Pilchards Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 I think it’s slowly coming out that certain players have become a problem at our club and this is why the board are giving Pellegrino plenty of chances to turn it around. We knew VVD was a **** and reports are suggesting that Redmond is another one. I know that Gabby is homesick and has probably been one that is showing less effort during training which might be the reason why he finds himself on the bench a lot. Is Lemina another one that is a problem? If this the new approach from MP to get those who want the best for the club in the team then let’s hope the results keep improving. Perhaps we might have a decent manager after all as Puel proved the problem was not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 Sounds like bad management to me, Puel's football was dull but he got results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 Why would you think Lemina is a problem ? Anyone who takes to social media to apologise for a poor personal performance doesn’t fit the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 Reports One poster has mentioned Redmond. It's spread like wild fire and now its fact. No evidence or suggestion anywhere about Lemina being an issue. Same with Gabbi really, his issue is he's not really contributed in the patches he has played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 29 January, 2018 Author Share Posted 29 January, 2018 Reports One poster has mentioned Redmond. It's spread like wild fire and now its fact. No evidence or suggestion anywhere about Lemina being an issue. Same with Gabbi really, his issue is he's not really contributed in the patches he has played. Reports are suggesting does not mean it’s a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 (edited) Why would you think Lemina is a problem ? Anyone who takes to social media to apologise for a poor personal performance doesn’t fit the bill. He’s black and has a fancy, uppity haircut, innit. If he had a short, back and sides like Des Walker, it would be a different matter. Tache is a definite plus, though. Edited 29 January, 2018 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 IF I was Lemina and fit I would be ****ed off too. He has spent a fair few games warming up not brought on. When he has played has been light years above Davis. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 IF I was Lemina and fit I would be ****ed off too. He has spent a fair few games warming up not brought on. When he has played has been light years above Davis. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 Can't see Lemina being an issue - had an ankle issue which seems to be easing thankfully. Gabbi rumour about being homesick but VVD was clearly well below his best, doing the minimum and Redmond's attitude on the pich was appalling. In any of of our workplaces (cue someone posting about how enjoyable their retirement is!), would you want to work with someone who behaves like that or even worse, have to manage them? Good that MP made a stand but I suspect if Sims was fit, it might have been made a lot earlier. Hoedt's attitude seems OK on the pitch but wasn't impressed with the social media antics when dropped - Davis should have had a word about that (squad has to self-manage occasionally as well) oir maybe he did? Despite predictions on here, Ryan's appeared much more engaged since VVD has gone. Could be a key senior player between now and May, and not just as a left back. We need leaders. Romeu starting to find some form at last, but I don't think his application has ever been under question. Tadic's has a bit, but played on the LEFT he's a different proposition. FFS Pellegrino, keep playing him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 Ryan's appeared much more engaged since VVD has gone. Massively so, he was on fire with Boufal on Saturday, so I was gutted when he was sat on the floor looking like it was game over. I think we're under a cloud of many factors, not just players attitude, but if we play well again against Brighton then VVD may well have been toxic to us since the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 Leminas a good lad. Only just regained his fitness. He will play on Wednesday. The players are a good bunch in general. Dressing room fine. Yup exactly what i've heard too, no idea where this Redmond crap has come from, by all accounts he's a good pro and liked in the dressing room. The only one's i've heard bad words against are Tadic, Bertrand and previously VVD. That plus Fonte acting the bell end to get his move. This place loves a scapegoat though and Redmond is the perfect fit for the usual bandwagon jumping. I find it pretty depressing how quickly a section of our support are to decide someone is a bad influence, the Puncheon stuff for example, when normally it's not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 (edited) Reports are suggesting does not mean it’s a fact. The Redmond story is nailed on true.There are no other dissenters even Fraser-Forster is taking his demotion like a man. Edited 29 January, 2018 by manji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 Sounds like bad management to me, Puel's football was dull but he got results. 46points to be precise. Hardly anything to hold up as an example of a successful season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfc Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 46points to be precise. Hardly anything to hold up as an example of a successful season. 46 points will get you well into the top half of the table at the end of this season? What do you expect and what do you consider successful? Automatic European qualification? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 Yup exactly what i've heard too, no idea where this Redmond crap has come from, by all accounts he's a good pro and liked in the dressing room. The only one's i've heard bad words against are Tadic, Bertrand and previously VVD. That plus Fonte acting the bell end to get his move. This place loves a scapegoat though and Redmond is the perfect fit for the usual bandwagon jumping. I find it pretty depressing how quickly a section of our support are to decide someone is a bad influence, the Puncheon stuff for example, when normally it's not true. Lines up with what I have been told. Tadic is just high maintenance and falls out with pretty much every manager, but from what I am led to believe Fonte was pretty much the main reason (he was the instigator) why the players turned on Puel last season. Bertrand was set to leave (i.e he wanted to go) by MP convinced him to stay. I'll be amazed if he is still here the start of next season (but apparently he isn't keen on moving, so would narrow is options - although money talks and I can't see him turning down City, personally). No idea about Redmond, but his attitude on the pitch isn't great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 46points to be precise. Hardly anything to hold up as an example of a successful season. Compared to what we have now it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 Yup exactly what i've heard too, no idea where this Redmond crap has come from, by all accounts he's a good pro and liked in the dressing room. The only one's i've heard bad words against are Tadic, Bertrand and previously VVD. That plus Fonte acting the bell end to get his move. This place loves a scapegoat though and Redmond is the perfect fit for the usual bandwagon jumping. I find it pretty depressing how quickly a section of our support are to decide someone is a bad influence, the Puncheon stuff for example, when normally it's not true. The Spurs game showed that the players are still playing for him IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 Compared to what we have now it is. Well yes but a sh*t sandwich doesn't make a mouldy cheese sandwich any better even if it is slightly more edible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 When the Pep thing was discussed on Sunday Supplement Henry Winter & 2 other journos (cant remember who they were) all agreed that Redmond is one of the nicest guys in the game. Said he was an intelligent approachable young man who was popular in the game. Doesn’t make him a better player, might not be true ( although why say it otherwise), but puts another perspective on the bloke. I get the feeling people desperately want him to be a twt because that suits their agenda. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 When the Pep thing was discussed on Sunday Supplement Henry Winter & 2 other journos (cant remember who they were) all agreed that Redmond is one of the nicest guys in the game. Said he was an intelligent approachable young man who was popular in the game. Doesn’t make him a better player, might not be true ( although why say it otherwise), but puts another perspective on the bloke. I get the feeling people desperately want him to be a twt because that suits their agenda. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkNah. I'm guessing some people are basing it on his seemingly stroppy attitude on the pitch. We don't know either way though clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 When the Pep thing was discussed on Sunday Supplement Henry Winter & 2 other journos (cant remember who they were) all agreed that Redmond is one of the nicest guys in the game. Said he was an intelligent approachable young man who was popular in the game. Doesn’t make him a better player, might not be true ( although why say it otherwise), but puts another perspective on the bloke. I get the feeling people desperately want him to be a twt because that suits their agenda. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk On Soccer AM with Charlie Austin Saturday they brought it up as well...it wasn't anything was his words and Pellegrino had a word with Redmond about it apparently. Mountains and molehills that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 Are reports suggesting, or is hearsay suggesting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 29 January, 2018 Share Posted 29 January, 2018 Puel's points per game record would have us 8th again in the current table. With the top clubs being collectively stronger than they have been for years it's going to be hard to get into the high 50s again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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