Wade Garrett Posted 9 January, 2018 Posted 9 January, 2018 Wenger does this all the time. Theo needs to tell Wenger he wants out, this month, not be distracted by suggestions of more game time in future. Very true. I remember Walcott saying he wanted to play down the middle when he signed his last contract. Wenger played him there a few times, Walcott signed his deal, then Wenger f*cked him off out of it.
maysie Posted 9 January, 2018 Posted 9 January, 2018 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5251821/amp/Everton-favourites-sign-Arsenals-Theo-Walcott-20m.html?__twitter_impression=true
hypochondriac Posted 9 January, 2018 Posted 9 January, 2018 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5251821/amp/Everton-favourites-sign-Arsenals-Theo-Walcott-20m.html?__twitter_impression=trueAh well. If he goes there he isn't worth £110,000 a week anyway.
the saint in winchester Posted 10 January, 2018 Posted 10 January, 2018 We seem to be relying on the part about him (potentially) not wanting to uproot his family from the south. Is he still living around Berkshire? If he has to move at all, then we lose that advantage. I guess we just offer him what we can afford, and if he chooses a higher offer, then we did what we could. (sigh)
Heisenberg Posted 10 January, 2018 Posted 10 January, 2018 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5251821/amp/Everton-favourites-sign-Arsenals-Theo-Walcott-20m.html?__twitter_impression=true Les Reed
benjii Posted 10 January, 2018 Posted 10 January, 2018 Frankly, if Walcott commands £100k a week and Arsenal want something like £20million, I'd rather just play Josh Sims.
Saint_Ash Posted 10 January, 2018 Posted 10 January, 2018 Well they're not favourites as the bookies still have us as faves. Les does need to pull his finger out though and make something happen.
JRM Posted 10 January, 2018 Posted 10 January, 2018 Frankly, if Walcott commands £100k a week and Arsenal want something like £20million, I'd rather just play Josh Sims. Completely agree. Sadly I think Walcott’s best days are behind him now, don’t want us to spend our limited funds on him.
simo Posted 10 January, 2018 Posted 10 January, 2018 It's not happening and IF it does it will only be if Sanchez stays at arsenal, Everton aren't in for him and Wenger getting a replacement in first (which means it'll be last minute) !
AR-10 Posted 10 January, 2018 Posted 10 January, 2018 Wenger has also just flogged Coq to Spain. If he hasn't already gone he's just about to to Valencia another player bell end Sullivan has missed. Theo needs to throw a wobbler but he won't because mustn't upset jack Wilshire though.
Lets B Avenue Posted 10 January, 2018 Posted 10 January, 2018 Well they're not favourites as the bookies still have us as faves. Les does need to pull his finger out though and make something happen. They wont be selling whilst he's still required for the League Cup semi-finals.
Jimmy_D Posted 10 January, 2018 Posted 10 January, 2018 Well they're not favourites as the bookies still have us as faves. Les does need to pull his finger out though and make something happen. Looks like something fed to the press by Everton to be honest. That said, Everton are willing to throw money around at the moment.
LeBizzier69 Posted 10 January, 2018 Posted 10 January, 2018 Surely we need a striker who wants to stay a striker, rather than a wide player who wants to be a striker. There is clearly a reason why Wenger hasn't played him there regularly.
HKsaint Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 Do we really want Walcott to come back as Manchester United wanting Pogba to come back for $85m? He is only an used sub at the yesterday match against Chelsea. Do we really want to rescue his career at his age of 28? However, he've got what he wanted: money. Are we also going to buy back Shaw and Chamber, as they have no chance to shine and have no game time in the big club, when they turn 28, at a price higher than we sell, to rescue their careers? If so, what is the point of selling them? Are we idlot?
austsaint Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 Frankly, if Walcott commands £100k a week and Arsenal want something like £20million, I'd rather just play Josh Sims. So would I. And with the money we would save - sack Pellegrino, without further delay.
musesaint Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 Frankly, if Walcott commands £100k a week and Arsenal want something like £20million, I'd rather just play Josh Sims. How close to a full recovery is Josh Sims?
supersonic Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 How close to a full recovery is Josh Sims? was on the bench at Fulham
ally_uk Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 Loan or nothing else..... I wouldn't pay stupid money for him.
southamptonfc Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 Well they're not favourites as the bookies still have us as faves. Les does need to pull his finger out though and make something happen. If Les can persuade Walcott to accept half the wages that he will get at Everton, he is a miracle worker. If not, people will call for his head. Saints fans who think we can afford Walcott are living in a fantasy world.
LeBizzier69 Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 I suspect that whoever offers him the most cash AND first team football will win the race. Can't see that being us unless he wants to stay south. Frankly not fussed. Don't think he's the player to save us from our precarious position right now.
