The club have held contingency meetings about Championship Football

[Monk]

Horrified to have been told that 'meetings & discussions' have been 'allegedly' held internally with regards to potential relegation and what it would mean for departments in the club.

 

From an ex-colleague who works with a head of department at Saints.

[whelk]

Horrified to have been told that 'meetings & discussions' have been 'allegedly' held internally with regards to potential relegation and what it would mean for departments in the club.

 

From an ex-colleague who works with a head of department at Saints.

 

Why wouldn’t they? Be more horrified that it would catch them out

[doddisalegend]

Why are you horrified? Its looking a distinct possibility far worse if they didn't plan for it.

[hypochondriac]

I'd be surprised if they hadn't done that at this point.

[SOTONS EAST SIDE]

I'm more horrified, these clowns are not doing anything to stop it!... 13 Days in and no players signed. Trying to appease us with TW, aint gonna work. As long marcel marceau is still the manager!!

[davefoggy]

So that's it then. The powers that be are happy to be relegated. Why don't they just sack the ****ing **** and we might just stay up. Clueless

[S-Clarke]

Starting to wonder if they're close to just accepting it.

 

But that on it's own hisn't horrifying, it would be crazy if we weren't.

[Saint in Paradise]

So they are planning for the Championship already...wouldn't it be better to start planning how to actually stay up and

then act on those plans NOW rather than just drift along??? Mind you this is what "Small Clubs" do so we shouldn't

perhaps be that surprised?.

[aintforever]

They are bound to have meetings discussing it as it is quite likely now that we’re going down. I expect it will just be to discuss job losses in unimportant departments like marketing. It doesn’t mean the players have accepted it is inevitable.

[Wes Tender]

Still, look on the bright side; we can Nigel back. Preferably Adkins, but Pearson would be better than this clown too.

[Pilchards]

They are bound to have meetings discussing it as it is quite likely now that were going down. I expect it will just be to discuss job losses in unimportant departments like marketing. It doesn’t mean the players have accepted it is inevitable.

 

It must be sickening being an employee knowing that you are relying on a clown to save your job.

[qwertyell]

Might have been a better idea to have held contingency meetings about Premier League football last summer...

 

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[beatlesaint]

At least they haven’t buried their heads so far in the sand that they aren’t even contemplating it could happen.

Perhaps they could act to try and stop it happening !

[Micky]

To be fair, it's probably one of the more prudent actions that they have conducted all season.

 

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[Yorkshire Saint]

No **** Sherlock

[BotleySaint]

Good to hear the club finally accepting we are heading down if this continues. Odd that no action has been taken to try and prevent it from happening.

[Jack]

I hear that the meeting consisted of asking around to see who’s still got George Burley’s number.

[Pilchards]

I’m hoping our new signings are allowed to attend these meetings too.

[Badger]

Good to hear the club finally accepting we are heading down if this continues. Odd that no action has been taken to try and prevent it from happening.

 

I can't believe (or perhaps don't want to believe) that they haven't discussed something, or sounded out alternatives. It's probably just putting it in place that takes the time (but this is the Les Reed who was relaxed about the Toby signing, and the Koeman contract talks).

[Saint Albert]

It seems like a prudent thing to do. Hopefully they had a contingency meeting about finding a replacement for Pellegrino, as well.

[DuncanRG]

You've got to be pretty thick to see this as an acceptance that we're going down.

[Whitey Grandad]

The thought of this nincompoop in charge of us in the Championship is truly depressing.

[Lord Duckhunter]

You've got to be pretty thick to see this as an acceptance that we're going down.

 

Or have an agenda

 

 

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[saint1977]

Would be normal part of the planning process including if we were within 8 points or less of the drop zone at this time of year. Didn’t Lowe and the board do some analysis in 04/05 that we could break even on 23k gates and model against other clubs relegated in the preceding 2 years?

 

Club would be lucky to get even half that this time - 04/05 was exciting, in a bad way, but rarely dull. We’ve had 18 months of dreadful football and PR nonsense recently from Kreuger and Reed. Who wants to spend hard earned money on that.

[benjii]

Yeah. Makes sense. There's things to get annoyed about and this isn't one of them.

[CB Fry]

Certainly not horrified because yeah fine it shows sensible, normal planning behaviour in the circumstances etc etc.

 

But if prefer to hear rumours that we are trying to do whatever it takes to stay up, it's a shame we aren't hearing about meetings like that. Meetings about sacking the manager or meetings about a signing to excite people, Theo or someone else. Meeting about what course correction we need to action to not go down.

 

If we have already shifted into preservation/conservation mode and the types of behaviour that drives then yes we've fuc king had it.

 

Nigel Quashie me right up.

[saintant]

Wouldn't be surprised if the Van Dyke transfer money is being held back or any signings will be made on the basis that we expect to be relegated. Not sure the owners are going to risk big money signings and wages at this stage. If we manage to scrape out of it they might loosen the purse strings but as things stand I'm not expecting any marquee signings.

