tisspahars Posted 5 March, 2018 Author Share Posted 5 March, 2018 Oh it's clearly a threat - and a big one too - my point (and perhaps the point of this thread) is that the "that's it!! (for the fourteenth time) we are definitely, absolutely, utterly down with not even a tiny chance of survival" stuff is a bit OTT and completely illogical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 5 March, 2018 Share Posted 5 March, 2018 The thing is the bookies are basing it on the quality of the squad. I'm aware on paper our team might look better than say, Huddersfield. However they are not performing under our manager. At 7/2 you really are unlikely to find many better value bets over the next few years. We should be even money at best. Let's make the best of a bad situation. Fill your boots! Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 5 March, 2018 Share Posted 5 March, 2018 The thing is the bookies are basing it on the quality of the squad. I'm aware on paper our team might look better than say, Huddersfield. However they are not performing under our manager. At 7/2 you really are unlikely to find many better value bets over the next few years. We should be even money at best. Let's make the best of a bad situation. Fill your boots! Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Presumably the bookies aren't basing it on anything other than betting patterns. 7/2 probably reflects that the general public look at Southampton and think "they've got some good players, and they're only a couple of wins from safety, I'm sure they'll get them". At 8/1 we were worth a bet, but we hardly look like relegation certainties. It's only the fans who watch every week who really know the sort of trouble we're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 6 March, 2018 Author Share Posted 6 March, 2018 Not saying this is right or wrong but thought it may interest/astonish some on here to know that we (useless, rudderless, inevitably down) are this morning the same price (to exactly the same 1/10 of a point!) as Swansea (vibrant, resurgent, clearly going to be fine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 6 March, 2018 Share Posted 6 March, 2018 Not saying this is right or wrong but thought it may interest/astonish some on here to know that we (useless, rudderless, inevitably down) are this morning the same price (to exactly the same 1/10 of a point!) as Swansea (vibrant, resurgent, clearly going to be fine). You keep referncing this "useless, rudderless, inevitably down" chat - but who has actually said this? youre trying to pass this off as the general fan/forum opinion when ive persoanlly seen maybe one or two posts (amongst 1000s) that are saying this. you started off saying that nobody "REALLY" believed we would go down - youre now backtracking faster than an Italian tank If we are relegated youll no doubt be telling us that you chuicked a few quid on it as you always knew. You just seem that type of poster to me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 6 March, 2018 Author Share Posted 6 March, 2018 If you read this thread carefully my position has been clear and consistent. We have been in trouble the whole time, my point has been that plenty on here (not all by any means, granted) have been frankly childish with their "we are down and nothing can save us" nonsense when the table, the betting odds and a grain of common sense would tell you that is drivel. We are, as we were when this thread started in trouble and we may go down, but that is not only not certain but less likely than likely as things stand. Trust this helps you Heisenberg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 6 March, 2018 Author Share Posted 6 March, 2018 Oh and for the record I haven't put a penny on us going down (or staying up for that matter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 March, 2018 Share Posted 6 March, 2018 Might stick £200 on us going down. Pays for season ticket and a couple of always in the event of relegation. Sent from my SM-J330FN using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 10 March, 2018 Author Share Posted 10 March, 2018 POST NEWCASTLE UPDATE - Unsurprisingly a major price crash into just under 2/1 to go down (market still settling though with Palace game still on, Stoke to play yet etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 March, 2018 Share Posted 11 March, 2018 Put this on a while ago and added another £20 a few weeks later when I couldn't believe the odds. Either we stay up and I'm happy or we go down and I have some cash to make me feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 18 March, 2018 Author Share Posted 18 March, 2018 WEEKLY UPDATE - Despite no game for us a significant week with Hughes appointment, confidence gained from cup win and other results seeing us out to 5/2 to go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 31 March, 2018 Author Share Posted 31 March, 2018 POST WEST HAM UPDATE - Unsurprisingly after that debacle the mood on here is absolutely forlorn. More surprisingly (asonishingly to some i'm guessing) we are still odds against to go down at around 11/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 31 March, 2018 Share Posted 31 March, 2018 POST WEST HAM UPDATE - Unsurprisingly after that debacle the mood on here is absolutely forlorn. More surprisingly (asonishingly to some i'm guessing) we are still odds against to go down at around 11/10.Do you think we will get relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 31 March, 2018 Author Share Posted 31 March, 2018 I would say we should be a shade of odds on to go down rather than a shade of odds against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 31 March, 2018 Share Posted 31 March, 2018 11/10 still. incredible. If it was any of the 5 teams above us in our position they'd be long odds on. Wonder when the bookies will finally realise how bad we are? Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 31 March, 2018 Share Posted 31 March, 2018 Wonder what odds we will be to get relegated from the Championship next season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 1 April, 2018 Author Share Posted 1 April, 2018 After the Stoke result we have just been matched at bigger than 6/4 on Betfair to go down, a price that seems decidedly big to me and i'm guessing to a fair few on here mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 8 April, 2018 Author Share Posted 8 April, 2018 POST ARSENAL UPDATE - forum split between those feeling more upbeat after a much improved display and those who think everything is irrelevant except the lack of any points. Betfair market has us into 11/10 for relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 8 April, 2018 Share Posted 8 April, 2018 .....but if you are dim enough to think we are now down and nothing can save us you can get upwards of 5/1 for your money on Betfair. Before the replies come in, yes we are obviously in a scrap, i'm merely pointing out the sheer nonsense of some of the knee jerk reactions at FT. still think we are dim and all knee-jerky thinking we will go down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 8 April, 2018 Author Share Posted 8 April, 2018 Maybe you could try re-reading the sentence you have just reposted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 8 April, 2018 Share Posted 8 April, 2018 Relegation will give me just over £1,000 Ive made nearly £4k betting against Saints last 2 seasons.....trust me it helps ease the pain a little and I'll be topping up again at evens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 8 April, 2018 Share Posted 8 April, 2018 Relegation will give me just over £1,000 Ive made nearly £4k betting against Saints last 2 seasons.....trust me it helps ease the pain a little and I'll be topping up again at evens I suspect that £5k will go on a few more golf trips should we go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 8 April, 2018 Share Posted 8 April, 2018 I suspect that £5k will go on a few more golf trips should we go down. Easy come, easy go mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 April, 2018 Share Posted 8 April, 2018 Easy come, easy go mateGamblers only brag about their big wins. A bit like golfers who can spend hours talking a bout a good shot and forget the 120 shots that went with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 8 April, 2018 Share Posted 8 April, 2018 Easy come, easy go mate Would be a great story if it were true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 April, 2018 Share Posted 8 April, 2018 £300 on us to go down just before the Newcastle game returns £1350 for me. Cash out was £600 before today so with us losing and west ham winning reckon it could be up a couple hundred more. Wasn't going to spend £600 on a season ticket in the prem next season so my logic behind placing so much was that I will be up either way... Sent from my SM-J330FN using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 April, 2018 Share Posted 8 April, 2018 Relegation will give me just over £1,000 Ive made nearly £4k betting against Saints last 2 seasons.....trust me it helps ease the pain a little and I'll be topping up again at evens Got money on Reed to win the masters pal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 8 April, 2018 Share Posted 8 April, 2018 Got money on Reed to win the masters pal? He’s there and will post some “photos” soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 9 April, 2018 Share Posted 9 April, 2018 Put this on a while ago and added another £20 a few weeks later when I couldn't believe the odds. Either we stay up and I'm happy or we go down and I have some cash to make me feel better. £210 will make you feel better about our relegation? Bloody hell. Could buy you a fair few pies I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 9 April, 2018 Share Posted 9 April, 2018 £210 will make you feel better about our relegation? Bloody hell. Could buy you a fair few pies I suppose. It's only relegation. Not the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 9 April, 2018 Share Posted 9 April, 2018 £300 on us to go down just before the Newcastle game returns £1350 for me. Cash out was £600 before today so with us losing and west ham winning reckon it could be up a couple hundred more. Wasn't going to spend £600 on a season ticket in the prem next season so my logic behind placing so much was that I will be up either way... Sent from my SM-J330FN using Tapatalk west ham winning? um Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted 9 April, 2018 Share Posted 9 April, 2018 POST ARSENAL UPDATE - forum split between those feeling more upbeat after a much improved display and those who think