DT Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 All a smokescreen when the real impact across the whole team would be through hiring a manager who actually knows what he's doing. Our inability to realise this, at board level, rather than at everyone else's, will certainly send us down. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
derry Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 Giroud (injured at the moment) and Walcott on loan?
Dusic Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 Telegraph & Crossy saying Everton are going to bid £20m for him and will match his wages whilst we want him to take a wage cut and join a relegation battle. Reedo and Wee Ross will remain "hopeful" but I hope they have some other ideas as this one isn't happening which is a shame as his goal record from out wide is excellent.
Wade Garrett Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 Reed and Krueger are mugging us off with bullsh*t. They need to sort this mess out.
aintforever Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 We need to accept the fact that we will have to pay over the odds for anyone. Everyone know's we have the VVD cash and January is always more expensive anyway. If we try and penny pinch we will go down.
angelman Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 If we had to spend the best part of £20m and offer £100-110k a week wages, who would people want? Walcott or Hernandez?
Window Cleaner Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 If we had to spend the best part of £20m and offer £100-110k a week wages, who would people want? Walcott or Hernandez? At those prices and salaries I think I'd pass on both of them. Try to find a younger man with a bit more oomph left in the tank. Theo looked a bit light on pace in the Cup game against Norwich on a couple of occasions.
beavis17 Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 If we had to spend the best part of £20m and offer £100-110k a week wages, who would people want? Walcott or Hernandez? West Ham don't play to Hernandez's strengths like we don't play to Gabbiadini's, and seeing as they are similar players it would be pointless us trying to get him.
mynameisthehulk Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 You are all quite, quite mad. Walcott is a busted flush who has lost his pace and has a pretty horrendous injury record. Not even an upgrade on Redmond. Hopefully this is just the usual lazy paper talk.
once_bitterne Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 If Les can persuade Walcott to accept half the wages that he will get at Everton, he is a miracle worker. If not, people will call for his head. Saints fans who think we can afford Walcott are living in a fantasy world. With the VVD money we could afford his salary.
simo Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 If we had to spend the best part of £20m and offer £100-110k a week wages, who would people want? Walcott or Hernandez? Sims/Hesketh and a massive discount on season tickets next season in the championship!
Window Cleaner Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 You are all quite, quite mad. Walcott is a busted flush who has lost his pace and has a pretty horrendous injury record. Not even an upgrade on Redmond. Hopefully this is just the usual lazy paper talk. Well isn't that what I've just said ? So I'm not mad then.. You're right though. people seem desperate to sign "big names" who are at the end of the line. We should be looking for another Mané type player, same price range would be handy as well.
mynameisthehulk Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 Well isn't that what I've just said ? So I'm not mad then.. You're right though. people seem desperate to sign "big names" who are at the end of the line. We should be looking for another Mané type player, same price range would be handy as well. Apologies, missed your sanity amongst the gibberish
SNSUN Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 If we had to spend the best part of £20m and offer £100-110k a week wages, who would people want? Walcott or Hernandez? Iheanacho. He’d rip up the Championship next season. I’d rather neither for that money, but Walcott would give us more in a relegation battle than Hernandez.
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 David ornstein from bbc backs up what has already been discussed on here. Everton lead race due to wilingness to meet asking fee and wages. Both clubs have held high level talks with arsenal. Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk
DT Posted 11 January, 2018 Posted 11 January, 2018 What a surprise Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Heisenberg Posted 12 January, 2018 Posted 12 January, 2018 What a surprise Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Perhaps Leslie has been leaking the Everton interest as he will then seem like a persuasive wizard and hero once he unveils Walcott to his adoring fans? Or this could be just more of the bull**** Southampton way Either way #WeMarchOn
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 12 January, 2018 Posted 12 January, 2018 Perhaps Leslie has been leaking the Everton interest as he will then seem like a persuasive wizard and hero once he unveils Walcott to his adoring fans? Or this could be just more of the bull**** Southampton way Either way #WeMarchOn Or he realises he should've closed the deal by now & now someone else has beaten him to the punch?