[saint1977]

Certainly not horrified because yeah fine it shows sensible, normal planning behaviour in the circumstances etc etc.

 

But if prefer to hear rumours that we are trying to do whatever it takes to stay up, it's a shame we aren't hearing about meetings like that. Meetings about sacking the manager or meetings about a signing to excite people, Theo or someone else. Meeting about what course correction we need to action to not go down.

 

If we have already shifted into preservation/conservation mode and the types of behaviour that drives then yes we've fuc king had it.

 

Nigel Quashie me right up.

 

Totally agree with this CB, the fact they are planning for the worst case scenario is perfectly normal and responsible business practice. What is getting the reaction is the absence as you say of any sense the board are coming up with an urgent business case for this window to find a Henri Camara - rather than a Bernard or Davenport - and have an experienced manager ready straight away. We are now mid Jan and if you were thinking of joining the club, would you do so with no manager in the latter half of the window? Astonishing from Reed, I think he has some kind of illness around making swift decisions. Owner seems horrifically out of his depth.

[washsaint]

Unbelievable that they did not wake up and smell the coffee weeks ago that this clown will take us down. It has been patently obvious as far back as the Wolves game that he is utterly f****** clueless - I have never seen such a negative, clueless manager: and I include Branfoot, Wigley, Gray and Burley in that list.

[saint1977]

Unbelievable that they did not wake up and smell the coffee weeks ago that this clown will take us down. It has been patently obvious as far back as the Wolves game that he is utterly f****** clueless - I have never seen such a negative, clueless manager: and I include Branfoot, Wigley, Gray and Burley in that list.

I agree except I still don’t think they have smelt anything coffee or otherwise. The BS from Kreuger and Reed in the press certainly stinks though :-)

[Saint86]

Certainly not horrified because yeah fine it shows sensible, normal planning behaviour in the circumstances etc etc.

 

But if prefer to hear rumours that we are trying to do whatever it takes to stay up, it's a shame we aren't hearing about meetings like that. Meetings about sacking the manager or meetings about a signing to excite people, Theo or someone else. Meeting about what course correction we need to action to not go down.

 

If we have already shifted into preservation/conservation mode and the types of behaviour that drives then yes we've fuc king had it.

 

Nigel Quashie me right up.

 

Agreed.

[Saint-Fred]

Of course it's the sensible action to take.

probably would have decided that it's also sensible to tell Theo he has to have a relegation clause which halves his wages if we do go down.

[doddisalegend]

I bet the players are planning for it to most of them are probably telling their agents to get a summer move sorted ....

[Bad Wolf]

I'd be worried if they wern't. Every club bar last season's top seven should probably be having these meetings every year. It's always libel to happen.

[Mr Saints]

As long as the next meeting is tonight and ends with them deciding to sack our inept **** of a manager, then we might get away not having to put the contingency plans into place.

[supersonic]

2 clean sheets in 18 league games is abysmal.

[Suhari]

2 clean sheets in 18 league games is abysmal.

 

Particularly for such a defensive manager!

[Saint in Paradise]

It must be sickening being an employee knowing that you are relying on a clown to save your job.

 

Ah but when you are employed by a circus the clowns are very important in regard to your fate.

[shurlock]

Dressing scruffily and having untidy hair does not convey an attitude of good preparation

 

Les Reed (2004), The Official FA Guide to Basic Team Coaching, Hodder and Stoughton

[Micky]

I bet the players are planning for it to most of them are probably telling their agents to get a summer move sorted ....

Again we may not like it, but it's probably pretty much standard practice for both players and agents when it gets to the business end of the season. Looking after number one and all that.

 

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[Toon Saint]

Les Reed (2004), The Official FA Guide to Basic Team Coaching, Hodder and Stoughton

 

Ah, that's why Gabbiadini isn't starting then.

[Dalek2003]

Unbelievable that they did not wake up and smell the coffee weeks ago that this clown will take us down. It has been patently obvious as far back as the Wolves game that he is utterly f****** clueless - I have never seen such a negative, clueless manager: and I include Branfoot, Wigley, Gray and Burley in that list.

 

Complacency, arrogance, lack of urgency, indecision, dithering, doing things on the cheap....I have been warning of it creeping in over the last 2 to 3 years.

 

It's no surprise to find us in this position. Now I think it is almost better to go down, holding back VVD money. Clear the dross and rebuild again.

[davefoggy]

Complacency, arrogance, lack of urgency, indecision, dithering, doing things on the cheap....I have been warning of it creeping in over the last 2 to 3 years.

 

It's no surprise to find us in this position. Now I think it is almost better to go down, holding back VVD money. Clear the dross and rebuild again.

 

Yup, agree. Lets clear out and re-build. Find players that want to wear the shirt

[Ultimatt]

I wonder if the board are included in potential layoffs from relegation? They're the ones that have got us into this mess so quickly. Looking at that team sheet tonight it was telling how poor we're been in the transfer market the last 18 months. So many good players gone and the ones we've brought in have all failed to lock down a place, spending more time benched than playing.