John B Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 No idea. Unfortunate for him, not my problem. He ain't getting picked. All I've said is I wish we'd sign someone who has been playing regularly and scoring regularly. We've done it before with some success so call me bonkers but that's what I would have like to have seen us do again because it is perfectly possible. When was the last time we signed a decent striker whilst we were in the PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 When was the last time we signed a decent striker whilst we were in the PL Depends how you rate Austin I suppose and of course Pelle.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 When was the last time we signed a decent striker whilst we were in the PLAustin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashnats Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Couldn’t we have both? http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/24/191m-carillo-to-southampton-deal-is-more-bad-news-for-celtic-sta/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Depends how you rate Austin I suppose and of course Pelle.. So not many which was the point I was making getting really good ones is very difficult especially as they cost loads Not much from the Academy either McGoldrick Blackstock Best good Championship strikers If Austin was available most of the time I doubt we would be buying Guido now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Couldn’t we have both? http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/24/191m-carillo-to-southampton-deal-is-more-bad-news-for-celtic-sta/ No slight on Carillo, but if we could have had both then we've signed the wrong one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Les Reed went to Europe to buy a Citeron Belingo instead he signed a striker called Guido Carrillo ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Del, I see the old fruitcake Bangers has got you banned from The Ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Couldn’t we have both? http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/24/191m-carillo-to-southampton-deal-is-more-bad-news-for-celtic-sta/ That would be great. Come on Les, activate the Celtic button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 I'm unsure about this signing - I've never watched him play, and the stats seem to show whatever you want them to show. The reviews of him are mixed as well. I guess it's just a case of hoping he's the big man to hold the ball up, with a good finish and good head on him. Either way, think we just need to get behind him because there's **** all else to get behind at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 When was the last time we signed a decent striker whilst we were in the PL Austin Pelle Jay Rod was a great signing and got injured Mane scored 20+ goals in the season before we signed him All first choice regulars at the previous clubs. Gabbiadini has turned out to be not a great signing but he wasn't first choice at his previous club. Funny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 So not many which was the point I was making getting really good ones is very difficult especially as they cost loads Not much from the Academy either McGoldrick Blackstock Best good Championship strikers If Austin was available most of the time I doubt we would be buying Guido nownot many? nearly all of the strikers we signed had good seasons before joining us. apart from long and Gabbiadini see the pattern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Austin Pelle Jay Rod was a great signing and got injured Mane scored 20+ goals in the season before we signed him All first choice regulars at the previous clubs. Gabbiadini has turned out to be not a great signing but he wasn't first choice at his previous club. Funny that. I googled Osvaldo to see what his story was, but it don't seem to quite fit in. Fkn Osvaldo. Why has he always got to be different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraBLACK Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 From FM Saints Researcher: Best mins per goal return since the start of the 2016/17 Ligue 1 season (10+ goals): 1st - Edinson Cavani - 85.2 2nd - Alexandre Lacazette - 86 3rd - Neymar - 89.8 4th - Guido Carrillo - 91.1 He has started just two league games this season after missing a fair amount of last season through injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 not many? nearly all of the strikers we signed had good seasons before joining us. apart from long and Gabbiadini see the pattern? Yes get good attacking players get good results praise the manager Get bad attacking players get bad results blame the manager. I just don't think it easy to buy in outstanding and consistent attacking players Over the last 25 years we have managed to acquire what two or three whilst we were in the PL. Every team in the World is looking for them and the better ones are unlikely to want to come here. I think you have to realise that we are a second tier club that is bound to struggle from time to time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable ― Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 According to this, Monaco will be replacing Carillo with Slimani for €20M... https://mobile.twitter.com/GFFN/status/956464340714098688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23956464340714098688 I’m a little surprised that we did not go for Slimani instead of Carillo. Perhaps Slimani is too old at 29 to fit the profile of a record Saints signing, but he had a decent goal scoring record with Sporting before becoming a Leicester bench warmer, and has experience playing in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 (edited) From FM Saints Researcher: Best mins per goal return since the start of the 2016/17 Ligue 1 