Bad Wolf Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Personally I think he's class and he'll be a huge asset for Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Hasn't ever really changed -- He has all the tools needed to potentially be world class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Brilliant player, won't alone solve Liverpool's issues but will go some way to making them better. Obviously there are question marks over his character. Don't imagine it would cross his mind at all but contrast the way he has behaved and the way his new team mate Coutinho has and it speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 One of, if not the best defender in the league. Wouldn’t look out of place at Barca, Real or Bayern. Intrigued to see how things pan out for him at Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 If he applies himself, he'll be at a top club in 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Great in the air, good on the ball and such an asset to bring the ball out of defence. Sometimes has suspect positioning and does switch off from time to time. Main difference between him and Hoedt (Who is pretty similar) is he has good acceleration/pace which is such an bonus for a centreback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Our best player by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 He is a rolls royce of a centre half, glides with the ball, brushes most players off with his strength and recovers if he needs to with his pace. There aren't many weaknesses to his game and he's just coming into his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 I'm not so sure. Didn't look great for Celtic in their CL games. Obviously was good for us when he could be arsed, but I do feel there is a bit of overrating here. He's not THAT great is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Probably the best defender I’ve seen in a Saints shirt in the last 40 years.......that’s before the Vardy inflicted injury. Been pretty ordinary this season, I hope that continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 The thing is hes an amazing player when on form but if hes even slightly miffed in any way he can just give up on the pitch as we have witnessed..... Liverpool will have to keep him happy to get the best out of him.... may feel he is too good for Liverpool too in a year or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 The only saints player I've ever seen who would be worth a place at Barcelona. And I include le tiss in that assessment. He's that good. And yet bizarrely, if i could pick my all time centre half pairing (noting that I'm just too young to rate mark wright) I'd choose aldewiereld and sevensson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Astounded that he's chosen Liverpool when he could have his pick of clubs. Class player, arrogant ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Top class defender but still think Alderweireld was better. Will be a success at Liverpool like Mane i reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 as a footballer he is superb as a professional he is shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Pure quality. When he first came here you could see his class, so comfortable on the ball, top notch passing and never looked flustered. After the injury it remains to be seen, he was out a long time although obviously we don't know how much of that time was really due to the injury. If he gets back to the same player he was then I can easily see him at one of the elite world clubs in a couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 28 December, 2017 Author Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Astounded that he's chosen Liverpool when he could have his pick of clubs. Class player, arrogant ****. Is he though? He wants to go on to bigger and better things. I can't say I blame him. Of course, he could have gone about it differently but that's neither here nor there. I don't wish him well but I don't wish him ill-fortune either. When his name is read out on Liverpool's teamsheet when we play them, it'll be a "Meh" reaction from me. Somewhere between Lambert and Lovren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 28 December, 2017 Author Share Posted 28 December, 2017 First half Vs Bombey, he was the only played that looked like they gave a sh1t. Yet he was the only player you wouldn't expect to give a sh1t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Very much looking forward to the day he goes on strike to force his move to Barcelona or Madrid. Great player when he applies himself, nowhere near the finished article yet. 75mil is outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Devastated that he has joined another stepping stone rather then going to the top of the Pyramid. His ability deserved better then Liverpool. As a human being he is made for that dreadful place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Pure quality. When he first came here you could see his class, so comfortable on the ball, top notch passing and never looked flustered. After the injury it remains to be seen, he was out a long time although obviously we don't know how much of that time was really due to the injury. If he gets back to the same player he was then I can easily see him at one of the elite world clubs in a couple of seasons. Would agree with your assessment if he is fully recovered from that Vardy injury. It may that his head wasn’t quite right or lack of a proper pre season but looked well off his best this year. Loved the fact he was an offensive threat at set pieces as well. Will have to tighten up on concentration with that price tag. Up there with the best Saints CBs, just behind Svensson and Mark Wright in my time as a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Clearly a good player but who knows how it will pan out. I thought Morgan was Class, I thought Clyne was class, I thought Shaw would go on to be a top top player, I thought Ox would have achieved more than he has you can never tell whether players have the mental side of the game to handle a big club move until they go. He could go on to be excellent for them and I wouldn't be surprised though if he goes on to be ****e I shall laugh my bollix off. good player massive dickhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 If his poor form was down to his attitude and not the injury , He can be a top player for Liverpool but like Lallana if he had played the game properly and treated the club with a bit of respect we wouldn't have known how much of a **** he was ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Clearly a good player but who knows how it will pan out. I thought Morgan was Class, I thought Clyne was class, I thought Shaw would go on to be a top top player, I thought Ox would have achieved more than he has you can never tell whether players have the mental side of the game to handle a big club move until they go. He could go on to be excellent for them and I wouldn't be surprised though if he goes on to be ****e I shall laugh my bollix off. good player massive dickhead. Good post - only really Mane and to some extent Lallana have worked out. Morgan apart from the very start at Everton as not looked the same as at SFC which was a surprise. Shaw was just getting into his stride but that horror injury v PSV and Mourinho doesn’t rate his approach to the game, something that was hinted at by the ITKs here