whoateallthepies Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Literally nobody can or will argue with you. Literally nobody can prove if that would be the case or not. If only we still had Channon, Keegan blah blah
SW5 SAINT Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 I’m not willing to assume Les & Co are capable of engaging in any kind of forward planning or even rational assessment of what’s going on at the moment. If, and it’s a big if, we sack Pell I’d be willing to bet we go into the Brighton game with Kelvin in caretaker charge which is another utterly unthinkable situation. What a mess. I think the case with Les & Co is that they are like rabbits caught in the glare of headlights.......
Topcat Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Thought for the Day? The previous time we had a Chairman who had played hockey and not much football was Rupert Lowe.
Topcat Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 I think the case with Les & Co is that they are like rabbits caught in the glare of headlights....... Yes and Les is soon going off to give his wisdom to the League Managers Association!
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 (edited) Yes and Les is soon going off to give his wisdom to the League Managers Association! Why don’t you go instead? I’m sure they’ll be impressed with your knowledge of the game. All the experts on here claiming Les is clueless or some sort of ****ing idiot should ask themselves why the LMA invited him. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Edited 20 January, 2018 by Lord Duckhunter
simo Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Why don’t you go instead? I’m sure they’ll be impressed with your knowledge of the game. All the experts on here claiming Les is clueless or some sort of ****ing idiot should ask themselves why the LMA invited him. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk The Lma obviously want to know how you destroy the work of the guy who had the job before you in less than 4 years !
Topcat Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Why don’t you go instead? I’m sure they’ll be impressed with your knowledge of the game. All the experts on here claiming Les is clueless or some sort of ****ing idiot should ask themselves why the LMA invited him. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Judge him on his record. Les has the shining record of hiring a foreign manager who turns in the worst winning record of any permanent Saints Manager in any division. He was also rated by Charlton supporters as their worst Manager.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Judge him on his record. Les has the shining record of hiring a foreign manager who turns in the worst winning record of any permanent Saints Manager in any division. He was also rated by Charlton supporters as their worst Manager. Is that his record, employing Pell and managing Charlton? That’s it? How can you lecture anyone on judging people on their record, when you haven’t done so. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Micky Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Puel must be feeling a bit edgy. As things stand Leicester are 8th.All he needs to do now is get them to a cup final and he'll be on par with his pi ss poor performance of last season. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk
Micky Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 We are due a lucky win. It could save the season! We used that card against West Ham. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk
Micky Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 He wasn’t at fault for the Stoke goals, but still Huddersfield’s keeper could possess the unique attribute of being worse than Fraser Forster.I thought he was bad when we played them at SMS, but we just didn't take advantage, never tested him at all. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk
Micky Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Leicester 7th now. No doubt the clowns on here will claim he’s inherited a top 6 side. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Top 6 and cup winning...! Get it right ffs. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk
Bad Wolf Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Even though we haven't played today it feels like we've lost.
LGTL Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Even though we haven't played today it feels like we've lost. Just give it 24 hours and we will have done.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Even though we haven't played today it feels like we've lost. Why? It was impossible for Stoke , Huddersfield, Boscombe & West Ham to all get 0 points today . The only result that could have gone the other way was WBA getting a point, but they’re still below us. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
cloggy saint Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 All in all a good day's results even if (when) we lose tomorrow.
CB Fry Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Even a draw, which feels like the optimal result, would see us in the bottom 3 which has got to be sacking offence, surely? Surely?
stknowle Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Even a draw, which feels like the optimal result, would see us in the bottom 3 which has got to be sacking offence, surely? Surely? You'd like to think so Fry
Heisenberg Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Leicester 7th now. No doubt the clowns on here will claim he’s inherited a top 6 side. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Top 6? He inherited a club that won the league 18 months ago and were in a champions league quarter final less than a year ago.
Jonnyboy Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Top 6? He inherited a club that won the league 18 months ago and were in a champions league quarter final less than a year ago. And were bottom three when he came in.
