DT Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 No team worse in the league at present. Not one Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Absolutely brilliant interview with Hojberg. Guy is wise beyond his years and it is clear there are issues in the dressing room.....and not one mention by Hoj of the clueless f*****t that is our manager. No doubt Hoj's reward for playing well will be to be benched against Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfc Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 How old are you ...11......? His parents wont be happy with him crayoning the TV. We scored 2 away from home, happy days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Absolutely brilliant interview with Hojberg. Guy is wise beyond his years and it is clear there are issues in the dressing room.....and not one mention by Hoj of the clueless f*****t that is our manager. No doubt Hoj's reward for playing well will be to be benched against Utd. What did he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monosaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Only players to come out with any credit were Hojberg and Targett. Hojberg should play every game.. If we sack MP then who do we bring in. Please, not Tony Pulis. Cannot think who would be a good replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 The defensive coaching is ridiculous. Salah, Mahrez, and Alli were allowed to cut across the box on their shooting foot and hit the goal. Why weren't they pressed onto their weak foot and made to go outside. Romeu showed Alli the inside line today FFS, that is just stupidity, just like thinking challenging behind an attacker at a free kick and unable to reach the ball is defending. Defenders have to attack the ball not stand off. We need the defenders coached to win the header not let the attacker get in front of them. Kane today and the equaliser against Arsenal and Huddersfield. There is a lack of direction from the coaches. Winning the ball is more important than zonal stand watching as the ball hits the back of the net with the spectating goalkeeper showing no leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 What did he say? Asked if playing 4-3-3 was a mistake (could have sworn it was 9-1) and he said no. Said the team is really good and they all need to ask themselves if they are doing enough. Very frustrated with how they played today and said squad is good but performances are not and they have to play as a team. Said that right now they all have to be as one and that this is a difficult time. Not once did he mention MP. Probably have some of what he said wrong but that was the general gist of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Pellegrino confirms Austin will be out "for a long time". Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmonkey1979 Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 The defensive coaching is ridiculous. Salah, Mahrez, and Alli were allowed to cut across the box on their shooting foot and hit the goal. Why weren't they pressed onto their weak foot and made to go outside. Romeu showed Alli the inside line today FFS, that is just stupidity, just like thinking challenging behind an attacker at a free kick and unable to reach the ball is defending. Defenders have to attack the ball not stand off. We need the defenders coached to win the header not let the attacker get in front of them. Kane today and the equaliser against Arsenal and Huddersfield. There is a lack of direction from the coaches. Winning the ball is more important than zonal stand watching as the ball hits the back of the net with the spectating goalkeeper showing no leadership.It's basic stuff too. Romeu for the first goal lined up with Kane goal side if him and had no chance after that. He even pushed him to the ball. Get goal side and you give yourself a chance. Simple Sunday morning defending that shouldn't even need coaching. It's common sense more than anything. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 The defensive coaching is ridiculous. Salah, Mahrez, and Alli were allowed to cut across the box on their shooting foot and hit the goal. Why weren't they pressed onto their weak foot and made to go outside. Romeu showed Alli the inside line today FFS, that is just stupidity, just like thinking challenging behind an attacker at a free kick and unable to reach the ball is defending. Defenders have to attack the ball not stand off. We need the defenders coached to win the header not let the attacker get in front of them. Kane today and the equaliser against Arsenal and Huddersfield. There is a lack of direction from the coaches. Winning the ball is more important than zonal stand watching as the ball hits the back of the net with the spectating goalkeeper showing no leadership. True. It would also be helpful if someone could persuade our statuesque goalkeeper to make an attempt at collecting crosses in the 6 yard box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 we won the last 40 minutes 2-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanghai Saint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Embarrassing. We need the manager out now and Reed needs to follow. Redmond is a ****ing joke, glad he got boo'd by our fans. Yep, booing him, that’ll make him buck up his ideas! Just genius ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Asked if playing 4-3-3 was a mistake (could have sworn it was 9-1) and he said no. Said the team is really good and they all need to ask themselves if they are doing enough. Very frustrated with how they played today and said squad is good but performances are not and they have to play as a team. Said that right now they all have to be as one and that this is a difficult time. Not once did he mention MP. Probably have some of what he said wrong but that was the general gist of it. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Pellegrino confirms Austin will be out "for a long time". Oh dear. Charlie is a great injury prone. We should never be in a position to rely on him like we have been doing. We have to give 'staying up' a try with everything we've got, but how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Charlie is a great injury prone. We should never be in a position to rely on him like we have been doing. We have to give 'staying up' a try with everything we've got, but how? We've got to spend the Virgil cash wisely but we can't allow Pellegrino to be the one to spend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 We've got to spend the Virgil cash wisely but we can't allow Pellegrino to be the one to spend it. A key part of spending it wisely would be spending whatever it takes to replace him with a competent manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Rather he left than bucked up his ideas to be honest. Tadic/Boufal/Sims/McQueen/Hesketh can all offer at very least the same zero goals and hopefully with less attitude. Absolutely. Would rather see Sims/McQ or Hesketh on over Redmond every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Rather he left than bucked up his ideas to be honest. Agreed. The relationship has broken down to the extent that the kindest thing for all concerned would be if he ****ed off in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 I remember back in the summer Koeman was gone (and Mane etc) we were told by our reliable ITK's (K,billy, GUAN etc) that the entire club is having a change of direction/change of approach, yet it was never eluded to as to what that was. Now we know! In all seriousness, I have a feeling that certain people at the club didn't like the power that Koeman had, so the new approcah after he was 'gone' was to pull the reigns back a bit and allow more input from wider voices at the 'club' on first team affairs - hence why we've hired two realitvley subdued managers. Another telling thing for me was the signing of Redmond without a manager in place, that should have rung alarm bells. We miss a strong leader at the top of it all. I know people talk about modern football being all about the club/not just the manager etc, that's how you're succesfull etc , but I don't really buy that. The manager should be your focal point, everything goes through him and he should be a strong enough character to handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 So we have it confirmed that there are problems in the dressing room. And that is with VVD to all intents and purposes out of the picture. We had hints of it in Puel's reign. Toxic situation that will likely result in relegation unless the trouble-maker(s) are shipped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Gotta assume that’s the final nail in the coffin. A performance akin to arsenal, utd & city games was needed and instead it was an embarrassing hammering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Of course they do, that’s pretty much all they care about Remember that interview with the venkys when the guy didn't seem to have realised that blackburn could be relegated? Not that they weren't near the bottom of the league, but that relegations actually happened at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 So we have it confirmed that there are problems in the dressing room. And that is with VVD to all intents and purposes out of the picture. We had hints of it in Puel's reign. Toxic situation that will likely result in relegation unless the trouble-maker(s) are shipped out. I heard that Tadic was 'described' as the cancer of the changing room by a fellow first team player (who is on the fringes). Make of that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 I heard that Tadic was 'described' as the cancer of the changing room by a fellow first team player (who is on the fringes). Make of that what you will. mmm...wouldn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 It's basic stuff too. Romeu for the first goal lined up with Kane goal side if him and had no chance after that. He even pushed him to the ball. Get goal side and you give yourself a chance. Simple Sunday morning defending that shouldn't even need coaching. It's common sense more than anything. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk The whole point is that the players are all being told where to stand and what position to be in for every aspect of the game. If you watch closely you can see the players going to exactly where they are told. They are actually being ‘coached’ to do all the wrong things it’s bloody bizarre..... This almost without doubt includes Redmond.... In fact all the team including Forster being told to stand like a statue on his line and never come for a cross. If these players wearnt acting under instructions why aren’t they dropped? Ask yourself this.... We see good players playing well - we think but those same players are evidently not playing to instructions so ARE dropped the very next game! Pellugrino’s positional coaching is totally flawed! This guy is really very odd indeed... He must be gobsmacked that he has found himself in this elevated position ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 I heard that Tadic was 'described' as the cancer of the changing room by a fellow first team player (who is on the fringes). Make of that what you will. Pellegrino has to go he clearly isn’t the only problem as became clear last term too. Puel and MP have been Reed’s puppets and look where it has got us. Can’t stand VVD or Tadic. JWP is deluded and belongs in the Championship. Fraser like plasterboard. Redmond just spends his time moaning, bottling it or giving ball away, deserved stick today. Davis great servant but horribly past it. Reed to go as well, new experienced manager with VVD dosh, 7 or 8 other out and influx in to try and generate some sense of momentum, effort or interest in staying up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 I heard that Tadic was 'described' as the cancer of the changing room by a fellow first team player (who is on the fringes). Make of that what you will. The way he looked elated with his goal today alludes to someone more interested in himself than the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 26 December, 2017 Author Share Posted 26 December, 2017 We were ****e before, but take Austin, VVD, Bertrand and Cedric out and we look like a relegation battle waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Lucky to keep them down to 5 today. We have the toxic mix of no structure/style of play & players going through the motions. Keeper is woeful, both in the saves he doesn’t make but also the organisation. He’s ****ing useless and it’s part of his job to shout and organise people. Across the whole pitch we have no leaders, no real men. The manager will lose his job, but I want these players out within a couple of years. They’re a ****ing disgrace to the shirt. I feel for Jack Stephens, he’s not a right back and his career could really stall chucking him there with this bunch of fairies. Matt Targett best player imo today. However it’s one of those games where players only started trying when it was 4. Easy to do, the opposition come off the boil a touch and players try to cover their arses. When it mattered we were woeful. No surprise at all that the 4th came once we pulled one back. A glimmer of hope, it mattered and we fell apart. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 We were ****e before, but take Austin, VVD, Bertrand and Cedric out and we look like a relegation battle waiting to happen. The clown says Austin is out for a long time too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Watching Forster is like watching a giant redwood being felled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 . Puel and MP have been Reed’s puppets and look where it has got us. What a load of pony. What puppet refuses to change his style when asked to by the puppeteer. Where does all this nonsense come from. What evidence have you got that Puel was a puppet. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 How many goals have we conceded from outside the area btw? It seems to happen almost every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 That moment when you realise the forum "trolls" knew what they were talking about............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 How many goals have we conceded from outside the area btw? It seems to happen almost every game.I think it was about 8 this season before today. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 What a load of pony. What puppet refuses to change his style when asked to by the puppeteer. Where does all this nonsense come from. What evidence have you got that Puel was a puppet. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk The puppet that wouldn’t stand up to Reed in either last summer’s window leaving with us with Europa League group stages and only 3 strikers. Redmond as a striker. Only if you are a patsy. Puel should have had Reed on toast for the January CB debacle, didn’t see any pressure applied whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 That moment when you realise the forum "trolls" knew what they were talking about............. Or, most supporters are willing to support the team and give players and managers a chance to show their stuff before sounding the clanging chimes of doom. Apologies to Midge Ure and Bob Geldoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 That moment when you realise the forum "trolls" knew what they were talking about............. One part of that is correct..... Guess which bit everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 The puppet that wouldn’t stand up to Reed in either last summer’s window leaving with us with Europa League group stages and only 3 strikers. Redmond as a striker. Only if you are a patsy. Puel should have had Reed on toast for the January CB debacle, didn’t see any pressure applied whatsoever You have no idea what conversations Puel and Reed had last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Just back from the game. Turkey sandwiches were nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 The body language of some of our 'players' told its own story.I also can't believe they scored from 'our' throw in in their half but they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoateallthepies Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Charlie is a great injury prone. We should never be in a position to rely on him like we have been doing. We have to give 'staying up' a try with everything we've got, but how? We could start by the board realising we effectively have 11/12 games to stay up (excluding against the 'big' clubs) with the games in March looking like they will go a long way to deciding it. Get a new manager in now who understands what is necessary to squeeze maximum points from those games through a combination of existing players with any heart left plus a few new heads with fight in them. Skill not necessarily required at this stage. Scrap enough points to stay up (couldn't give a toss now how we do it) and hopefully reset the club on an upward curve in the summer. Look - it's Christmas - we can all dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Only players to come out with any credit were Hojberg and Targett. Hojberg should play every game.. If we sack MP then who do we bring in. Please, not Tony Pulis. Cannot think who would be a good replacement. Pulis confirmed as new Middlesbrough manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 You have no idea what conversations Puel and Reed had last season Very compliant of you - but if he wasn’t getting what he needed off Reed then use the press conferences to say you are short in this area and that area plus using your agent to brief. Being ambitious, that’s what I’d have done. Reed’s increased involvement with the first team has been disasterous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Very compliant of you - but if he wasn’t getting what he needed off Reed then use the press conferences to say you are short in this area and that area plus using your agent to brief. Being ambitious, that’s what I’d have done. Reed’s increased involvement with the first team has been disasterous Mouth of in public then, would be poor but I repeat you have not idea what chats they had..... None at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Reed’s increased involvement with the first team has been disasterous Is there any evidence of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Is there any evidence of this? There is none just in some heads on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffnut Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Did I really hear that joke of a manager say that he could take some positives from that game, just totally sums up how useless he is. If he has not gone before the ManU game the I think that this club are relegation certainties, do the board want to wait until we are in the bottom 3 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 The team don’t care, they aren’t playing for anyone. Goodbye MP Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 So we have it confirmed that there are problems in the dressing room. And that is with VVD to all intents and purposes out of the picture. We had hints of it in Puel's reign. Toxic situation that will likely result in relegation unless the trouble-maker(s) are shipped out. What's been said? Not that it comes as a surprise with perennial moaners Tadic and Redmond in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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