at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Good player, but a little over-rated in my opinion and not world class. This isn't sour grapes by the way, I've been saying it for some time. Vokes gave him a torrid time a season or two ago. £75m is an insane amount of money for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 It'll be interesting to see how he does given that most players that leave us for bigger and better things rarely seem to improve. Of the following players which are better, worse, or about the same since leaving Saints? Clyne - I'd say about the same. Lovren - Worse. Mane - Better. Lallana - Can't call this one. Liverpool fans say he's a better player but I'm not convinced. Shaw - Worse. Schneiderlin - Worse. Wanyama - Better. Alderwiereld - Better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Not all players do well after a big money transfer , depends if he thinks he's made it so can relax . If he had gone to City he wouldn't be allowed to take it easy , big fish here but will have to prove himself with Klopp even though it is an easier option than City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 If he fulfills his potential, he'll be at Liverpool for 2 years max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Is he though? He wants to go on to bigger and better things. I can't say I blame him. Of course, he could have gone about it differently but that's neither here nor there. I don't wish him well but I don't wish him ill-fortune either. When his name is read out on Liverpool's teamsheet when we play them, it'll be a "Meh" reaction from me. Somewhere between Lambert and Lovren I hope he gets a career ending injury in his first game for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Top class CB, if he carries on improving he'll go to a big club within 2 years. Probably not quite as good as Toby, but probably has the potential to surpass him. Shame he is such a *****...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 28 December, 2017 Author Share Posted 28 December, 2017 I hope he gets a career ending injury in his first game for them. A bit harsh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 I see on BBC Sport Neil Warnock says Sol Bamba is better than VVD - tongue firmly in cheek surely? Talking of CBs, Caulker leaves QPR by mutual consent. Sad, wasn’t a loan that worked out here but seemingly troubled individual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Same as always. Natural sportsman. Too lazy to work hard enough to get to his best. Has lapses in concentration. Not good enough to be one of the very best. Still better than 75% of what's out there mainly because of his speed but if he was that good why wasn't he the first name on the Dutch national team teamsheet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Classy on his day. Will be interesting to see how he copes of being under the microscope of every goal going in. You can see the media dissecting every goal and they will be looking for VVD part in each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 If he fulfills his potential, he'll be at Liverpool for 2 years max. I agree, but don't call me Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 He'll end up becoming one of the best CB's in the world at Liverpool. He was on his way there for us but his head was turned and he became disinterested. He's got the move he wanted now and will assert himself and when he does that, there are few CB's better than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint93 Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Top top class, not been the same this season but can’t ignore the fact how good he was before his injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Excellent player, ****ty person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Great player. Awful professional. Horribly entitled spoiled human being. Actually glad that he's gone. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashnats Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Decent cb who works well in a defensive team setup where he can afford to drift out of position. Doesn’t have the concentration of a world class player, but if he does apply himself he could play for a top 3 prem team, and I assume he will automatically become a regular in the Dutch team now he is at Liverpool. Think he is going to his level, he’s good enough for Liverpool, but not good enough for the big teams. Think he’ll do ok, probably similar career wise to lovren, can see him going to a West Ham or Everton in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Needs to bulk up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadam Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 He'll end up becoming one of the best CB's in the world at Liverpool. He was on his way there for us but his head was turned and he became disinterested. He's got the move he wanted now and will assert himself and when he does that, there are few CB's better than him. This. When Alderweierld left I thought we would never see a better cb at the club. I was wrong. VVD was insanely good last year, if he carries on like that he won’t stay long in Liverpool. He is a complete CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 He is pure class. Will make a massive difference for them. I'd make him captain if I were Klopp. They'll challenge next year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Clearly a top player but let’s not get carried away, Lovren looked like a top player at Southampton but he’s one of the worst ever Liverpool centre backs. I remember all the ****ing over Schneiderlin and he couldn’t cut it at a top club. Walcott was supposed to be the next Pele and turned out to be an Arsenal bit part player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 No question he is a very good player but I never got the hype surrounding him. For all his good points he: Missed quite a few easy headers Missed quite a few easy shots Switched off at times Played a bit lazy at times Attitude surrounding the move and his lazy play after the injury and refusing to play makes me wonder if he’ll be able to hack it at a big club. We’ll see I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 The only saints player I've ever seen who would be worth a place at Barcelona. And I include le tiss in that assessment. He's that good. And yet bizarrely, if i could pick my all time centre half pairing (noting that I'm just too young to rate mark wright) I'd choose aldewiereld and sevensson. Did you never see Bale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 I truly hope he never plays as well for them as he did for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Choosing Liverpool shows that he's interested in more than money, which I like. He's clearly excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanta Saint Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 I see on BBC Sport Neil Warnock says Sol Bamba is better than VVD - tongue firmly in cheek surely? Talking of CBs, Caulker leaves QPR by mutual consent. Sad, wasn’t a loan that worked out here but seemingly troubled individual Moved to Liverpool after Saints sent him back.....and played as striker if I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 28 December, 2017 Share Posted 28 December, 2017 Did you never see Bale? Sure did. And I stand by my comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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