Heisenberg Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 And were bottom three when he came in. And should have been nowhere near it. Hence the quick sacking of the manager. Everton and Leicester have by far the best squads outside top 6.
simo Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 And were bottom three when he came in. The same position he left our club in the form table !
Jonnyboy Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 The same position he left our club in the form table ! Better than now then!
Jonnyboy Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 And should have been nowhere near it. Hence the quick sacking of the manager. Everton and Leicester have by far the best squads outside top 6. What about our squad? Id say about 10th especially considering we had the world's most expensive defender up until recently.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Claude Puel set for Leicester talks https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=3658&share_tid=58859&share_pid=2546512&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esaintsweb%2Eco%2Euk%2Fshowpost%2Ephp%3Fp%3D2546512&share_type=t Some clown thought they were nailed on for relegation once Puel was appointed. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
CB Fry Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 And were bottom three when he came in.Weird how little momentum they had from winning the league. I thought momentum lasted, like, for seasons and seasons and seasons.
Saints foreva Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Claude Puel set for Leicester talks https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=3658&share_tid=58859&share_pid=2546512&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esaintsweb%2Eco%2Euk%2Fshowpost%2Ephp%3Fp%3D2546512&share_type=t Some clown thought they were nailed on for relegation once Puel was appointed. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk No doubt you still think Claude was sacked because of fans....
Heisenberg Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Weird how little momentum they had from winning the league. I thought momentum lasted, like, for seasons and seasons and seasons. League 1 > championship > premier league > premier league winners Looks like there definition of a momentum curve to me. Trick is stopping the decline path they are now on.
CB Fry Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 League 1 > championship > premier league > premier league winners Looks like there definition of a momentum curve to me. Trick is stopping the decline path they are now on.12th is part of the top 10 in the Premier League now? I always thought it only included the top ten teams but right you are.
Junior Mullet Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 League 1 > championship > premier league > premier league winners Looks like there definition of a momentum curve to me. Trick is stopping the decline path they are now on. Interesting that. I was thinking about momentum earlier and how important it is in football. Both during the course of a game and longer term such as a month, a season, several years etc. MP has been slow to react to downward momentum in games this season. On a larger scale, the club have failed to stop the rot since Koeman left.
Heisenberg Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 Interesting that. I was thinking about momentum earlier and how important it is in football. Both during the course of a game and longer term such as a month, a season, several years etc. MP has been slow to react to downward momentum in games this season. On a larger scale, the club have failed to stop the rot since Koeman left. I posted about the complacency trap when Reed was appointed and the almost immediate loss of Lallana, Lovren, Lambert, Shaw, Chambers and Pochettino confirmed my worries. The drop was never going to be instant due to the momentum force Cortese built.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 No doubt you still think Claude was sacked because of fans.... It clearly played a part, only a fool would deny that. Let’s look at it from another angle. If every supporter agreed with me and the few who thought he did a good job, and therefore got behind him, would he have been sacked? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Pamplemousse Posted 20 January, 2018 Posted 20 January, 2018 League 1 > championship > premier league > premier league winners Looks like there definition of a momentum curve to me. Trick is stopping the decline path they are now on. I must have missed Leicester in the semi-finals... It's odd that you keep running with this, Puel just schooled forum favourite Silva and Leicester fans think Puel is the dog's ********. You just need to let it go mate, he's gone on to bigger and better things, unfortunately for us.
