St Chalet Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 [Placeholder] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Prowsey just on Solent saying we have enough quality in the squad to still aim for Europe. Said the lads will be working hard in training ahead of Man Utd as they are better than they have showed this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Prowsey just on Solent saying we have enough quality in the squad to still aim for Europe. Said the lads will be working hard in training ahead of Man Utd as they are better than they have showed this year.Utterly deluded if that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 For an intelligent bloke, Prowse is ****ing special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 For an intelligent bloke, Prowse is ****ing special Good dry humour from St Chalet. JWP is just repeating the myths and untruths that clearly pervade behind the scenes at an increasingly desperate St Mary's, a club with huge problems. It started with the seeming untruth that Gao would have the investment potential to keep us top 10, KL wouldn't sell to anyone who wouldn't do the best for the club etc. Then Reed's promised style of play on appointing Pellegrino, Pellegrino's own astonishing delusions in press conferences and the meaningless PR guff from the players, such as this but we've also seen it from the likes of Redmond. Only player who has come close to revealing the truth is Romeu, and even he's been shocking this year. Have always wanted Saints to win, even today when I have no time at all for the owners, DoF, Manager and players, but please, if we are going to lose, Harry Kane please score a few so the ultra negative style of play gets no reward with an 'unlucky' 1-0 defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 "I didn't see the incident, I'm not sure how Harry Kane got a broken nose because I didn't see it. I saw the blood, I saw the red card the referee gave Wesley, but I didn't see the incident." "He is class, he gives us dimensions - he showed his talent by scoring a hattrick today. It's unfortunate we conceded six goals at the other end, but a great hattrick for Nathan." "We have good defenders in this squad. That's why I started with 8." He won't say one of these... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 It was a tough game but I thought we were in the game until Spurs scored in the 3rd minute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 "We worked hard and dominated much of the game/1st half/2nd half." "We were unlucky not to get at least a point." "We showed our quality throughout and deserved a result." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Struggling to think of a game where we deserved a win and didn't get it. Arsenal we failed to capitalise first 30 mins then sat back and let them attack. Draw was fair. Not even sure we deserved to beat West Ham given we threw a 2 goal lead away to a dire side with 10 men. Arsenal we probably did deserve to win and that was probably our best performance. Every other win we've gotten bar Everton you can't say we "deserved" to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Why did we deserve to win? You sit back for an hour against a good side you're going to concede at some point. I get MP wants the job but his reluctant to resign and admit he's lost the players will cost us our premier league place. There's nothing he can do now to win them round and sort it out. Why would they suddenly start listening to him? He's made it very clear he doesn't know what to do, who to play, how to set up and can't motivate people. Because we should, on the chances we created, have been 2/3 nil up before half time. There's no way MP is honorable enough to resign so we need to rely on the dithering Reed to do something (I won't hold my breath for that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Why did we deserve to win? You sit back for an hour against a good side you're going to concede at some point. I get MP wants the job but his reluctant to resign and admit he's lost the players will cost us our premier league place. There's nothing he can do now to win them round and sort it out. Why would they suddenly start listening to him? He's made it very clear he doesn't know what to do, who to play, how to set up and can't motivate people. Exactly right. The board have to act now! It's clear the Manager is bereft of ideas and tactical nous; the players are not putting in for him. The lack of desire, fight and energy is demoralising to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Pellegrino at full time: "Where did they get that no 10 from? You can't plan for these unknowns coming in and influencing the game in this way. We were unlucky..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Wheres my P45? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugalsaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 It’s a rout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 ''Thanks for the oppertunity to Southampton, but I'll have to admit that I'm a little bit out of my depth here. So it's best I leave and allow someone to come in with a bit more clout who can get the best out of what is a very unballanced/confused but ultimatley talented squad.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 He will make a huge thing about us scoring two goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 For the last twenty minutes we matched them, we hit the bar and created some good chances, we showed our good face for that time and need to make sure we do it for 90 minutes against manchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 For the last twenty minutes we matched them, we hit the bar and created some good chances, we showed our good face for that time and need to make sure we do it for 90 minutes against manchester. Yep, but too little too late. Pellegrino hasn’t learnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 For the last twenty minutes we matched them, we hit the bar and created some good chances, we showed our good face for that time and need to make sure we do it for 90 minutes against manchester. Ha ha, it actually wouldn't surprise me if it was word for word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 For the last twenty minutes we matched them, we hit the bar and created some good chances, we showed our good face for that time and need to make sure we do it for 90 minutes against manchester. This is what he will say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Connection Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Have you got your calendar yet ? Guess who is our February star ? Ye gods ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Unfortunately I think the improved display when we tried to attack probably brought him more time. No doubt it will be back to 10-1 formation against Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 There is enough quality for 7th. So if Europe falls that far. A manager organising the team and getting Boufal, Tadic, Redmond vaguely firing again would do really well. Top 6 are well ahead but any of the rest well managed could have a good season. Everton probably have the 7th best squad on paper, then it's us. Getting relegated with this squad is really unforgivable. I am stunned at just how deluded someone can be. The team isn’t good enough for Europe at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 "We showed good heart to come back with 2 goals" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Yep, but too little too late. Pellegrino hasn’t learnt. I don’t think he ever will learn. The sooner the board understands this, the better. Hopefully very, very soon i.e. tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 The only thing I want to hear from Pellegrino is, this job is just to big for me so I resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 We went on a school trip to a midweek match at WHL in the late sixties or early seventies , we were 5-1 down but came back to 5-3 and despite constant attacks that was the final score . Got introduced to cockles and whelks on the way back (plus grit) ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 In his defense, if he doesn’t mention the injuries, he’s a bigger (or perhaps deluded?) man than most managers. Going away to Spurs with a back four of Targett, Yoshida, Hoedt and Stephens really is a hiding to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 That's got to be him gone. Worst manager we've ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Trying to take the emotion out of this situation, the board and owner can have no complaints whatsoever if we get relegated should they fail to sack the manager today. Other changes may also be required down the line (Reed, players etc.), but for now manager needs to go. Second half showed the way we need to try and play to win, yet it takes our manager 20 games to try it (and may not even intentionally?). Sad day to be a Saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 The best result for Pellegrino today is he's not been sacked yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 26 December, 2017 Author Share Posted 26 December, 2017 For the last twenty minutes we matched them, we hit the bar and created some good chances, we showed our good face for that time and need to make sure we do it for 90 minutes against manchester. 