everything is irrelevant except the lack of any points. Betfair market has us into 11/10 for relegation. Odds of 11/10 mean that the market still thinks there is a less than 50% chance of us going down. I wish I was that confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 9 April, 2018 Share Posted 9 April, 2018 west ham winning? umI meant to say picking up points and had a brain fart. Sent from my SM-J330FN using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 April, 2018 Share Posted 9 April, 2018 I cashed out before WHU game last week as thought we'd win. Took £120 from a potential £340 win. Wish I'd kept it in now...! Surprised we're still less than evens to go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 14 April, 2018 Author Share Posted 14 April, 2018 POST CHELSEA UPDATE - Well, we were all the way out to about 5/2 just before Giroud scored his first.....but what followed both at St Mary's and late on in Huddersfield sees us crashing all the way to 4/7 for the drop and given the way the table looks tonight most people would say that's value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 15 April, 2018 Author Share Posted 15 April, 2018 As an aside all those that "just knew" Chelsea would turn it around when Giroud came on could have backed them at at least 33/1 yesterday (probably more I wasn't glued to the screen all game). In addition Saints could have been layed at 1/5 (and likewise probably less). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holbury Saint Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 Sky bet offering me cash out £69.98 today on a potential pay out of £110 for relegation. Tempting cos I'm probably the most unlucky gambler but pretty certain we're down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 April, 2018 Share Posted 15 April, 2018 My cash out is now at £798. Still not tempted, fairly convinced we're for the drop. Sent from my SM-J330FN using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 19 April, 2018 Author Share Posted 19 April, 2018 POST LEICESTER UPDATE - 4/9 from 4/7 to go down so the market a little less certain than the forum that this was the definitive nail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 20 April, 2018 Author Share Posted 20 April, 2018 ......and with a night to chew on it back to 1/2 so little difference from prior to kick off last night whereas the feeling on the forum seems to be that we are way way more likely to go than we were pre match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 April, 2018 Share Posted 20 April, 2018 POST LEICESTER UPDATE - 4/9 from 4/7 to go down so the market a little less certain than the forum that this was the definitive nail. Isn't 4/9 shorter odds than 4/7 ? It means that you'd have to bet 9 units to win 4 rather than 7 units to win 4 doesn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 20 April, 2018 Author Share Posted 20 April, 2018 Yes, it is shorter but not that much shorter hence my comment that the market is less definitive than the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 April, 2018 Share Posted 20 April, 2018 Yes, it is shorter but not that much shorter hence my comment that the market is less definitive than the forum. Ah OK. Had a look at oddschecker and I see that West Brom, Stoke and Saints are odds on for relegation with almost everyone (or with everyone) and all the other sides are not. Seems that they've made up their mind in the main. I mean no-one is going to wager a thousand £ on West Brom avoiding relegation to win a quid if a miracle happens are they. I see that there are some 4/11 and 2/5 odds on Saints as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 20 April, 2018 Author Share Posted 20 April, 2018 Those are with the traditional bookies where the odds are always shorter, for this thread I have always used the Betfair exchange price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 29 April, 2018 Author Share Posted 29 April, 2018 POST BOURNEMOUTH UPDATE - A cracking day (in what feels like the first time in forever) with not only our win but other results seeing us all the way out to 11/8 to go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 April, 2018 Share Posted 29 April, 2018 My Cash out went up to £905 before Bournemouth and has dropped to £680 now. Sent from my SM-J330FN using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holbury Saint Posted 30 April, 2018 Share Posted 30 April, 2018 My Cash out went up to £905 before Bournemouth and has dropped to £680 now. Sent from my SM-J330FN using Tapatalk Cash out now.....we're staying up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 April, 2018 Share Posted 30 April, 2018 Cash out now.....we're staying upSource? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 April, 2018 Share Posted 30 April, 2018 Cash out now.....we're staying upI'm sticking with it till past the Everton game at least. Sent from my SM-J330FN using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 30 April, 2018 Share Posted 30 April, 2018 I'm sticking with it till past the Everton game at least. Sent from my SM-J330FN using Tapatalk Just looking at the odds on this match and Bet365 have us as slight favourites at 6/4 with Everton at 7/4. WTAF!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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