season (10+ goals): 1st - Edinson Cavani - 85.2 2nd - Alexandre Lacazette - 86 3rd - Neymar - 89.8 4th - Guido Carrillo - 91.1 He has started just two league games this season after missing a fair amount of last season through injury. Is that one of MLG's garbage stats? Ignore him, he's clueless. Typically when you see stats like this, it is standard practice for the player to have started a minimum number of games or played a minimum number of minutes. I see MLG has ditched this, no doubt to reach the conclusion he set out to achieve from the start. Edited 25 January, 2018 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 I googled Osvaldo to see what his story was, but it don't seem to quite fit in. Fkn Osvaldo. Why has he always got to be different? That guy had so much talent and p*ssed it all up the wall. Could have been a great at SFC if his head wasn't so screwed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 That guy had so much talent and p*ssed it all up the wall. Could have been a great at SFC if his head wasn't so screwed up. Looks like he's got a new career...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 According to this, Monaco will be replacing Carillo with Slimani for €20M... https://mobile.twitter.com/GFFN/status/956464340714098688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23956464340714098688 I’m a little surprised that we did not go for Slimani instead of Carillo. Perhaps Slimani is too old at 29 to fit the profile of a record Saints signing, but he had a decent goal scoring record with Sporting before becoming a Leicester bench warmer, and has experience playing in this league. In the Equipe piece about it all it states that Carrillo will be replaced by "un joueur de qualité superieure" whether than means the likes of Slimani I just couldn't say. I just do not understand this deal at all. One would think we're desperate to get money into Monaco because Carrillo just isn't worth 22 million euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 From FM Saints Researcher:Best mins per goal return since the start of the 2016/17 Ligue 1 season (10+ goals): 1st - Edinson Cavani - 85.2 2nd - Alexandre Lacazette - 86 3rd - Neymar - 89.8 4th - Guido Carrillo - 91.1 He has started just two league games this season after missing a fair amount of last season through injury. Is that one of MLG's garbage stats? Ignore him, he's clueless. Typically when you see stats like this, it is standard practice for the player to have started a minimum number of games or played a minimum number of minutes. I see MLG has ditched this, no doubt to reach the conclusion he set out to achieve from the start. Actually I took it from whoscored.com and if you actually read it... it say the criteria is for players with at least 10 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 According to this, Monaco will be replacing Carillo with Slimani for €20M... https://mobile.twitter.com/GFFN/status/956464340714098688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23956464340714098688 I’m a little surprised that we did not go for Slimani instead of Carillo. Perhaps Slimani is too old at 29 to fit the profile of a record Saints signing, but he had a decent goal scoring record with Sporting before becoming a Leicester bench warmer, and has experience playing in this league. Slimani is crock, and a bag of ****e. Leicester fans would be overjoyed to get £20 million for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 That guy had so much talent and p*ssed it all up the wall. Could have been a great at SFC if his head wasn't so screwed up. and if hadn't of pee'd it up the wall, he wouldn't have come to us in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Actually I took it from whoscored.com and if you actually read it... it say the criteria is for players with at least 10 goals. I saw that criteria. But the criteria is usually games or minutes played, not goals scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Mods should be doing the honours soon buddy. Welcome to team Heisenberg. Mods should be doing the honours soon buddy. Welcome to team Heisenberg. Still not happened... perhaps because you spelt Matthew incorrectly as Mathew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Still not happened... perhaps because you spelt Matthew incorrectly as Mathew Come on, that's a bit much, expecting Heisenberg to be able to spell Matthew. It's not like it's the name of our greatest and most famous player or anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 January, 2018 Author Share Posted 25 January, 2018 He will inform you he has 2 't's in his name. Still not happened... perhaps because you spelt Matthew incorrectly as Mathew :toppa: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Still not happened... perhaps because you spelt Matthew incorrectly as Mathew Looks like it's been accidentally credited to my account. Many thanks Mat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Pellegrino's press conference didn't exactly inspire confidence that the deal will get done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Pellegrino's press conference didn't exactly inspire confidence that the deal will get done. Nothing about mope inspires me. Imagine that half time team talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Pellegrino's press conference didn't exactly inspire confidence that the deal will get done. "Hopefully we will have good news, maybe tomorrow" - that doesn't inspire confidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 "Hopefully we will have good news, maybe tomorrow" - that doesn't inspire confidence? No. "we'll fight them on the beaches...", that inspires confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Pellegrino's press conference didn't exactly inspire confidence that the deal will get