Badger Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Biggest problem so far is nobody is buried yet, which is fairly unusual. A win tomorrow would be massive but anyone who wins back to back games would hugely improve their situation. Also most of the sides who have changed Manager have seen a positive impact, which is also quite unusual. Will be a tense second half of the season and probably 8 teams will be able to be relegated going into the last month of the season, Saints included as we have wasted too many points at home. Don't necessarily agree, many clubs have the 'new manager syndrome' or bounce after an appointment. Just hope if we make the change that many want it doesn't have the 'Burley effect'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 One thing I've been able to tell from todays games is the true lack of real quality in this league outside of the top 6. It really is a much of a muchness. Hudersfield have very little and it's great credit they are where they are, they're the surprise package of the season for me. Burnley look like dropping like a stone, their lack of quality is pretty clear now. Bournemouth and Brighton are two very poor sides in terms of quality. Newcastle have very little, but a great win for them. Stoke should be doing better with the players they have. A real backs to the wall effort from them, but they didn't have to worry about much as Stoke were just awful. Stoke are an example of a club who have lost their way and need to be very careful. I think they'll be ok though when you look at what else is in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Stoke lose...they are in trouble.Should get in Hoddle Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 I watched the Stoke game on the telly. Lots of people left early after the Newcastle goal. There were a few Hughes Out signs, chants etc. Supporters are making their views known to the owners, which can’t be good for Hughes. Like Saints, I tend to think that Stoke have a better squad than their results would indicate. I’d be shocked if Hughes survives this, but there again Pellegrino survived Leicester at home and I thought that was it for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Puel 3 Huddersfield 0 Amazing to think when Puel took over Leicester we were one point and one place above them we are now 10 pts and 7 places below them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Don't necessarily agree, many clubs have the 'new manager syndrome' or bounce after an appointment. Just hope if we make the change that many want it doesn't have the 'Burley effect'. Also not the Wigley effect, or the Pellegrino effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Newcastle have very little, but a great win for them. Stoke should be doing better with the players they have. A real backs to the wall effort from them, but they didn't have to worry about much as Stoke were just awful. Stoke are an example of a club who have lost their way and need to be very careful. I think they'll be ok though when you look at what else is in the league. It was a rough night last night, but notwithstanding, I'm sure that there are too many Stokes in there...! Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 1 January, 2018 Author Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Man U 1 up. Martial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Pickford needs to be chipped more often. Excellent on groundshots but tonight shows why he should be behind Butland in the England pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 So, top half for most of the season and today we dropped another two places to 15th, and quite possibly down to 17th tomorrow. Palace us a must win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 Amazing to think when Puel took over Leicester we were one point and one place above them we are now 10 pts and 7 places below them.... Better attacking players. Better Manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 One thing I've been able to tell from todays games is the true lack of real quality in this league outside of the top 6. It really is a much of a muchness. Hudersfield have very little and it's great credit they are where they are, they're the surprise package of the season for me. Burnley look like dropping like a stone, their lack of quality is pretty clear now. Bournemouth and Brighton are two very poor sides in terms of quality. Newcastle have very little, but a great win for them. Stoke should be doing better with the players they have. A real backs to the wall effort from them, but they didn't have to worry about much as Stoke were just awful. Stoke are an example of a club who have lost their way and need to be very careful. I think they'll be ok though when you look at what else is in the league. This has been obvious for ages and it's why our performance this season has been so bad. We should be 9th or 10th at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 So, top half for most of the season and today we dropped another two places to 15th, and quite possibly down to 17th tomorrow. Palace us a must win. We have not been top half for most of the season, 6 weeks out of 21 so far, and several of those 6 we were 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 1 January, 2018 Share Posted 1 January, 2018 We have not been top half for most of the season, 6 weeks out of 21 so far, and several of those 6 we were 10th. Thank you for correcting me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Better attacking players. Better Manager? Oh careful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 2 January, 2018 Share Posted 2 January, 2018 Better attacking players. Better Manager? Both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 Tottenham 0-0 West Ham with 30 mins to go. Come on Spurs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 Son is the player Shane Long fans think he is. Plenty of direct positive running but he does actually cause the defence problems, instead of just making them play a slightly earlier clearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 0-1 West Ham. Terrific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 West Ham goal Uh oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 Stunning goal West Ham ****** Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 We are ****ed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 West Ham goal Uh oh What a f*cking goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 F**k me, he meant that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 Not our year is it? That's what happens when you don't limply concede 5 goals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 West Ham have more fight and organisation than us Moyes has them set up well Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 West Ham goal Uh oh What a f*cking goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 To be fair, we were organised at Man Utd Unfortunately we didn’t follow it up in the game afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 YESSSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAndy14 Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 What a strike Son! Wow, we needed that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 Two amazing goals tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 1-1 F*cking strike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 Go and win it Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 Nice one Cyril Nice one Son Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 See what can happen when you shoot outside the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 See what can happen when you shoot outside the box. Catholic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 January, 2018 Share Posted 4 January, 2018 Looking at the match stats West Ham should have been hammered worse than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Looking at the match stats West Ham should have been hammered worse than us. Stats are one thing - but watching the game it was apparent WHU played with much more desire and organisation than we did against Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Looking at the match stats West Ham should have been hammered worse than us. The only stat that really matters to us this season is points in the league - and we need more (or a better goal difference) than 3 other clubs, simple as that. It sucks to be thinking about a relegation battle but that's what we're in. The worrying thing this season is that nobody is being left behind. Normally there's one turd of a club that's left behind looking to reach double figures - this season there isn't and so every point is precious, something we didn't get against Palace, and something West Ham did get tonight (and wonderstrike aside, they nearly got all 3.