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First team coach= laying out cones, distributing bibs, implementing the manager's training sessions (because the manager has better things to do than freeze his b*****ks off) and generally engaging in motivational bantz.

 

Like his predecessor Eric Black, his influence will be limited. The rest is mongboard melodrama.

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First team coach= laying out cones, distributing bibs, implementing the manager's training sessions (because the manager has better things to do than freeze his b*****ks off) and generally engaging in motivational bantz.

 

Like his predecessor Eric Black, his influence will be limited. The rest is mongboard melodrama.

 

Yep and it's First team Assistant coach

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A new assistant coach who is an Argentine or a former colleague of MP from Spain would be more of a concern. This is a "you'll do" appointment, suggesting an expectation that things are likely to evolve in the coming weeks.

 

Whatever you think about this move, it certainly isn't that MP is secure in his job.

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Not sure if this is a bit of a fop to the supporters, perhaps intended to give a friendly face in the coaching set up to try and deflect the fans anger, or a fop to the players if its true that MP has a strained relationship with the squad.

 

Feel a bit sorry for Kelvin as this propels him into the front line and gives a bit of a thankless task. If he does well presumably MP soaks up the credit, if results continue as they are through no fault of Kelvin's, he might find himself out if a new man arrives and wants to bring his own team.

 

He will certainly be a popular caretaker if called upon though.

 

 

Might have expected him to be a specialist GK coach in time.

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I'm thinking Eric Martin...prone to the odd error or two.

 

I only remember one Eric Martin error, when he dropped a West Ham free kick over the line in the 3rd round of the FA Cup in 1975. Think that might have been his last game for us, certainly one of them, before Lawrie brought in firstly Steve Middleton then Ian Turner.

 

Ian Andrews was pretty poor as I recall.

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Ridiculous decision.....used to appease the disgruntled fans,along with the long list of players we are now linked with.

Our PR department working overtime.

 

 

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Who is it supposed to appease? Seriously, how in any way whatsoever is that appointment supposed to appease anyone, disgruntled or otherwise. Who is thinking "oh what a relief, it's all going to be ok now Kelvin Davis has been made first team coach"?

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I only remember one Eric Martin error, when he dropped a West Ham free kick over the line in the 3rd round of the FA Cup in 1975. Think that might have been his last game for us, certainly one of them, before Lawrie brought in firstly Steve Middleton then Ian Turner.

 

Ian Andrews was pretty poor as I recall.

 

There was the small matter of the 7-0 hiding we took from Leeds.

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Who is it supposed to appease? Seriously, how in any way whatsoever is that appointment supposed to appease anyone, disgruntled or otherwise. Who is thinking "oh what a relief, it's all going to be ok now Kelvin Davis has been made first team coach"?

 

I think this may well be how our board thinks, such is their la la land ignorance

 

 

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Hey, a top to the suppporters is it? If only the Club read this site they’d know that any and every decision the6 make is wrong.

 

There’s no pulling the wool over the eyes of everyone in here, only those supporters not enlightened enough to be a part of this self-reinforcing knocking shop.

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Not if the club think he's been doing a good enough job behind the scenes. He hasn't just walked into this job by the way, I know first hand that he has been taking all of his coaching badges (succesfully) and is highly thought of at the club in that regard and has been in and around the first team for the last few months.

 

So if the club think he’s good enough he is...????

As is Pellegrino according to the ‘club’

Why are people apprehensive about this appointment then I wonder....!!!!

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I feel a bit under informed to post on here, a little bit inadequate because of my lack of knowledge. Unlike the vast majority of posters in this thread I have no idea of Kelvins coaching abilities . Do not know what badges he holds or which ones he's taking, do not know whether he's got the makings of a decent coach or not. I do not even know what his specific duties are within his role . I did think about posting anyway, but decided that it's probably better to know a bit about it before doing so. I don't want to be seen as just confirming my prejudice against every decision the club makes.

 

 

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A new assistant coach who is an Argentine or a former colleague of MP from Spain would be more of a concern. This is a "you'll do" appointment, suggesting an expectation that things are likely to evolve in the coming weeks.

 

Whatever you think about this move, it certainly isn't that MP is secure in his job.

 

Have to say, this was my immediate reaction as well.

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First team coach= laying out cones, distributing bibs, implementing the manager's training sessions (because the manager has better things to do than freeze his b*****ks off) and generally engaging in motivational bantz.

 

Like his predecessor Eric Black, his influence will be limited. The rest is mongboard melodrama.

 

This is way too simplistic. A proper coach watches the players train and gives advice on technique, movement, positioning. We have plenty of young players that still have a lot to learn despite being professional footballers. Coaches are meant to coach, not be glorified ball boys.

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The people who coach can tell us how long it takes/took them to get the A licence, but this might give some idea:

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/6r6au8/how_long_does_it_take_to_get_all_5_coaching/

 

If he started in July 2016 then he can't have more than the B licence so ... not very well qualified and not much exposure to real coaching and thus externally I would say there's no idea of how good he is.

 

Sounds a bit incestuous/nepotic (ignoring the lack of family, of course). If this is what the Gaos bring ... hum.

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The people who coach can tell us how long it takes/took them to get the A licence, but this might give some idea:

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/6r6au8/how_long_does_it_take_to_get_all_5_coaching/

 

If he started in July 2016 then he can't have more than the B licence so ... not very well qualified and not much exposure to real coaching and thus externally I would say there's no idea of how good he is.

 

Sounds a bit incestuous/nepotic (ignoring the lack of family, of course). If this is what the Gaos bring ... hum.

 

I believe he may have started his badges before that and, for the first few steps, a professional or ex pro gets to "skip" a few rungs...

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Good Luck Kelv! who knows maybe it's the magic of christmas.........and a saviour will rise from our own ranks........to bring on a new era of Saints domination, all Hail King Kelv............hmm not drunk sherry before.......seems good to me :) COYS!!

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Didn't dino zoff manage lazio once? Possible in the gazza era? Think he did ok, sat on the bench puffing away on his cigarettes.

What the Dino Zoff that took Italy to the Euro2000 final? Yeah he managed Lazio, over three stints, either side of the national team. Management and coaching is not about what you did on the field as a player as Wenger and Mourinho have proved beyond doubt.
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Obviously, I have no idea about Kelvin’s coaching skills or how influential his player-liaison role has been, but it seems pretty clear that there has been a serious trust/respect problem between the players and the management/board over the last 18 months. Coincidentally, the period since Kelvin was appointed.

 

Maybe he’s just been a loyal servant of Puel/Pellegrino, maybe he’s been too junior to have any impact on player morale or maybe he’s given the players a route to moan to the board over the head of Puel/Pellegrino (and may have helped persuade Les to sack Puel).

 

Whichever of these three is true, it’s hard to see how he can have had any positive impact on the trust between the players and management/board to have earned himself this promotion.

 

The only way I can imagine he’s had a positive impact is if he’s managed to prevent the players’ attitudes over the last 18 months from being even worse. Hard to imagine!

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Making a 'safe' internal appointment like this might paradoxically indicate that the board don't really have a lot of faith in long-term prospects of the coaching staff - especially if something of a clear-out is required to bring in a new manager.

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