John B Posted 12 January, 2018 Posted 12 January, 2018 Well isn't that what I've just said ? So I'm not mad then.. You're right though. people seem desperate to sign "big names" who are at the end of the line. We should be looking for another Mané type player, same price range would be handy as well. Yes very true never thought Walcott was that good a player just a lot of pace without the football nous Always thought OXO was the better player as I remember him scoring two goals in a match one a lob when we were in Div1 which I thought showed great skill and awareness
MarkSFC Posted 12 January, 2018 Posted 12 January, 2018 I think Walcott is exactly one half of who we need to sign in a forward position, Balotelli would be my preferred choice as the other half. Even if it costs the whole 75m of the VVD money all in then it's worth the small gamble. Swapping a CB performing below normal standards and not really having any influence this season and replacing with 2 players who could fairly comfortably add 15-20 Goals and assists between them is a huge positive. It strikes me that Reed is stuck in the sell high buy low cycle and more business balance sheet influenced than football balance sheet and this must change at least temporarily otherwise we are ******. Those who are better than Walcott NOW, not in 2-3 years, would cost 40+ and outside of our reach. The last 2 28/29 year olds we bought (I think I'm right here) did very well....Lambert and pelle. We should not always just buy in the 22-25 age bracket. Great business leaders (because that is what I have no doubt Reed sees himself as now) recognise the need for a fluid plan and strategy bjt I think Reed believes that he has sussed it and can do the same for ever more. Or if not he certainly is reacting far too slowly for the market he is shopping in. Just pay over the top for once!!!!
shurlock Posted 12 January, 2018 Posted 12 January, 2018 (edited) I think Walcott is exactly one half of who we need to sign in a forward position, Balotelli would be my preferred choice as the other half. Even if it costs the whole 75m of the VVD money all in then it's worth the small gamble. Swapping a CB performing below normal standards and not really having any influence this season and replacing with 2 players who could fairly comfortably add 15-20 Goals and assists between them is a huge positive. It strikes me that Reed is stuck in the sell high buy low cycle and more business balance sheet influenced than football balance sheet and this must change at least temporarily otherwise we are ******. Those who are better than Walcott NOW, not in 2-3 years, would cost 40+ and outside of our reach. The last 2 28/29 year olds we bought (I think I'm right here) did very well....Lambert and pelle. We should not always just buy in the 22-25 age bracket. Great business leaders (because that is what I have no doubt Reed sees himself as now) recognise the need for a fluid plan and strategy bjt I think Reed believes that he has sussed it and can do the same for ever more. Or if not he certainly is reacting far too slowly for the market he is shopping in. Just pay over the top for once!!!! Not sure it’s paying over the top - ideally his wages would be 30% lower but ultimately he’s based and proven in this country and that’s reflected in the price. He’s also been on the radar a while, so there’s nothing rash or reactive about this. He’s barely started any games this season, so necessarily lacking in match fitness and sharpness. But only last season he started 29 games and scored 19 goals. Many players have gone off the boil under Wenger in recent years, including Sanchez. Walcott isn't in that league, of course, and there are aspects of his game that are frustrating but he could certainly do a job here. I wish it was as easy as going out and looking for another Mané, as some idiots are proposing. Edited 12 January, 2018 by shurlock
doddisalegend Posted 12 January, 2018 Posted 12 January, 2018 David ornstein from bbc backs up what has already been discussed on here. Everton lead race due to wilingness to meet asking fee and wages. Both clubs have held high level talks with arsenal. Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk I'm in two minds about Walcott at the right price he'd be a useful addition but paying over the odds on transfer and wages for a injury prone player, who relies on pace and heading towards the latter stages of his career doesn't seem sensible.
hypochondriac Posted 12 January, 2018 Posted 12 January, 2018 Looks like he's going to Everton then. Can't really blame him but it's disappointing. I'd go for some of the best championship players who would be more likely to join us as it's a step up.
Dusic Posted 12 January, 2018 Posted 12 January, 2018 Shame to miss out on Walcott, especially as the club have pushed his name to their favoured journalists very heavily of late. We aren't going to get anyone more PL proven/ready than him. Everton needed a striker this window and went and got one early. They are now seemingly signing our top target. Fair play to them.
once_bitterne Posted 12 January, 2018 Posted 12 January, 2018 Almost a done deal http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42660224
Greenridge Posted 12 January, 2018 Posted 12 January, 2018 Looks like he's going to Everton then. Can't really blame him but it's disappointing. I'd go for some of the best championship players who would be more likely to join us as it's a step up. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11204214/sam-allardyce-confirms-everton-are-in-talks-with-arsenals-theo-walcott
James Posted 12 January, 2018 Posted 12 January, 2018 Wonder what the next fantasy link to appease the fans will be?
Saint-Reece Posted 12 January, 2018 Posted 12 January, 2018 Maybe when we are in the Championship the board will then learn to pull their fingers out and we will actually see us sign our preferred players early, I imagine Les was 'relaxed' about the Walcott situation up until now.
Pilchards Posted 12 January, 2018 Posted 12 January, 2018 For someone willing to take a pay cut plus wanted to come here says it all about us. Lets sign some wannabe’s who have never played in this league before Les. Cheap and risky which is the Southampton way.
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