Billy the Kidd Posted 13 August, 2021 Share Posted 13 August, 2021 Bit like the way you post Charlie 😂 He is entitled to stay another year and leave on a free, up to him. Of course it would give us more money if he leaves, and maybe he will, I think with a proper run in another team he will improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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qwertyell Posted 18 August, 2021 Share Posted 18 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Both really good options for Obafemi - gets a season of regular first team minutes under his belt with the strong possibility of returning to the Premier League at the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 18 August, 2021 Author Share Posted 18 August, 2021 3 hours ago, qwertyell said: Both really good options for Obafemi - gets a season of regular first team minutes under his belt with the strong possibility of returning to the Premier League at the end of it. & both have decent money. I'm unsure if the rumoured £6m fee is legit or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 20 August, 2021 Share Posted 20 August, 2021 He doesn't want to leave to the Championship, or else he can't pick himself in FPL. Sounds like he prefers to stay. But maybe Ralph can find him a club he'll want to go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 20 August, 2021 Share Posted 20 August, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, the saint in winchester said: He doesn't want to leave to the Championship, or else he can't pick himself in FPL. Sounds like he prefers to stay. But maybe Ralph can find him a club he'll want to go to. He seems to have some not great influences around him if some of the prior comments by RH about fitness and focus are anything to go by. Blackburn would have been a good move for him - get away from the London social crowd, get his head down at a division below where he can work on composure etc under a good manager and score more frequently. Adam Armstrong and others have scored their way back into the PL so no reason he couldn’t with the right perspective. Raw pace which he certainly has can get you into decent opportunities to score at that level and less centre backs have speed. Edited 20 August, 2021 by saint1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Billy the Kidd Posted 31 August, 2021 Share Posted 31 August, 2021 What figure are the Swans paying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 31 August, 2021 Author Share Posted 31 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Billy the Kidd said: What figure are the Swans paying? Bet it’ll be around £2.5m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 31 August, 2021 Share Posted 31 August, 2021 11 minutes ago, Billy the Kidd said: What figure are the Swans paying? Asking price was rumoured to be around £6m when he was due to join Blackburn. Imagine it'll be less, though. Getting a chunky sell on clause is probably the bigger money spinner - a top season in the championship and Obafemi could move for decent money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 August, 2021 Share Posted 31 August, 2021 Swansea have got a bit of money to play with now, around £2.5m sell-on from the James deal and £2.5m for the left back they sold to Burnley. I reckon we'll get around the 4-5m mark for him. Good value, he only has 1 year left. I don't think he'll ever make it at this level and I don't think Ralph has ever been totally struck by him. Not sure if it leaves us light or not, probably not. We have Armstrong, Adams, Broja, Theo, Tella who can all play that central role. You could probably include long as well, but I don't want to. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 31 August, 2021 Share Posted 31 August, 2021 Obafemi medical ongoing. Providing it goes through, will be a permanent deal £1.5m rising to £2m so significantly less than #SaintsFC were asking for earlier in the window. Crook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 31 August, 2021 Share Posted 31 August, 2021 Understand why, but £1.5/2m would be a shame. I’d prefer him to either just stay at the club this year, or sign a new contract and go out on loan for the season, there is a good player in there, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 31 August, 2021 Share Posted 31 August, 2021 Surely there must be a buy back/% sell on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 31 August, 2021 Author Share Posted 31 August, 2021 43 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: Obafemi medical ongoing. Providing it goes through, will be a permanent deal £1.5m rising to £2m so significantly less than #SaintsFC were asking for earlier in the window. Crook The £6m was a myth, I believe. Blackburn fee that we agree was apparently way less than £6m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 31 August, 2021 Share Posted 31 August, 2021 Checking Over Land and Sea's spiffy contracts thread... and he was in his last season. Having been offered to Blackburn, and being dropped regulraly enough, I guess he wasn't going to sign. So a deadline day deal for whatever we could get. Can only hope for a sell on %. A Buy back is what Chelsea do for their feeder clubs, like....oh.... 