SuperSAINT Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Hoedt out Bertrand and Pied in. Stephens & Yoshida dream team in centre. 3pts a must or fans will be alittle upset. COYR. Is Hoedt injured? Benteke would beast Yoshi & Stephens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Hoedt out Bertrand and Pied in. Stephens & Yoshida dream team in centre. 3pts a must or fans will be alittle upset. COYR. I was thinking that a specialist RB would be necessary to defend against Zaha. Pied must have been wondering what he has to do to get a game. If Bertrand is fit to start that is excellent news. Dropping Hoedt makes no sense to me unless he’s knackered or injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 It may just be another example of MP always looking at the game after next rather than the one in hand. Really hacks me off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 I thought Hoedt has looked pretty good up to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Hoedt out Bertrand and Pied in. Stephens & Yoshida dream team in centre. 3pts a must or fans will be alittle upset. COYR. Surprised at Hoedt not playing. Bertrand back is a bonus though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 This constant changing of the CB pairing is the most risky. Unless Hoedt is injured it’s madness Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 (edited) My [decidedly amateur] thoughts: ----------Gabbiadini-------- ------------Boufal----------- ---Tadic---Lemina---Hojbjerg -----------Romeu------------ Bertrand--Yoshi--Stephens--Pied (no Hoedt??) -----------McCarthy----------- subs: Forster, McQueen, Targett, Davis, JWP, Redmond (I suppose), Long. I also wonder if Bednarek, Sims or Hesketh might find a space on the bench for this one? This assumes Bertrand & Lemina are fit. If not, then stick in McQueen & JWP (wide right, with Hoj central) respectively. Maybe put Yoshi on Zaha, man-marking job? He may not be our best defender, but he's quick enough to stay with him & be a nuisance. Or is man-marking a bit '1966'? Boufal/Gabbi front 2, with Boufal in the linking role. He & Tadic could also interchange, to confuse their defence. Edited 1 January, 2018 by 5string Just saw K.Billy's post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Unless Hoedt is injured that is bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Why? He got MOTM: reward is not playing next game, right? Or is that just us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Hoedt is out injured with concussion. Sturridge mentioned (not for this game) Getting stressy over at the transfers thread. Sturridge a possible arrival then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 What do you mean ref Sturridge ? Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Hoedt is out injured with concussion. . That all adds up. Also concussion and the damaged caused is a cumulative thing, so after the clash with Lukaku it seems a wise move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Hoedt is out injured with concussion. Sturridge mentioned (not for this game) Getting stressy over at the transfers thread. That makes sense. It also means he played through most of the Man U game with a concussion, assuming it came from the clash of heads with Lukaku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Hoedt out is a blow. Should be a young CB on the bench then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Hoedt out is a blow. Should be a young CB on the bench then. Bednarek was on the bench at Old Trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Bednarek was on the bench at Old Trafford. Oh, was he! Didn't even notice. Well spotted.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Start Pied? Bertrand Yoshida Stephens Pied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Is Hoedt injured? Benteke would beast Yoshi & Stephens. You can bet your house on Benteke getting at least one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 You can bet your house on Benteke getting at least one. OK - what's the bet? I am happy to take one with you via PayPal. As you are so sure, but I am feeling the generous festive spirit - how about 2 to 1 against Benteke not scoring at all, say £50? To be clear that means, if he scores I pay you £50, and if he does not you pay me £100. # Agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 OK - what's the bet? I am happy to take one with you via PayPal. As you are so sure, but I am feeling the generous festive spirit - how about 2 to 1 against Benteke not scoring at all, say £50? To be clear that means, if he scores I pay you £50, and if he does not you pay me £100. # Agree? No, you can only bet your house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Is Hoedt injured? Benteke would beast Yoshi & Stephens. Yeah I remember him doing that last season at home against jack and Maya when we walked away 3-1 winners.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 That makes sense. It also means he played through most of the Man U game with a concussion, assuming it came from the clash of heads with Lukaku. You can have delayed concussion. I did once. It's why they keep. you under observation in hospital sometimes if you've had a knock, as I did when I was knocked off my motorbike. He will be missed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Has anyone got info on Palace team news? Going to be a tough game, chance to do the double over them (didn’t we fail to do that against anyone last year?) not surprisingly low ticket sales for this game, which is what you’d expect for a cold damp midweek game at the start of January when we are in such bad form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Has anyone got info on Palace team news? Going to be a tough game, chance to do the double over them (didn’t we fail to do that against anyone last year?) not surprisingly low ticket sales for this game, which is what you’d expect