SuperSAINT Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Posted this in Transfer Window thread but thought it's worth it's own thread: @mcgrathmike: #Southampton make £17.5m bid for #Monaco striker Guido Carrillo to save their season https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5274134/southampton-guido-carrillo-bid-monaco/ [video=youtube;scPz4sU-mqs] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 15 goals in 85 games over two and a half seasons. Sounds perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 never heard of him. Looking on Fifa stats, i'm guessing if true he's supposed to give us that presence up top as it suggested he had little pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 15 goals in 85 games over two and a half seasons. Sounds perfect. Quite a few as a sub though, very much second choice behind Falcao, understandably, but has scored a few in recent weeks. Could be something in it, but as I mentioned in the transfer window thread, wonder whether this is just journos seeing a striker not getting many games, who has worked with MP before, and made a jump from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Well, at least we're looking at players with the attributes we need. He's a big pressence this lad. About 6.3 going by his transfer market page, similar stature to that of Pelle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 I wouldn't be surprised if this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Well, at least we're looking at players with the attributes we need. He's a big pressence this lad. About 6.3 going by his transfer market page, similar stature to that of Pelle. Is h any better than Sam Gallagher do you think? After an understandable slow start Sam has finally clicked at St Andrews, scoring goals and MoM last two games. Pellegrino hardly even looked at him in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 great another striker with a mediocre scoring record wasn't even very prolific in Argentina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Is h any better than Sam Gallagher do you think? After an understandable slow start Sam has finally clicked at St Andrews, scoring goals and MoM last two games. Pellegrino hardly even looked at him in the summer. No idea to be honest, not seen anything of Carillo. I wouldn't be against bringing Gallagher back though as an option, although it does seem as if he's found his feet. He's certainly a leading player in that league, so will be great for us next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 January, 2018 Author Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Is h any better than Sam Gallagher do you think? After an understandable slow start Sam has finally clicked at St Andrews, scoring goals and MoM last two games. Pellegrino hardly even looked at him in the summer. Duncan, just out of interest - Do the manager's choose? Or do loans etc get decided above their head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Is h any better than Sam Gallagher do you think? After an understandable slow start Sam has finally clicked at St Andrews, scoring goals and MoM last two games. Pellegrino hardly even looked at him in the summer. I don't know this guy from Monaco but I find it hard to imagine Gallagher keeping him on the bench at Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Austin replacement then with a worse goalscoring record? I suppose beggars can't be choosers in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 great another striker with a mediocre scoring record wasn't even very prolific in Argentina. His manager in Argentina was Pellegrino. That’s probably why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Ian Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 If we are looking at replacing Pellegrino and this story is true, I really don't know why we are giving him any say in potential transfer deals. If so, worrying.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 How very underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Seems like the sort of striker we need in terms of his physical characteristics. Not got the greatest goal record but if he brings others into play and generates higher quality chances at the same time (and we sign someone else) then why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 January, 2018 Author Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Seems like the sort of striker we need in terms of his physical characteristics. Not got the greatest goal record but if he brings others into play and generates higher quality chances at the same time (and we sign someone else) then why not? Saint-Armstrong is back?! Welcome back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Seems like the sort of striker we need in terms of his physical characteristics. Not got the greatest goal record but if he brings others into play and generates higher quality chances at the same time (and we sign someone else) then why not? Exactly. We don't necessarily need a prolific goalscorer, as long as he can bring goals out of everybody else, like Pelle and Lambert always used to. On Tuesday against Palace we got desperate and started lumping it long, but had absolutely no aerial presence so it was a waste of time. Our goal struggles the last two seasons have been our only two seasons in this era without a big front man, it's not a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Exactly. We don't necessarily need a prolific goalscorer, as long as he can bring goals out of everybody else, like Pelle and Lambert always used to. On Tuesday against Palace we got desperate and started lumping it long, but had absolutely no aerial presence so it was a waste of time. Our goal struggles the last two seasons have been our only two seasons in this era without a big front man, it's not a coincidence. Agree, and this guy might just be the answer. He looks "gettable" too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimatt Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 A 26yo with only 43 career league goals? Please no.