🙂 Real were only minutes away from offering that £180m they had buring a hole in their pocket as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 31 August, 2021 Share Posted 31 August, 2021 We've gone beyond Obafemi, good luck to him, hope he does well but there's no way in for him here now, so he gets a new opportunity, we get him off the wage bill and a little cash, win win for all parties, well done Saints great window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 31 August, 2021 Share Posted 31 August, 2021 If they are paying 1.5 million rising to 2 million for a full international (which he is) who has played and scored in the Prem (which he has) then they’ve done well. Given what other players are going for Saints should have got at least £3.5 - 4.5 million for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 31 August, 2021 Share Posted 31 August, 2021 I'm OK with the £2 million fee. The principal bit of the deal will be getting a good sell on fee clause. If he's a hit at Swansea (and I believe he has the traits to be) then if we have a, say, 25% sell on clause he goes for, say, the Armstrong amount of £15 million, Then we'd be getting close to £3 million extra quid which would help in future transfer windows. I guess Long isn't going anywhere, so that effectively makes him the 4th choice striker this season behind Adams, Armstrong and Broja. (If you consider Tella, Walcott and Redmond as wingers/10s.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbendy Posted 31 August, 2021 Share Posted 31 August, 2021 If you look at the body language of some of the players in one of the behind-the-scenes pre-season videos it's pretty obvious that they found him irritating and unprofessional. I suspect Ralph did too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 31 August, 2021 Share Posted 31 August, 2021 1 hour ago, SNSUN said: I'm OK with the £2 million fee. The principal bit of the deal will be getting a good sell on fee clause. If he's a hit at Swansea (and I believe he has the traits to be) then if we have a, say, 25% sell on clause he goes for, say, the Armstrong amount of £15 million, Then we'd be getting close to £3 million extra quid which would help in future transfer windows. I guess Long isn't going anywhere, so that effectively makes him the 4th choice striker this season behind Adams, Armstrong and Broja. (If you consider Tella, Walcott and Redmond as wingers/10s.) We will never hear about him again, I'm sure of that. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 (edited) On 13/08/2021 at 20:29, Charlie Wayman said: He has no future here under Ralph so the best advise is for him to leave. Apart from running fast, where are his special talents? Bull in a china shop is how I see him. There you go then. Edited 1 September, 2021 by Charlie Wayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 Good luck to the lad. Definitely had pace and a bit of talent but injured far too often for a lad of his age and stories of unprofessionalism are never good. Would have been 7th choice for our striker role (Adams, Arma, Broja, Tella, Redmond, Walcott) so probably best for him he left, one year left on his contract £1.5-2m is a reasonable deal imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 Think it's a shame, but circumstance has meant this has happened. Maybe he'd have gone out to Swansea last Jan and bagged 10 goals, and come back with a but of fire in his belly, but unfortunately it hasn't happened for him here. Will be interesting to see how he gets on at Swansea. Wouldn't surprise me if he scored 10-15 for them this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 Good luck to him. Thanks for a very special goal against Chelsea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 Shame. I think he'll end up back in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 Would have thought Blackburn would have been a better move as Swansea seem a bit of a mess. There were flashes from him but think he needed to leave. If he knuckles down he could do well in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 20 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Good luck to him. Thanks for a very special goal against Chelsea. Him and Che were brilliant that day, lead a really good backs against the wall effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 16 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Shame. I think he'll end up back in the Prem. He may well do but he won't get to that level here. He needs a couple of seasons of regular football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 I’m not sorry to see him leave but I wish him well in whatever career he chooses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 29 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: He may well do but he won't get to that level here. He needs a couple of seasons of regular football. Agreed, I think that's a fair view. He needs to make a name for himself elsewhere and then maybe potentially become a PL player, being loaned out or playing for us as a bit part will never aid his development. Could end up being a case of right player, wrong time for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 2 hours ago, TWar said: Good luck to the lad. Definitely had pace and a bit of talent but injured far too often for a lad of his age and stories of unprofessionalism are never good. Would have been 7th choice for our striker role (Adams, Arma, Broja, Tella, Redmond, Walcott) so probably best for him he left, one year left on his contract £1.5-2m is a reasonable deal imo. Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 Has he not sent a love letter to the fans via social media ? Other players have been berated for their lack of love when leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 Shame. I thought he had something about him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 On 13/08/2021 at 20:29, Charlie Wayman said: He has no future here under Ralph so the best advise is for him to leave. Apart from running fast, where are his special talents? Bull in a china shop is how I see him. He post some funny dancing videos on Instagram. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 3 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Shame. I think he'll end up back in the Prem. I don’t think he will. He had the chance to kick on here but couldn’t keep himself fit and by all accounts spends more time in Buddha than on the pitch. Good player in there talent wise but not got the discipline to be a top player. Maybe he’ll mature a bit but I fully expect him to have an unremarkable career as a championship and league one player 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 I am just pleased that he has finally chosen to move on. Stuck here he would have been wasting his time and going nowhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 It makes you wounder what we see in Nlundulu (we just renewed his contract) when the guy is turning 23 soon and Obafemi just turned 21. Seems weird to give up on him and stick with Nlundulu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, stevy777_x said: It makes you wounder what we see in Nlundulu (we just renewed his contract) when the guy is turning 23 soon and Obafemi just turned 21. Seems weird to give up on him and stick with Nlundulu Could be that we were paying Obafemi much higher wages? ...and 2m smackeroons is not to be sneezed at! Doubt Dan has much value on the open market. Edited 1 September, 2021 by Charlie Wayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 1 hour ago, stevy777_x said: It makes you wounder what we see in Nlundulu (we just renewed his contract) when the guy is turning 23 soon and Obafemi just turned 21. Seems weird to give up on him and stick with Nlundulu I would imagine the logic/hope is that Dan bags a fair few for Lincoln this this season and we sell him for a similar fee next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 (edited) I think he could become our "Adam Armstrong". I rate him. For such a low fee, there must be a good sell-on clause. Edited 1 September, 2021 by Disco Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 Terrible fee, can’t help but think we really screw ourselves a lot of the time with players we get rid of. liverpool manage to palm their youngsters off on the likes of Bournemouth etc for 20m whilst we take 1.5 for. Oba if we didn’t rate him why was he keeping Adams out of the side at one stage.. hes not the finished article and it could go either way but he reminds me a bit of Antonio when he was with us and he hasn’t turned out bad. Decent deal for Swansea anyway cheap as chips for potential with pace and if he does a Adam Armstrong could be worth a lot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I think he could become our "Adam Armstrong". I rate him. For such a low fee, there must be a good sell-on clause. Perhaps, but their careers at international youth level are in no way comparable, if that's any guide Edited 1 September, 2021 by Ex Lion Tamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalCommunist Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 3 hours ago, stevy777_x said: It makes you wounder what we see in Nlundulu (we just renewed his contract) when the guy is turning 23 soon and Obafemi just turned 21. Seems weird to give up on him and stick with Nlundulu Agreed. MO has far bigger chance of making at the top level. But both need to take the lower path and fin their own way. Personally I don't think either will do much of note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 3 hours ago, stevy777_x said: It makes you wounder what we see in Nlundulu (we just renewed his contract) when the guy is turning 23 soon and Obafemi just turned 21. Seems weird to give up on him and stick with Nlundulu When NLundulu first came into the he team he looked like he had a bit about him. More of seen of him he just looks like a big lad with not a lot of ability. At 22 you’d expect him to have more of an impact than he has. Maybe a season on loan will do him good but another one I fear just not up to it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 Good luck Michael. I think your career will take off now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Terrible fee, can’t help but think we really screw ourselves a lot of the time with players we get rid of. liverpool manage to palm their youngsters off on the likes of Bournemouth etc for 20m whilst we take 1.5 for. Oba if we didn’t rate him why was he keeping Adams out of the side at one stage.. hes not the finished article and it could go either way but he reminds me a bit of Antonio when he was with us and he hasn’t turned out bad. Decent deal for Swansea anyway cheap as chips for potential with pace and if he does a Adam Armstrong could be worth a lot Come on, Antonio was a decent player when he was with us and far superior. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 Good luck Michael, always thought he was a top prospect. Scored some vital goals too - the one against Chelsea was a cracker 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 1 September, 2021 Share Posted 1 September, 2021 6 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: Could be that we were paying Obafemi much higher wages? ...and 2m smackeroons is not to be sneezed at! Doubt Dan has much value on the open market. I think that might be the main reason...DN wouldn't have attracted an offer, but may in the future, MO did. Obafemi always struck me as not quite good enough for the Prem, but certainly an asset for a Championship side. Fee seems low, even in these chastened times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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