Unbelievable Jeff Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 (Rumour quotient / number of interested clubs) * relative spending power * dodgy foreigner weighting + sfc social media posts = 60 - 65% Ah, I see. That's good, as I thought it was just arbitrary figure picked out of someones arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 We can't really blame Saints for this. If the Russians don't want to sell him then they won't, no matter what we say or do this end. We've made an offer, player appears to be willing to move but the Russians hold the nap hand. Personally I'm not sure buying a huge ego in is a sound move but I'm usually wrong anyway.Perhaps Heisenberg met them at Moscow airport and that put them off coming, after he gave them his in depth knowledge of football...only teasing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 At the end of the day is the risk of signing a 30M player too much when the chance of us going down is probably 70-75 probability at this moment. This time thursday morning the odds may have changed dramatically either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Perhaps Heisenberg met them at Moscow airport and that put them off coming, after he gave them his in depth knowledge of football...only teasing Thats nasty Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Thats nasty Nick. I did put only teasing, Ive had root canal treatment today so I need to take it out on someone lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Why? He's not really a similar player firstly. He likes to come off the wing with the ball at his feet rather than break lines and beyond defenders ala Promes and Mane. Secondly we're not the only team who haven't opted for him and he's been available more than once at least before. That's a fair point apart from Sisto being far more similar to Mane than Promes is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 It's a big leap in fee for us, we are going from signing players for £12 - 18 million to suddenly over £30 million. We are probably just doing an Arsenal, going in with like tiny increases on each offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 I did put only teasing, Ive had root canal treatment today so I need to take it out on someone lol What time was your appointment? 2:30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 What time was your appointment? 2:30?It was better 'tooth hurty' but I get your jist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 It was better 'tooth hurty' but I get your jist Get well soon nick. Promes signing announcement at 6pm will help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Still waiting Heisenberg, it has been 26 days now since the original offer! Did you photoshop this and spell Matthew incorrectly? Mods should be doing the honours soon buddy. Welcome to team Heisenberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Am I missing something here? 12 pages of speculation over this guy and NO mention (that I can find) of him in any of the gossip columns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Am I missing something here? 12 pages of speculation over this guy and NO mention (that I can find) of him in any of the gossip columns? You haven't looked very hard! There are multiple articles linking him with Saints over the past weeks in newspapers... plus Pellegrino has publicly confirmed the club's interest in Promes in press conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Am I missing something here? 12 pages of speculation over this guy and NO mention (that I can find) of him in any of the gossip columns? Yes, you're clearly missing your eyesight. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/southampton-transfer-news-quincy-promes-spartak-moscow-january-window-htmlhttp://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11226845/southampton-talks-to-sign-quincy-promes-from-spartak-moscow-ongoing http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/15902244.Saints_to__keep_pushing__for_Promes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 If the club are signing a replacement it is a sign they are willing to do business. Unfortunately these things always seem to drag on unless the buyer appears to overpay or the seller desperately needs the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Fair enough. I should probably add that my viewing is restricted to BBC sport and the Guardian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboze Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 But surely if they'd said "No, not under any circumstances", we wouldn't still be pursuing it right down to deadline day. If they're holding us to ransom, we should pay the ransom - much like we did with VVD. This, exactly stop messing about and get it done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 If we meet the release clause I don't see how Spartak have much of a say in it. Maybe we aren't bidding at a price to meet the clause. Just because there is one in the contract doesn't mean that is what he is worth. I believe Pique has one in his new contract for €440M, nobody would ever bid that for him though would they.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Fair enough. I should probably add that my viewing is restricted to BBC sport and the Guardian. Promes to Saints have been mentioned on the BBC gossip page multiple times in recent weeks. Plus the Guardian have mentioned Promes multiple times in conection with Saints... https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/24/southampton-deal-sign-guido-carrillo-monaco https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/27/southampton-watford-fa-cup-match-report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 WTF? There's a release clause? Who knew?!! I'm probably going to need to be a little less subtle next time eh? Going to have to start adding smillies...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Get well soon nick. Promes signing announcement at 6pm will help I will only believe that when CB Fry tells me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Fair enough. I should probably add that my viewing is restricted to BBC sport and the Guardian. Then stay away from the forum mate, this place is for experts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Then stay away from the forum mate, this place is for experts! Experts. Exactly. Ex - 'has been' / Spurt - 'drip under pressure'. loads of 'em on here...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Anyone got the feeling he's going to be paraded on the pitch before the game tomorrow night as our record new signing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Anyone got the feeling he's going to be paraded on the pitch before the game tomorrow night as our record new signing ? When was the last time we did that? I'm thinking Papa Wagio, in league 1, doing keepy ups in his white shirt and expensive Italian shoes before doing that weird goal celebration thing in front of the Northem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 When was the last time we did that? I'm thinking Papa Wagio, in league 1, doing keepy ups in his white shirt and expensive Italian shoes before doing that weird goal celebration thing in front of the Northem. Rudi Skacel! He signed on the pitch. We even got him a wonky wodden table to sit at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Positive me: We are leaking to the press that we won't pay more to put pressure on Spartak who are willing to all but want milk a few million more. Negative me: We won't/can't pay more and Spartak aren't interested in selling for the amount offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Rudi Skacel! He signed on the pitch. We even got him a wonky wodden table to sit at.That transfer took so long he started to sign before the game and finished just after full time.