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 A 26yo with only 43 career league goals? Please no.. Exactly. This is not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Our transfer business is going beyond parody. Please just sign anyone with a track record of actually scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Is this the player our so call ITK expert mentioned on another thread . The one where he was at the Huddersfield game and all the terms had been agreed and would be announced this week ? Or was the ITK expert just bull ****ting and taking a gamble we would sign somebody this week ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 I will endeavour to be optimistic about this player and his ability.....however it is proving a difficult job. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Is he any better than Sam Gallagher do you think? After an understandable slow start Sam has finally clicked at St Andrews, scoring goals and MoM last two games. Pellegrino hardly even looked at him in the summer. Duncan, just out of interest - Do the manager's choose? Or do loans etc get decided above their head? I said on another thread I would bring Gallagher back, pay off Birmingham, put him in the side immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 This guy plus Walcott might be as close as we get to a Pelle/Mane combination. I'm not talking in terms of quality but attributes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Heard it all now. Sign a centre-forward, it doesn’t matter if he doesn’t score goals! Some people really are clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 I for the life of me don t understand why we don't get in someone like Haller in. Young physical and prolific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 This guy plus Walcott might be as close as we get to a Pelle/Mane combination. I'm not talking in terms of quality but attributes. Pelle scored goals throughout his career including his time here this guy hasn't scored heavily at any level including the Argentine league if he is the best we can get we might as well not bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Is this the player our so call ITK expert mentioned on another thread . The one where he was at the Huddersfield game and all the terms had been agreed and would be announced this week ? Or was the ITK expert just bull ****ting and taking a gamble we would sign somebody this week ? By the look of his Instagram account, he’s spent the winter break in Argentina. That ITK also mentioned that this guy has two children, and it doesn’t look like Carrillo has kids. If he does, he doesn’t post about them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Duncan, just out of interest - Do the manager's choose? Or do loans etc get decided above their head? The manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Heard it all now. Sign a centre-forward, it doesn’t matter if he doesn’t score goals! Some people really are clueless. It worked with Long!! ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 I'm guessing if he comes Theo won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 I'm guessing if he comes Theo won't. Why not? They’re two very different players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 I'm guessing if he comes Theo won't. Dont we have something like 25-70m to spend (adjust accordingly to source) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Pelle scored goals throughout his career including his time here this guy hasn't scored heavily at any level including the Argentine league if he is the best we can get we might as well not bother. Yes and no. Before Pelle played for Feyenoord he had a worse goal scoring record than this guy but he then scored for fun in a pish Dutch league. I'm pretty sure that was pointed out on here when we signed him... But like I said, I wasn't talking about comparing them in terms of quality more the target man and little/quick player combo. I'd rather have Pelle (and numerous others) than this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Yes and no. Before Pelle played for Feyenoord he had a worse goal scoring record than this guy but he then scored for fun in a pish Dutch league. I'm pretty sure that was pointed out on here when we signed him... But like I said, I wasn't talking about comparing them in terms of quality more the target man and little/quick player combo. I'd rather have Pelle (and numerous others) than this guy. If all we want is a big lump tha doesn't score let's not blow 17m on a South American, we all know how those signings work out for us! What is Osvaldo up to at the minute.