window - or appointed Marco Silva as the start of the summer and sacked Puel instead of dithering around all summer.

 

I'm not bothered about playing 2 up front - I just want us to play a formation and style that gets the best out of our squad. Pellegrino doesn't seem to have any idea how to.

[AK]

Leicester but if I'd bottled that then after Palace at the latest.

 

Be good if this site and The Echo ran a stay /go poll. A headline of 90+% of Saints Fan want MP to go, might be the nudge the Board need to act.

[Disco Stu]

I wish we stopped oppointing obscure managers and look into some real talent. It's not something you can skimp on evidently.

[sandwichsaint]

I've only been to one game this season - Palace away - and I posted then that rumours of our demise had been greatly exaggerated!

 

Lemina looked like the missing piece in the jigsaw, decent enough debut from Hoedt, Forster kept a rare clean sheet, Tadic was OK, Davis scored (!), unfortunately Redmond was full-Redmond that day but you can't have it all; it looked then like we had something to build on.

 

And the rest is history! Extraordinary that we can start a must-win game with our 4 biggest signings on the bench and playing a non-scoring striker and non-scoring midfield.

 

Utter shambles, he should have gone after Brighton away.

[Give it to Ron]

Is anyone brave enough to say he should stay...can you advise why you think that genuinely interested not having a pop at all.

[Window Cleaner]

I wish we stopped oppointing obscure managers and look into some real talent. It's not something you can skimp on evidently.

 

Persuading them to join the club is obviously a bit of a problem. Decent managers can be a bit choosy now cos there is a continual stream of jobs to pick from. Manager's jobs are like buses, if you miss one there be another along in a few minutes.

[aintforever]

At the very latest you need to get a new manager in at least a few weeks before the transfer window opens, give him time to assess the squad and allow a bit of time to see if there is a reaction from the players before you spend.

 

We've left it too long to attract anyone decent and give whoever we hire a decent chance of keeping us up. Plus we've just blown £19m on a mate of Pelligrinos. It's a complete clusterf@ck.

[Depressed of Shirley]

Augsburg in the pre-season friendly.

 

Joking aside though, there was enough in that home 0-4 defeat to make me think he didnt have a clue, but I convinced myself he was just trying to find the best system, players etc.

 

Now I know he doesn't have a clue still.

[S-Clarke]

Augsburg in the pre-season friendly.

 

Joking aside though, there was enough in that home 0-4 defeat to make me think he didnt have a clue, but I convinced myself he was just trying to find the best system, players etc.

 

Now I know he doesn't have a clue still.

 

Yeah that was a shocker, then we turned up and beat Sevilla in the following friendly.

 

The 0-2 to Wolves was a stinker though, given that it was in fact the reserves Wolves team. That did ring a couple of alarm bells for me.

[Batman]

the wolves game was a huge warning

 

I don't want to read back the post match reaction thread. probably the usual lot having a go at anyone raising concerns and telling us we are way too good to go down or be threatened by it

[once_bitterne]

the moment he said in the press that nobody in the premier league plays with 2 up front and that he would not be using it for the forseable future and would continue with the same dross that had got Puel the sack at the end of the season was when i started to question him, this was probably october.

 

That's one of the few things he got correct though. No one plays 4-4-2 in the PL anymore. When we were scoring for fun it was 4-3-3 with Mane, Pelle and Tadic up front. 4-4-2 means loss of MF and you'll never get the ball near the 2. I'm not sure why fans keep banging on about 2 up top. it's not 1998.

[Batman]

That's one of the few things he got correct though. No one plays 4-4-2 in the PL anymore. When we were scoring for fun it was 4-3-3 with Mane, Pelle and Tadic up front. 4-4-2 means loss of MF and you'll never get the ball near the 2. I'm not sure why fans keep banging on about 2 up top. it's not 1998.

plenty of teams play with players for closer to the main forward than we ever do these days.

[bazza]

After the home game v Burnley on 4th November, there was no sign of MP turning it round. I put a bet on at that stage on us going down.

[nta786]

Before he got here. Bloke had no pedigree for the job and really appointing him was just a stupid, stupid act. No doubt driven by desperation and cheapness.

 

I don’t think it was driven by desperation and cheapness- I think Les was so far up his a*se he wanted to bring an unknown quantity like we did with Pochettino.

 

I mean, think of the credit Les would have got had Pellegrino been amazing- and I think it is in this hope Reed is not firing Pellegrino, his arrogance can’t allow him to admit he got this appointment wrong and like all of us, is just hoping this guy will swing it around.

 

and to answer OP’s question- Leicester game- we had very winnable games in Huddersfield and Palace at home- got 1 out of 6.

[French Connection]

My son sacked him after 1 st league game and every other game has proved him right .... how could the club stick their fingers in their ears , sing lalalalala and let this state of affairs happen , so very sad for all concerned .

[Supersubpuckett]

First time I had serious doubts was after watford at home and I suggested that following de boers sacking at palace that he should be looking over his shoulder which raised a few eyebrows on here.

 

It was the Leicester game that well and truly confirmed it for me and I'm staggered he survived the utter embarrassment of the palace farce.

 

Too late now, I think the rot is set too deep and I get the impression the board are belligerently sticking with him.

 

The social media response has def rattled him though judging by his reference to emotional perspectives at today's press conference.