for a cold damp midweek game at the start of January when we are in such bad form. We did the double over Middlesbrough I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Has anyone got info on Palace team news? Going to be a tough game, chance to do the double over them (didn’t we fail to do that against anyone last year?) not surprisingly low ticket sales for this game, which is what you’d expect for a cold damp midweek game at the start of January when we are in such bad form. Puncheon out for the season apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Has anyone got info on Palace team news? Going to be a tough game, chance to do the double over them (didn’t we fail to do that against anyone last year?) not surprisingly low ticket sales for this game, which is what you’d expect for a cold damp midweek game at the start of January when we are in such bad form. No surprise really first day back at work for many, Christmas is over for many, like you say being pretty pants no doubt has an influence obviously. TV has really pigged up Christmas Fixtures Spurs played Boxing Day then nothing until tonight! then again Thursday!! Think West Ham are similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 No surprise really first day back at work for many, Christmas is over for many, like you say being pretty pants no doubt has an influence obviously. TV has really pigged up Christmas Fixtures Spurs played Boxing Day then nothing until tonight! then again Thursday!! Think West Ham are similar. Not that they give one iota about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Puncheon out for the season apparently Think so yeah, didn't he do it putting in that grim tackle on De Bruyne (as did Scott Dann)? Not a good few weeks for him really, what with the weapons charge too. Still, he does s**t where he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Has anyone got info on Palace team news? Going to be a tough game, chance to do the double over them (didn’t we fail to do that against anyone last year?) not surprisingly low ticket sales for this game, which is what you’d expect for a cold damp midweek game at the start of January when we are in such bad form. Scott Dann and Puncheon out for sure. They're also still without Joel Ward (you skate b****d) and Mammadou Sakho - so will likely be a bit of a mismatch back 4 with Kelly switching to CB alongside Tomkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Scott Dann and Puncheon out for sure. They're also still without Joel Ward (you skate b****d) and Mammadou Sakho - so will likely be a bit of a mismatch back 4 with Kelly switching to CB alongside Tomkins. Need to play positively and ensure we dominate possession - if they are patched up at the back we must put them under pressure. Worry for me if we don't is we allow Zaha to get on the ball and he'll cause us all sorts of problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Need to play positively and ensure we dominate possession - if they are patched up at the back we must put them under pressure. Worry for me if we don't is we allow Zaha to get on the ball and he'll cause us all sorts of problems. Absolutely. The other bonus is that they bust their gut against City, some of their players were out on their legs on 80mins. The injuries they have will mean quite a few of their players will have to go again.....they've been doubt a crap hand with this fixture timing for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Scott Dann and Puncheon out for sure. They're also still without Joel Ward (you skate b****d) and Mammadou Sakho - so will likely be a bit of a mismatch back 4 with Kelly switching to CB alongside Tomkins. Hope so, Kelly had a poor game at SMS in the spring when they lost 3-1 and got slated on their forum big time. Not much pace there either, would start with Long (if he is able post-OT exertions) and Gabi. Very concerning if Saints can't manage to get on the scoresheet a couple of times given that makeshift backline. Mind you, we said the same at Stoke...hope that appalling defeat doesn't cost us in May. Punch is having a bit of a time of it isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 That all adds up. Also concussion and the damaged caused is a cumulative thing, so after the clash with Lukaku it seems a wise move. Seems a daft move to me. Banged his head on Saturday, can't play on Wednesday! We really are a nation of softies. Chris Nicholl wouldn't have played 50 games for us if this was the case back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Seems a daft move to me. Banged his head on Saturday, can't play on Wednesday! We really are a nation of softies. Chris Nicholl wouldn't have played 50 games for us if this was the case back then. Its Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Need to play positively and ensure we dominate possession - if they are patched up at the back we must put them under pressure. Worry for me if we don't is we allow Zaha to get on the ball and he'll cause us all sorts of problems. the key is to kick him, right from the very first minute. I know that is prehistoric football talk, but kick him up in the air and he loses focus, starts crying and before you know it he has completely lost it. Very good player, but if you let him dictate he will run you ragged. I recall us beating Palace at their place in the Championship and I think it was Lallana that effectively double teamed him with Fox. Probably Fox's best game in a Saints shirt, but also excellent management recognising Zaha's threat and nullifying it. Recognising how good a player Zaha was, I'd be surprised if Adkins didn't try to sign Zaha that summer, but he if course went to Manure for shed loads of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Seems a daft move to me. Banged his head on Saturday, can't play on Wednesday! We really are a nation of softies. You did see the recent Alan Shearer documentary on the subject