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 15 goals in 85 games over two and a half seasons. Sounds perfect.What was Pelles record before he came to us...? Sent from my SM-J330FN using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Posted this in Transfer Window thread but thought it's worth it's own thread: @mcgrathmike: #Southampton make £17.5m bid for #Monaco striker Guido Carrillo to save their season https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5274134/southampton-guido-carrillo-bid-monaco/ [video=youtube;scPz4sU-mqs] There isn't a good finish in that video. They are all tap ins bar one header at a corner, and he is unmarked by appalling defending in nearly every goal. Also, does he only live inside the 6yard box? Saints need a target man who can bully defenders, hold the ball up well, link play, and finish half chances. This fellow doesn't appear to excel at the above. I hope I'm wrong, but a 0.17 goals per game ratio playing for one of the best clubs in a weak french top division does not fill me with much confidence!! I think Les and co need to realise that we don't need more squad fillers, what we need is some star players. They have £60m to spend and a huge chunk of wage budget from VVD.... GO SPEND IT ON TWO PLAYERS MAX FFS. Not 4No. £15M signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 I said on another thread I would bring Gallagher back, pay off Birmingham, put him in the side immediately. As an absolute minimum this needs to happen. We have a knackered Austin, an out of form and disinterested Gabbi, and a 1goal all season Long as our strikers. Why on earth are we not playing a very promising young striker whose attributes are exactly what we are missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 A 26yo with only 43 career league goals? Please no.. Remind me of Pelle's record when we signed him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Remind me of Pelle's record when we signed him? Absolutley prolific. Around 30 goals a season for the 2 seasons prior to joining us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 (edited) Remind me of Pelle's record when we signed him? You have google? So unless you are too lazy to use wikipedia I don't understand what point you are trying to make? In the two seasons proceeding his move to Saints, Pelle score 27 in 29 appearances, and then 23 in 28 appearances. That is already more than the linked player has netted in his entire career. This chap is not what we need to be wasting our money on... If we sign him the fanbase will be pulling their hair out more than they are already. Edited 5 January, 2018 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CylonKing Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 That video link doesn't show him at his best. Just watched some more and he looks pretty good to me, some decent assists, excellent header of the ball and seems to be in the right place at the right time to hit the target. Might not be a bad option. Looks like he can bully defenders and bring other players into the game. All depends on getting players in and around him and providing the right service. Could be a gem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Not good enough for a club of our stature. If this guy signs I’m going to abuse him and boo his every touch on his home debut, as lots of us did with Pelle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectraman Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Now is the not the time to be taking a gamble on an unproven player, when we are in a relegation dogfight. We need to splash the cash on PROVEN premier league players. If we go down the cheaper, foreign import route, who knows what we are going to get? He will need time to settle in, and we don't have time on our side. I'm hoping that this is a false alarm, and we are after someone more prolific & experienced. May as well buy Crouch for 3 million as this guy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 That video link doesn't show him at his best. Just watched some more and he looks pretty good to me, some decent assists, excellent header of the ball and seems to be in the right place at the right time to hit the target. Might not be a bad option. Looks like he can bully defenders and bring other players into the game. All depends on getting players in and around him and providing the right service. Could be a gem! That's a shame, I was hoping we could squeeze in a 'what a waste of money' song for him tomorrow, amongst all the sack MP, sack the board, hope we lose chants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 I said on another thread I would bring Gallagher back, pay off Birmingham, put him in the side immediately. Brum might go for that. They are paying him/us an absolute fortune, which could obviously be spent on other players. He was Baspuss' man and the Clot hasn't really fancied him, playing him out wide most of the season. However, he has scored 3 goals in the last five games, which might have changed things (its amazing how much better a player looks if he has scored). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 There isn't a good finish in that video. They are all tap ins bar one header at a corner, and he is unmarked by appalling defending in nearly every goal. Also, does he only live inside the 6yard box? Saints need a target man who can bully defenders, hold the ball up well, link play, and finish half chances. This fellow doesn't appear to excel at the above. I hope I'm wrong, but a 0.17 goals per game ratio playing for one of the best clubs in a weak french top division does not fill me with much confidence!! I think Les and co need to realise that we don't need more squad fillers, what we need is some star players. They have £60m to spend and a huge chunk of wage budget from VVD.... GO SPEND IT ON TWO PLAYERS MAX FFS. Not 4No. £15M signings. Completely agree with this Add a bit of pace and we are sorted. However £40m minimum for these attributes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 His manager in Argentina was Pellegrino. That’s probably why. This is one of the reasons why it would have been good to fire Pellegrino before the January transfer window. The manager has a say in transfers. Pellegrino said as much in one of his recent press conferences. This manager also does not know his arse from his elbow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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