Bad Wolf Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Metaphorically of course, I'm not suggesting we have him murdered. When would you have sacked him if you were in charge? After the Burnley game for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints1988 Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Leicester home game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivasadio Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Burnley game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 (edited) October. it wad clear early on he was a chump. he had to go after the Leicester game Edited 1 February, 2018 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 the moment he said in the press that nobody in the premier league plays with 2 up front and that he would not be using it for the forseable future and would continue with the same dross that had got Puel the sack at the end of the season was when i started to question him, this was probably october. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Leicester home game This. His approach to that game summed up the mistakes he had been making all season. He hasn't learned a damn thing since day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 The Leicester game for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Burnley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Huddersfield at home. Writing was on the wall even then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Well I put a bet on relegation after Burnley. Mainly because I thought the odds were too long given how poor we were, even though I didn't actually think we would go down. But the fact that was even a consideration tells me that's when. But if not, then the apparently abysmal (I had the fortune of not seeing it) display against Leicester should have been the final straw. I started having doubts after Watford (H) in September though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Anybody could see right from the start that what he was doing wasn't great...but we just waited and waited to see if any improvements would happen. Personally if it was my train set to play with, I would have sacked him back in Nov after the Burnley game too! The style of football alone would have been enough to rid of him. The results have compounded it all. Utterly utterly terrible manager...I could not say one thing that he has brought to the club that has been a positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 With hindsight West bloody Ham.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 On his first interview with Les Reed. Must of known then he was ****e? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 I said to Ericb after the Huddersfield (A) game that he was such a negative, scared to lose above all else, manager that we should get rid there and then before it dragged us into real trouble. The very latest they should have binned him was after Leicester. Now it's too late and we are going to get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 (edited) Before he got here. Bloke had no pedigree for the job and really appointing him was just a stupid, stupid act. No doubt driven by desperation and cheapness. Edited 1 February, 2018 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Leicester was the first game where I said without a doubt he should go. Subsequent games have just confirmed what we already knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 After the Burnley game...I was so angry, I haven't been back. It's not the defeat and I stood by the team in their darkest hour. It was the manner of the defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Initially it should have been after Liverpool humiliation and we should have brought in BFS to keep us up this season (it was clear at that point we'd be in relegation battle - at that point I assumed results would pick up or we'd get rid pretty urgently). Then results picked up (a bit), but Leicester first half was the worst I can remember - Without a doubt should have gone by that point. The final straw should have been the home defeat to Palace (02nd Jan) - Give the new man a window to get his players in. Since that, after pretty much every game - unfortunately I think the narrow win at Fulham kept him in a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Genuinely, leaving the Swansea game on the opening day I was perplexed by everyone I could hear leaving the ground convincing themselves it was 'better than under Puel' despite the game having been almost identical to our worst performances under Puel. But in terms of when I felt he'd had the time to prove me wrong, I was happy for him to be sacked after Brighton away, where his idea of how football should be played became abundantly clear. beating Everton 4-1 was probably the worst thing that ever happened to us to be honest, as it gave the impression he might know what he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Leicester, without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 I'm still staggered that he remained employed after the home game against Leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 The very last straw should have been the mauling Tottenham gave us at Wembley on Boxing Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 First time I thought he could've been sacked was Burnley. He had to go after Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 After the Burnley game...I was so angry, I haven't been back. It's not the defeat and I stood by the team in their darkest hour. It was the manner of the defeat. If you thought the Burnley game was bad (which it was) you should've seen the Watford (home) game, which was absolutely dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 How could any of you have moved on from that League Cup defeat against Wolves with a sense of ease ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 How could any of you have moved on from that League Cup defeat against Wolves with a sense of ease ??? I didn't and the sight of him sat on his haunches with glistening frightened rabbit in headlight eyes had me worried right from then..I have been going on about it since! We had to give him a chance to settle and change it...he can't and is being the front for all the fans frustration and protecting the real culprits who will get away with it. A decent man maybe but as for English football way out of his depth and too stubborn and stupid to change tactics...or is he the clever one? Will he get the chance to earn this much again? Good pay off when sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Leicester Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Burnley game for me. I thought he would’ve been gone after Leicester, and every game since. Somehow though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 How could any of you have moved on from that League Cup defeat against Wolves with a sense of ease ??? Never thought that I'd agree with Alpine but that game really stuck with me as being astronomically poor and really worrying for a number of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Tempted after Burnley but by Leicester certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Probably Liverpool away but definitely Leicester. It still amazes me that he’s still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 