[emoji6] Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 (edited) When was the last time we did that? I'm thinking Papa Wagio, in league 1, doing keepy ups in his white shirt and expensive Italian shoes before doing that weird goal celebration thing in front of the Northem. Social media team has to get back to these production values. Gritty and lo-fi. Edited 30 January, 2018 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Summary here: http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-need-pay-close-e35m-want-transfer-done-wednesday/ So his release clause is €30m but an additional €4.5m is to the player, so €34.5m before wages are taken into effect. We want to pay no more than €27m, nearly €8m short of what it will take. If this is true, then surely its obvious we won't be suddenly adding a whole €8m to what we are offering until now before the end of tomorrow? Unless it changes very quickly then even logistically it will be nigh on impossible to complete such a big deal within a day. Virtually all the other big deals that have been talked about for a while, Aubameyang, Laporte, Moura etc are at much more advanced stages than still being millions of Euros apart. Massively unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Won’t be that difficult, personal terms already agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Social media team has to get back to these production values. Gritty and lo-fi. Some great memories looking back at that old youtube channel......and some not so great memories given that there are interviews from Mark Fry on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Summary here: http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-need-pay-close-e35m-want-transfer-done-wednesday/ So his release clause is €30m but an additional €4.5m is to the player, so €34.5m before wages are taken into effect. We want to pay no more than €27m, nearly €8m short of what it will take. If this is true, then surely its obvious we won't be suddenly adding a whole €8m to what we are offering until now before the end of tomorrow? Unless it changes very quickly then even logistically it will be nigh on impossible to complete such a big deal within a day. Virtually all the other big deals that have been talked about for a while, Aubameyang, Laporte, Moura etc are at much more advanced stages than still being millions of Euros apart. Massively unlikely. Nobody knows exactly what’s in the release clause but you can well imagine the clause is poorly drafted and doesn’t make explicit who pays the player’s 15%. Otherwise I can’t think why Saints would still be offering less than the trigger of 30m a day before the window closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Anyone got the feeling he's going to be paraded on the pitch before the game tomorrow night as our record new signing ? yeah. Personally I think the deal is all done and dusted, it's just the final editing of the unveil video that's taking longer than expected. Maybe Promes didn't like the drawn version of himself and it had to be reworked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Won’t be that difficult, personal terms already agreed Schurrle that can't be right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 (edited) Summary here: http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-need-pay-close-e35m-want-transfer-done-wednesday/ So his release clause is €30m but an additional €4.5m is to the player, so €34.5m before wages are taken into effect. We want to pay no more than €27m, nearly €8m short of what it will take. If this is true, then surely its obvious we won't be suddenly adding a whole €8m to what we are offering until now before the end of tomorrow? Unless it changes very quickly then even logistically it will be nigh on impossible to complete such a big deal within a day. Virtually all the other big deals that have been talked about for a while, Aubameyang, Laporte, Moura etc are at much more advanced stages than still being millions of Euros apart. Massively unlikely. Isn't there a massive flaw in that logic? Promes' contract is with Spartak, not with Southampton. So he is owed 15% of whatever money they receive. If they receive €30m, presumably they have to accept and pay the player out of those funds. I can't see how Promes can possibly have a contract where the buying club have to pay him 15% of the transfer fee, because that contract would be between him and all non-Spartak clubs. It's possible that his release clause is actually higher than €30m to allow for the 15% fee, but surely (?) there's no way Southampton would be obliged to make some sort of additional payment on top. Edited 30 January, 2018 by mrfahaji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 i'd take Schurrle over promes at least he is proven in the prem £30 million is a massive risk could end up with Depay....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Isn't there a massive flaw in that logic? Promes' contract is with Spartak, not with Southampton. So he is owed 15% of whatever money they receive. If they receive €30m, presumably they have to accept and pay the player out of those funds. I can't see how Promes can possibly have a contract where the buying club have to pay him 15% of the transfer fee, because that contract would be between him and all non-Spartak clubs. It's possible that his release clause is actually higher than €30m to allow for the 15% fee, but surely (?) there's no way Southampton would be obliged to make some sort of additional payment on top. It's also entirely possible that Spartak will agree to let him go for less than the amount specified in the release clause if they feel that it's still a good deal for them and the player makes it clear he wants to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 (edited) It's also entirely possible that Spartak will agree to let him go for less than the amount specified in the release clause if they feel that it's still a good deal for them and the player makes it clear he wants to go. As if a release clause for a player in a Russian club would be in euros anyway. All of the figures bandied about are pure guesswork. Edited 30 January, 2018 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 As if a release clause for a player in a Russian club would be in euros anyway. All of the figures bandied about are pure guesswork. Euros are a pretty strong currency not sure about the rouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 On SSN now: Southampton have £25m bid for Quincy Promes rejected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 On SSN now: Southampton have £25m bid for Quincy Promes rejectedSimilar price to Walcott then. I wonder if we will increase that now or not? You would think they would have to if they want to keep some credibility and not push the fans to riot level later in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Stop ****ing about, the fans are already ****ed off as it is. If we miss out on this by a few million then the board really are a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Schurrle that can't be right? Also agreed with Schurrle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 On SSN now: Southampton have £25m bid for Quincy Promes rejected So that's about 28.5 million euros then or nigh on 2 billion roubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 I'm sure the magical black box has a long list of other targets we could get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Seriously, pay the extra. If we miss out on Promes I’ll be fuming. The player wants to come and personal terms are sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Similar price to Walcott then. I wonder if we will increase that now or not? You would think they would have to if they want to keep some credibility and not push the fans to riot level later in the season. It is a case of push until deadline day and hang on for best price, i suspect we will get him for 26 -27m Riot! Bit over dramatic TBF, no one is going to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 Seriously, pay the extra. If we miss out on Promes I’ll be fuming. The player wants to come and personal terms are sorted. Why are you saying this as if you have any idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 30 January, 2018 Share Posted 30 January, 2018 I wouldn't pay that amount for him............... unproven at prem level could be gash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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