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monosaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Utterly deluded if that's true. How dare you criticise a committed Saints player for saying that. A very unintelligent response in my view. It's that attitude that will get us out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 My god.....the guy is on a different planet. Did he miss that we conceded 2 goals early in the 2nd half to go 4-0 down? Did he miss that he sent out a team to try and not lose with no real intent of trying to win? He is beyond clueless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 9/10 “We showed character” - what a clueless tosser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 He’s just not cut out for this at all. Without a doubt the worst manager we’ve had since Poortvliet/Wotte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmonkey1979 Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 “We showed character” - what a clueless tosser.Was he talking about the game today (can't call it a match) or yesterday's team charades? I saw no character from anyone in a saints kit in that pitch today. I'm certain I'm not the only one Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon3737 Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 9/10 So, the second half (which we lost 3-2) was a great performance he thinks. Let’s try to lose every half 3-2 from now on! . Europa League here we come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 How can he honestly make that assessment after a 5-2 defeat. We were lucky it was only 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Just incredible .... this guy is so off the mark it really is now laughable..... Why hasn’t he been dismissed yet??? Our senior management are culpable here...How blind are they - for Gods sake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Was he talking about the game today (can't call it a match) or yesterday's team charades? I saw no character from anyone in a saints kit in that pitch today. I'm certain I'm not the only one Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Spurs played within themselves today... From the first goal going in there was absolutely no doubt about the result. I know he has to sell himself and the team but the goals flattered us and by then it was a training game for them. I struggle to see any positives in his tenure at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 He’s just not cut out for this at all. Without a doubt the worst manager we’ve had since Poortvliet/Wotte. Our training tops look like Sainsbury’s uniforms but I don’t think they’d want him to stack shelves. Shoppers would never find their items week by week in the store and the layout would a chaotic mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 "We worked hard and dominated much of the game/1st half/2nd half." "We were unlucky not to get at least a point." "We showed our quality throughout and deserved a result." ~ Adolf Hitler Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 For him to take our second half performance as a positive is just embarrassing - we conceded 2 goals in the first six minutes of it FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 He’s just not cut out for this at all. Without a doubt the worst manager we’ve had since Poortvliet/Wotte. I don't know why but I see him being a success as a Basketball referee! Certainly not a Football Manager. Palace replacing De Boer after 4 games may have been too rapid, but this annoying buffoon getting towards 20 games is alarming. Pellegr. is the first Saint's Manager who I feel anger towards; throw Reed in for anger and disdain as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Oh dear, that was embarrassing. Not sure replacing the manager is our only problem, but it is one fix that needs to take place. Need a manager that has gravitas. Struggling to think who we could get. Much as I love the idea of Fonseca ... can we try another manager that hasn't managed here? O'Neill/Keane combo? Or Strachan back? Current players not playing for the manager? Need a disciplinarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 27 December, 2017 Share Posted 27 December, 2017 It's taken me a while to recognise it (I can be slow like that[emoji6]) but a common thread to his approach to every game is to start cautiously and wait for something to happen. Only then does he react. There's never a proactive attitude, for example, to come out all guns blazing and take the game to the opposition. I suppose that occasionally we set up to park the bus from the word go, and that's tactics of a sort, but hardly positive. And once something happens, how does he react? If we actually score first, his only plan seems to be to hold on to the lead. If the opposition score, we sometimes see a reaction from the players, but tactical changes and subs are always far too slow in coming, if at all. In fact, it usually looks like he's planned the subs before the game. We've been outmanoeuvred by opposition subs more than once. So we keep getting comments about responding well, or responding too slowly. Never any proactive thought, which makes me wonder if he can actually form a game plan for himself. At the moment, we just go out and wait to see what happens. Then react. Or not. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 27 December, 2017 Share Posted 27 December, 2017 It's taken me a while to recognise it (I can be slow like that[emoji6]) but a common thread to his approach to every game is to start cautiously and wait for something to happen. Only then does he react. There's never a proactive attitude, for example, to come out all guns blazing and take the game to the opposition. I suppose that occasionally we set up to park the bus from the word go, and that's tactics of a sort, but hardly positive. And once something happens, how does he react? If we actually score first, his only plan seems to be to hold on to the lead. If the opposition score, we sometimes see a reaction from the players, but tactical changes and subs are always far too slow in coming, if at all. In fact, it usually looks like he's planned the subs before the game. We've been outmanoeuvred by opposition subs more than once. So we keep getting comments about responding well, or responding too slowly. Never any proactive thought, which makes me wonder if he can actually form a game plan for himself. At the moment, we just go out and wait to see what happens. Then react. Or not. Shorter version: he's a crap manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 27 December, 2017 Share Posted 27 December, 2017 Shorter version: he's a crap manager.Agreed. I just wanted to try to analyze the many ways in which he's crap. [emoji6] Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2017 Share Posted 27 December, 2017 Shorter version: he's a crap manager. Or just not capable enough of getting much out of a mediocre bunch of players in a league where exceptional players abound. Spanish or Portuguese league manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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