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 14 January, 2018 Share Posted 14 January, 2018 Could today have been any worse? Bournemouth beat gunners to leapfrog us, down to dalek territory, and the f*cking scousers turn over citeh. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 14 January, 2018 Share Posted 14 January, 2018 Could today have been any worse? Bournemouth beat gunners to leapfrog us, down to dalek territory, and the f*cking scousers turn over citeh. FFS. Have wanted someone to beat City all season, typical that when a team finally does it, it's one of the few teams I dislike even more. That seems to happen a lot. I hate football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 January, 2018 Share Posted 14 January, 2018 Needed city to lose somewhen. Clutching at straws a bit but the last game of the season would be so much harder if they've got an unbeaten record to play for. Fingers crossed they make the cup final and the champions league final, it'll make our game a lower priority. Ideally I'd like Liverpool & Spurs to miss out on champions league qualification , but because Arsenal are abject that looks unlikely. I know he's had a bit of forum rehabilitation lately but I still want that Argie way anchor to fail at Spurs . Would love to see their side raped by the big boys as we have been. So a Liverpool win helps that cause. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 14 January, 2018 Share Posted 14 January, 2018 Needed city to lose somewhen. Clutching at straws a bit but the last game of the season would be so much harder if they've got an unbeaten record to play for. Fingers crossed they make the cup final and the champions league final, it'll make our game a lower priority. Ideally I'd like Liverpool & Spurs to miss out on champions league qualification , but because Arsenal are abject that looks unlikely. I know he's had a bit of forum rehabilitation lately but I still want that Argie way anchor to fail at Spurs . Would love to see their side raped by the big boys as we have been. So a Liverpool win helps that cause. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk A few straws being tightly clutched there me-old-Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 14 January, 2018 Share Posted 14 January, 2018 Needed city to lose somewhen. Clutching at straws a bit but the last game of the season would be so much harder if they've got an unbeaten record to play for. Fingers crossed they make the cup final and the champions league final, it'll make our game a lower priority. Ideally I'd like Liverpool & Spurs to miss out on champions league qualification , but because Arsenal are abject that looks unlikely. I know he's had a bit of forum rehabilitation lately but I still want that Argie way anchor to fail at Spurs . Would love to see their side raped by the big boys as we have been. So a Liverpool win helps that cause. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Out of curiosity why do you think Poch is a wan ker? He’s generally one of the nicest blokes in the game, especially at manager level. I’m glad he’s doing so well. If it’s down to the fact we couldn’t persuade him to stay and Tottenham offered more ambition then that makes you look a bit silly and bitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 January, 2018 Share Posted 14 January, 2018 Out of curiosity why do you think Poch is a wan ker? He’s generally one of the nicest blokes in the game, especially at manager level. I’m glad he’s doing so well. If it’s down to the fact we couldn’t persuade him to stay and Tottenham offered more ambition then that makes you look a bit silly and bitter. Sorry I forgot I need to check with you who it's acceptable to dislike. Lallana, I take it that's fine, what about Lovren, that's allowed is it, maybe VvD. If disliking someone who shat on the club is "silly and bitter" , then we're all guilty. At least the people I dislike and want to fail don't still work for the club. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 14 January, 2018 Share Posted 14 January, 2018 Sorry I forgot I need to check with you who it's acceptable to dislike. Lallana, I take it that's fine, what about Lovren, that's allowed is it, maybe VvD. If disliking someone who shat on the club is "silly and bitter" , then we're all guilty. At least the people I dislike and want to fail don't still work for the club. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Did I say it wasn’t acceptable or that you need to ask anyone’s permission? I just asked your reasons and as suspected, it’s because you’re bitter about him moving on to bigger, better things. FWIW he didn’t ‘**** on the club’ at all. He gave us the opportunity to convince him to stay, we couldn’t do that, he left and both parties still hold mutual respect. At no point, unlike Koeman, did he give us the impression he would stay as your manager. Lovren, VVD and all the others it was generally expected. Lallana is the one that ‘hurt’ the most, given all that we done for him and the way he went about his move. Similar to Fonte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 January, 2018 Share Posted 14 January, 2018 Did I say it wasn’t acceptable or that you need to ask anyone’s permission? I just asked your reasons and as suspected, it’s because you’re bitter about him moving on to bigger and better things . I wouldn’t expect a bloke who posted that he hoped we’d lose last week to understand. I want Spurs to lose, I want Liverpool to lose, that may make me bitter, what does wanting Southampton to lose make you? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 14 January, 2018 Share Posted 14 January, 2018 Did I say it wasn’t acceptable or that you need to ask anyone’s permission? I just asked your reasons and as suspected, it’s because you’re bitter about him moving on to bigger, better things. FWIW he didn’t ‘**** on the club’ at all. He gave us the opportunity to convince him to stay, we couldn’t do that, he left and both parties still hold mutual respect. At no point, unlike Koeman, did he give us the impression he would stay as your manager. Lovren, VVD and all the others it was generally expected. Lallana is the one that ‘hurt’ the most, given all that we done for him and the way he went about his move. Similar to Fonte. That's not what I remember. What I remember is he ****ed off to Spurs at the first opportunity, despite our board trying their best to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 January, 2018 Share Posted 15 January, 2018 That's not what I remember. What I remember is he ****ed off to Spurs at the first opportunity, despite our board trying their best to keep him. To be fair you can’t blame him. He wanted to keep the team together and add and build something amazing, he wasn’t allowed to and had a fantastic opportunity at an underachieving club. I don’t like him for it but you can certainly see it from his perspective. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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