CB Fry Posted 21 January, 2018 Posted 21 January, 2018 (edited) I posted about the complacency trap when Reed was appointed and the almost immediate loss of Lallana, Lovren, Lambert, Shaw, Chambers and Pochettino confirmed my worries. The drop was never going to be instant due to the momentum force Cortese built. Southampton Football Club are the only football club in the world who secured their highest top flight finish in 30 years by being complacent. Although presumably Burnley are being complacent now and Leicester were complacent from the second Claudio Ranieri walked in the door. And of course no one on earth uses a bell curve as a performance forecasting tool but if you think we will definitely be back in League One for the start of the 2019-20 season as you have now repeatedly predicted with some authority with your chart then fair play for sticking by your guns. This truly is wonderful stuff. Personally I think you were on stronger ground when you used to do your routine about how Stoke had always been and always would be a bigger club that was a level above Southampton. After they've failed to finish above us for the multiple seasons since you started saying it you don't mention it so much these days. You're still right though, right? Edited 21 January, 2018 by CB Fry
Heisenberg Posted 21 January, 2018 Posted 21 January, 2018 CB fry triggered by the the momentum curve :lol: Dont shoot the messenger buddy #WeMarchOn
CB Fry Posted 21 January, 2018 Posted 21 January, 2018 CB fry triggered by the the momentum curve [emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38] Dont shoot the messenger buddy #WeMarchOnOkay sweetheart. Really, I was just reflecting on how Les Reed and Ralph took us from strength to strength to strength since Jan 2014. It's tricky now sure but no other leadership team has ever got us anywhere near the heights they took us to in the Prem era, so let's hope they can pull it round. Because you want that too, right?
shurlock Posted 21 January, 2018 Posted 21 January, 2018 CB fry triggered by the the momentum curve :lol: Dont shoot the messenger buddy #WeMarchOn Great graph. You might want to put a question mark at end of the red line with Reed's name to indicate uncertainty over both his tenure and the trajectory of the curve. Can see quite you getting a few requests, asking for permission to reproduce the graph. Would make a powerful avatar.
hypochondriac Posted 21 January, 2018 Posted 21 January, 2018 I posted about the complacency trap when Reed was appointed and the almost immediate loss of Lallana, Lovren, Lambert, Shaw, Chambers and Pochettino confirmed my worries. The drop was never going to be instant due to the momentum force Cortese built. Ha! Haven't replied to you in a few years because obvious troll is obvious but that's pretty amusing. You go to a hell of a lot of effort for this!
East Kent Saint Posted 21 January, 2018 Posted 21 January, 2018 Momentum didn't last long for Derby , Ipswich , Blackburn etc after doing well in Div one days , perhaps they were never going to be big clubs ? of course individuals obtain their goal of winning F1 championship or Wimbledon etc then fade or retire .
Topcat Posted 21 January, 2018 Posted 21 January, 2018 We used that card against West Ham. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk That was a long time ago. Since then we had the handball go against us.
adrian lord Posted 21 January, 2018 Posted 21 January, 2018 I posted about the complacency trap when Reed was appointed and the almost immediate loss of Lallana, Lovren, Lambert, Shaw, Chambers and Pochettino confirmed my worries. The drop was never going to be instant due to the momentum force Cortese built. Utter eyewash graph but very amusing. Good stuff.
Micky Posted 21 January, 2018 Posted 21 January, 2018 Listen, if you want to know about complacency you need to speak to Dalek. Did you know that for years, no really, years, he has been warn.... Anyway, I'm sure if you want to know more he'll be happy to drone on for a few more years. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk
OttawaSaint Posted 22 January, 2018 Posted 22 January, 2018 FFS! ****ing victims. Went to Liverpool to win things eh Virg? Try beating lowly Swansea...****!
Pamplemousse Posted 22 January, 2018 Posted 22 January, 2018 Quite funny really. Swansea can’t go above us today so not too concerned if they win. There are only 6 points separating the top half from the bottom as it stands!
SNSUN Posted 22 January, 2018 Posted 22 January, 2018 Safety first for me - I hate Liverpool more than any other team but the sooner the relegation spots get filled up the better. I'm not going to say I want Liverpool to win tonight, more that I want Swansea to lose. (Nothing against Swansea of course!) If Swansea do win then what's done is done, then I can laugh about Liverpool's crapness. A draw would be OK too I suppose.
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