right? Our understanding of concussion has moved on a little since Chris Nicholl played. You might want to watch the movie `Concussion' starring Will Smith. Very interesting subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 You did see the recent Alan Shearer documentary on the subject right? Our understanding of concussion has moved on a little since Chris Nicholl played. You might want to watch the movie `Concussion' starring Will Smith. Very interesting subject. May have nothing to do with concussion at all but also the interview with Chris Nicholl before our LC semi last season (last one was v Liverpool as well when he was manager) one of the papers did. Was in a really bad way apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 the key is to kick him, right from the very first minute. I know that is prehistoric football talk, but kick him up in the air and he loses focus, starts crying and before you know it he has completely lost it. Very good player, but if you let him dictate he will run you ragged. I recall us beating Palace at their place in the Championship and I think it was Lallana that effectively double teamed him with Fox. Probably Fox's best game in a Saints shirt, but also excellent management recognising Zaha's threat and nullifying it. Recognising how good a player Zaha was, I'd be surprised if Adkins didn't try to sign Zaha that summer, but he if course went to Manure for shed loads of cash. Seem to remember he lost it a bit last year, claiming he was fouled before our equaliser just before half time. Wasn't the same in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Seems a daft move to me. Banged his head on Saturday, can't play on Wednesday! We really are a nation of softies. Chris Nicholl wouldn't have played 50 games for us if this was the case back then. Utterly moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Lose this and Pellegrino will go. But I think we'll win 2-1 - Bertrand and Tadic. Townsend will, of course, score a Townsend Goal because we seemingly have no concept of closing down players well known for 25-yarders when they're just outside the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Hoedt is a massive loss for this game, especially against someone so physically dominating as Benteke. Assuming that will mean Stephens will move into the center and Pied will come in at RB They may have a dismantled back 4, but we have a number of forwards who can't score. Feel like the power and pace of their front 3 will be too much for us and I can't see anything other than a Palace win. Which is concerning and would surely mean that MP needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 right well Phil Merson has predicted Palace to win 2-0. Mark Lawrenson has predicted Saints to win 1-0. I've placed £30 on Palace to win or draw double chance- think tonight will be crucial in the grand scheme of things come the end of season. We just have to beat a depleted Palace team who played just 2 days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Hoedt is a massive loss for this game, especially against someone so physically dominating as Benteke. Assuming that will mean Stephens will move into the center and Pied will come in at RB. This shows why we need to replace VvD.... They may have a dismantled back 4, but we have a number of forwards who can't score. Feel like the power and pace of their front 3 will be too much for us and I can't see anything other than a Palace win. Which is concerning and would surely mean that MP needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Seems a daft move to me. Banged his head on Saturday, can't play on Wednesday! We really are a nation of softies. Chris Nicholl wouldn't have played 50 games for us if this was the case back then. Fortunately we have moved on from those days. This is a very sensible precaution. I saw Jeff Astle's name mentioned last night on a quiz. His case is a timely reminder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Astle#Retirement,_death_and_legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Seems a daft move to me. Banged his head on Saturday, can't play on Wednesday! We really are a nation of softies. Chris Nicholl wouldn't have played 50 games for us if this was the case back then. Not the best example, Nicholl suffered brain damage from a career of heading a ball (like Jeff Astle and others), other than that I'd agree with you about the "nation of softies"/over-pampered footballers. Draw best I can imagine for us tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 I'm going to go way out on the limb here and predict a 0-0 tie. 18 more 0-0 ties and we stay up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Really hope they actually go for it tonight. You know, actually attack with purpose. If he sets them up all cautious and on the back foot we'll lose Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectraman Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 I'm going to go way out on the limb here and predict a 0-0 tie. 18 more 0-0 ties and we stay up! But we only have 17 games left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Its Tuesday. So it is! Must have been that bang in the head I got on Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Fortunately we have moved on from those days. This is a very sensible precaution. I saw Jeff Astle's name mentioned last night on a quiz. His case is a timely reminder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Astle#Retirement,_death_and_legacy Jeff Astle is indeed a very sad story. But he spent a whole career heading a very heavy laced ball that would get even heavier when wet. The earlier comment regarding concussion of American footballers is a warning to the dangers of head injuries in sport. Those affected players were running into walls in every game they played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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