done. In fairness, Pellegrino tends to not inspire much confidence in anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 In fairness, Pellegrino tends to not inspire much confidence in anything. I think thats where we are really isn't it...not many trust Pellegrino's judgement on players given his tactical nous shown this season. In the past he would have been sacked long ago 17% win rate!! Carillo if signed will have to win fans over on the pitch just because he is a Pellegrino signing. Loads of other better choices IMO but won't write him off yet - I would have gone for Vokes(realistic bid), Slimani, Ineacho, Ulloa, Bathshuey? before this Guido chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colman1860 Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 I saw that criteria. But the criteria is usually games or minutes played, not goals scored. Since the stat is minutes per goal, you only need one of the two as a qualifier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Since the stat is minutes per goal, you only need one of the two as a qualifier Could do. Either way, whether it’s minimum goals scored or minimum number of minutes, the threshold would have to be set a lot higher. Ten goals over nearly two seasons is a ludicrously low bar. The idea of comparing the stats Cavani who starts every game for PSG and thus racked up over 50 goals with Carrillo who scraped over the 10 goal threshold is pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 I don't think Carrillo's (presumably pronounced Car-ree-zhoh) stats can tell us a great deal. He's only scored in 2 separate league matches all season. But his time on this pitch in each match is (in ascending order): 0, 2, 5, 6, 10, 12, 13, 18, 28, 36, 45, 45, 45*, 61, 90*. * matches he scored (2) in. You'd hope he might have found the scoresheet a bit more in the cameo appearances but it's not really a lot to judge on, for better or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 I think thats where we are really isn't it...not many trust Pellegrino's judgement on players given his tactical nous shown this season. In the past he would have been sacked long ago 17% win rate!! Carillo if signed will have to win fans over on the pitch just because he is a Pellegrino signing. Loads of other better choices IMO but won't write him off yet - I would have gone for Vokes(realistic bid), Slimani, Ineacho, Ulloa, Bathshuey? before this Guido chap. I wouldn’t suggest Vokes when questioning someone else’s judgement if I were you. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Vokes is off to Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 I wouldn’t suggest Vokes when questioning someone else’s judgement if I were you. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkThe only one who questions other fans is you because your head is so far up Puels arse you cant see whats in front of you. Constantly having a pop. Who scored Burnleys winner down here and changed game....why would we want him? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 In fairness, Pellegrino tends to not inspire much confidence in anything. It was the "Maybe only one ....er maybe 5 !" That worried me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 The only one who questions other fans is you because your head is so far up Puels arse you cant see whats in front of you. Constantly having a pop. Who scored Burnleys winner down here and changed game....why would we want him? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk TBF Glen Murray and Peter Crouch have scored against us this season and I wouldn't want them to sign for us either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 TBF Glen Murray and Peter Crouch have scored against us this season and I wouldn't want them to sign for us either.Nope if you are limiting it to that . I was coming from holds it up , target man, ready to go doesnt need time to get used to pace. Not bad scoring record and wont cost arm and leg. Ideal if we go down too. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Nope if you are limiting it to that . I was coming from holds it up , target man, ready to go doesnt need time to get used to pace. Not bad scoring record and wont cost arm and leg. Ideal if we go down too. Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkI would have Crouch back thinking on it you need varieties in games. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 The only one who questions other fans is you because your head is so far up Puels arse you cant see whats in front of you. Constantly having a pop. Who scored Burnleys winner down here and changed game....why would we want him? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Agreed, why would we want him. Sell VvD, use some of the money to sign Sam Voges, are you smoking crack? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Agreed, why would we want him. Sell VvD, use some of the money to sign Sam Voges, are you smoking crack? Sent from my iPad using TapatalkWtf is Sam Voges ...lol Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csh398 Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 Not signed and registered in time for Watford I guess. Shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterSaint Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 He is at Staplewood at the moment so the announcement must be imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 He is at Staplewood at the moment so the announcement must be imminent. ITK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 25 January, 2018 Share Posted 25 January, 2018 ITK! If he’s there now, it’ll take a few days for he announcement videos. Gone are the days of a simple press conference unveiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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