Season stats on the O/S

[doddisalegend]

A lot of people have probably seen these but I only found them this morning. When you look at our season laid out in stats it makes bloody grim reading (no surprise I guess) but it highlights where we are going wrong so I thought I'd share for those who haven't seen them.

 

https://southamptonfc.com/first-team#season-stats

 

a few of the better/worse stats

 

24 goals this season (Harry Kane has 30 in all competitions this season alone)

 

our shots to goals conversion rate is a 11%

 

We've only won 46% of our aerial duels this season

 

we've only scored one goal from outside the box this season

 

any way worth a look if you want to get more fed up about this season.

Edited 28 January, 2018 by doddisalegend

[Heisenberg]

Yeah dont think it matters how you cut n slice this season.... Its been miserable.

 

Fa Cup final and top 10 still possible though.

[Micky]

Being one who prefers to focus on the positives I'll give that page a miss for now. Still plenty of time to turn those stats around.

 

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[Saint86]

A lot of people have probably seen these but I only found them this morning. When you look at our season laid out in stats it makes bloody grim reading (no surprise I guess) but it highlights where we are going wrong so I thought I'd share for those who haven't seen them.

 

https://southamptonfc.com/first-team#season-stats

 

a few of the better/worse stats

 

24 goals this season (Harry Kane has 30 in all competitions this season alone) - so strikers or tactics

 

our shots to goals conversion rate is a 11% - Therefore fault of the attacking players, probably not tactics...

We've only won 46% of our aerial duels this season - have to blame the physical player attributes for this - Les Reed/board/recruitment.

 

we've only scored one goal from outside the box this season - could be tactics, could be players. how does this compare to other teams?

 

any way worth a look if you want to get more fed up about this season.

 

Not sure what to make of these in summary!

Edited 28 January, 2018 by Saint86

[sotonjoe]

The ones picked out suggest individual players need to do better at what they are expected to do. This repeated mantra of Pellegrino being a tactical novice and being responsible for poor results looks less likely given the evidence presented.

 

 

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[Greedyfly]

The ones picked out suggest individual players need to do better at what they are expected to do. This repeated mantra of Pellegrino being a tactical novice and being responsible for poor results looks less likely given the evidence presented.

 

 

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I'd go and look at the stats at the previous clubs he's managed. They do suggest that he's culpable both here (although not entirely his fault) and elsewhere

[Saint86]

I'd go and look at the stats at the previous clubs he's managed. They do suggest that he's culpable both here (although not entirely his fault) and elsewhere

 

Is this your own opinion? Sorry to say that it sounds like it without actual evidence?

[Greedyfly]

Is this your own opinion? Sorry to say that it sounds like it without actual evidence?

 

How does it sound like my opinion? If it was an opinion piece I wouldn't have pointed you in the direction of his previous clubs for comparisons sake. Don't say things for the sake of saying them. Also, you have google, look them up for yourself before typing dopey replies.

 

Start with Alaves, the players he had on loan there, how many those players scored compared to the other teams around, compare those stats with the competitiveness of the league outside the top 2 or 3.

 

Then maybe work back to Argentina where his teams are far from prolific.

[Saint86]

How does it sound like my opinion? If it was an opinion piece I wouldn't have pointed you in the direction of his previous clubs for comparisons sake. Don't say things for the sake of saying them. Also, you have google, look them up for yourself before typing dopey replies.

 

Start with Alaves, the players he had on loan there, how many those players scored compared to the other teams around, compare those stats with the competitiveness of the league outside the top 2 or 3.

 

Then maybe work back to Argentina where his teams are far from prolific.

 

Don't get moody mate, you're stating facts you don't have. Then having an argument if I asked if you had the evidence. It was just a simple question over whether it was opinion or fact. Its opinion if you don't have the evidence to back it up. And I was curious about the data... instead i get some moody bell end having a go because I asked. Jesus.

 

He did very well with Alves so to slate him for that is strange.

Edited 28 January, 2018 by Saint86

[Greedyfly]

Don't get moody mate, you're stating facts you don't have. Then having an argument if I asked if you had the evidence. It was just a simple question over whether it was opinion or fact. Its opinion.

 

He did very well with Alves so to slate him for that is strange.

 

Firstly, I'll be as I please especially when I'm being called out by someone who clearly hasn't the first clue about what he's on about. Mate.

 

Secondly, I didn't state any 'facts' but suggested anyone not thinking MP was culpable should consider looking at his history to see that there's evidence to suggest he is in part (a large part - that's my opinion) to blame.

 

However, as you couldn't be bothered here's what I came up with; I have seen his Alaves team play on the odd occasion and they were as defensive and as boring as our current team, as highlighted by the FACT that they were the forth lowest scorers in La Liga last season. This is even more irritating when we were told that Saints fans were in for a treat with MP's appointment with MP himself believing we had a 'squad to play high intensity attacking football' (Reed's comments, not mine)when this evidence seemed to totally contradict that.

 

If you look at his Alaves first team and the most used players, 5 of them were loanees from Spain's top clubs and one from Italy (those were Hernandez, Deyverson, Camarasa, Llorente and Romero most of whom were there before he arrived before you scream 'stroke of genius on his part') many of which are highly rated by their clubs but are naturally behind the Ronaldo's, Modric's, Messi's of this world, so the notion that he did well at Alaves (9th) really should be replaced with 'should have done better'. It's not a tough league outside the top 3.

 

Also what else is telling is that Alaves's top scorer that season turned in a measly 7 goals...suggesting that it's not always the players but how the team is set up.

 

I've looked into his Argentinean clubs too but I'm not going to regurgitate them here as it's late and I'm struggling to work off a mobile, but as I've now given you some idea how to do it yourself, maybe you can do that part on your own. I can tell you they were far from impressive in a fairly noddy league.

[Dangermouth]

Don't get moody mate, you're stating facts you don't have. Then having an argument if I asked if you had the evidence. It was just a simple question over whether it was opinion or fact. Its opinion if you don't have the evidence to back it up. And I was curious about the data... instead i get some moody bell end having a go because I asked. Jesus.

 

He did very well with Alves so to slate him for that is strange.

 

Well his first post was quite explicit in that it referred to other things known and did indicate clearly that these were to form the basis of consideration so whoever s/he is I think they were right to say they'd said what was said which was enough. I cba to look at the stats before Alaves though and do wonder if MP is just someone who can learn to copy things but doesn't know anything actually and just repeats stuff which may or may not work despite his input. I guess we'll find out if he's still here next season as it should play out very differently from this regardless of which league we will be in.