In truth, my doubts were solidified following palace. But since the board were obviously not going to sack him I let myself believe he had promise. With that in mind, I would have sacked him during the Brighton game. Maybe on reading the line up, and certainly at half time. Any one of us could have managed a better result than he did last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Leciester But I wouldn't have appointed him in the first place - a far worse track record than Puel. I would have stuck with Puel, moved a few players on and backed him in the summer transfer window - or appointed Marco Silva as the start of the summer and sacked Puel instead of dithering around all summer. I'm not bothered about playing 2 up front - I just want us to play a formation and style that gets the best out of our squad. Pellegrino doesn't seem to have any idea how to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Leicester but if I'd bottled that then after Palace at the latest. Be good if this site and The Echo ran a stay /go poll. A headline of 90+% of Saints Fan want MP to go, might be the nudge the Board need to act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 I wish we stopped oppointing obscure managers and look into some real talent. It's not something you can skimp on evidently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 I've only been to one game this season - Palace away - and I posted then that rumours of our demise had been greatly exaggerated! Lemina looked like the missing piece in the jigsaw, decent enough debut from Hoedt, Forster kept a rare clean sheet, Tadic was OK, Davis scored (!), unfortunately Redmond was full-Redmond that day but you can't have it all; it looked then like we had something to build on. And the rest is history! Extraordinary that we can start a must-win game with our 4 biggest signings on the bench and playing a non-scoring striker and non-scoring midfield. Utter shambles, he should have gone after Brighton away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Is anyone brave enough to say he should stay...can you advise why you think that genuinely interested not having a pop at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 I wish we stopped oppointing obscure managers and look into some real talent. It's not something you can skimp on evidently. Persuading them to join the club is obviously a bit of a problem. Decent managers can be a bit choosy now cos there is a continual stream of jobs to pick from. Manager's jobs are like buses, if you miss one there be another along in a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 At the very latest you need to get a new manager in at least a few weeks before the transfer window opens, give him time to assess the squad and allow a bit of time to see if there is a reaction from the players before you spend. We've left it too long to attract anyone decent and give whoever we hire a decent chance of keeping us up. Plus we've just blown £19m on a mate of Pelligrinos. It's a complete clusterf@ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depressed of Shirley Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Augsburg in the pre-season friendly. Joking aside though, there was enough in that home 0-4 defeat to make me think he didnt have a clue, but I convinced myself he was just trying to find the best system, players etc. Now I know he doesn't have a clue still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Augsburg in the pre-season friendly. Joking aside though, there was enough in that home 0-4 defeat to make me think he didnt have a clue, but I convinced myself he was just trying to find the best system, players etc. Now I know he doesn't have a clue still. Yeah that was a shocker, then we turned up and beat Sevilla in the following friendly. The 0-2 to Wolves was a stinker though, given that it was in fact the reserves Wolves team. That did ring a couple of alarm bells for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 the wolves game was a huge warning I don't want to read back the post match reaction thread. probably the usual lot having a go at anyone raising concerns and telling us we are way too good to go down or be threatened by it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 the moment he said in the press that nobody in the premier league plays with 2 up front and that he would not be using it for the forseable future and would continue with the same dross that had got Puel the sack at the end of the season was when i started to question him, this was probably october. That's one of the few things he got correct though. No one plays 4-4-2 in the PL anymore. When we were scoring for fun it was 4-3-3 with Mane, Pelle and Tadic up front. 4-4-2 means loss of MF and you'll never get the ball near the 2. I'm not sure why fans keep banging on about 2 up top. it's not 1998. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 That's one of the few things he got correct though. No one plays 4-4-2 in the PL anymore. When we were scoring for fun it was 4-3-3 with Mane, Pelle and Tadic up front. 4-4-2 means loss of MF and you'll never get the ball near the 2. I'm not sure why fans keep banging on about 2 up top. it's not 1998.plenty of teams play with players for closer to the main forward than we ever do these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 After the home game v Burnley on 4th November, there was no sign of MP turning it round. I put a bet on at that stage on us going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 Before he got here. Bloke had no pedigree for the job and really appointing him was just a stupid, stupid act. No doubt driven by desperation and cheapness. I don’t think it was driven by desperation and cheapness- I think Les was so far up his a*se he wanted to bring an unknown quantity like we did with Pochettino. I mean, think of the credit Les would have got had Pellegrino been amazing- and I think it is in this hope Reed is not firing Pellegrino, his arrogance can’t allow him to admit he got this appointment wrong and like all of us, is just hoping this guy will swing it around. and to answer OP’s question- Leicester game- we had very winnable games in Huddersfield and Palace at home- got 1 out of 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Connection Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 My son sacked him after 1 st league game and every other game has proved him right .... how could the club stick their fingers in their ears , sing lalalalala and let this state of affairs happen , so very sad for all concerned . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 1 February, 2018 Share Posted 1 February, 2018 First time I had serious doubts was after watford at home and I suggested that following de boers sacking at palace that he should be looking over his shoulder which raised a few eyebrows on here. It was the Leicester game that well and truly confirmed it for me and I'm staggered he survived the utter embarrassment of the palace farce. Too late now, I think the rot is set too deep and I get the impression the board are belligerently sticking with him. The social media response has def rattled him though judging by his reference to emotional perspectives at today's press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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