bangkoksaint Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 It's a month since the initial poll. Any chance it could be run again? Be interesting to see how people's opinions have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 I honestly think if we fail to beat Huddersfield he will be gone! That said I still want him gone Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Hardly anybody voted in. I doubt that's changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 I honestly think if we fail to beat Huddersfield he will be gone! That said I still want him gone Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk How may more matches do we need to have "where if he fails to beat...." before Les or Gao act ? I thought the Leicester match was his last chance to win a stay of execution really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Shouldve gone weeks ago, we will beat Huddersfield and he will get another stay of execution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Shouldve gone weeks ago, we will beat Huddersfield and he will get another stay of execution No doubt Les will spend the first three weeks of the transfer window trying to secure a manager, leaving the last few days for the poor sod who comes in a few days to assemble "his" squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 After the last poll, performances had improved. Lose against Huddersfield (a draw wouldn’t be great either) and he simply has to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 He has to go as soon as the club sort his replacement out. Hopefully, they're doing work behind the scenes now. The longer we keep MP, the longer we'll be in a relegation scrap. I would welcome Koeman back. Bielsa is available now after failing in France. Bilic is refreshed after being fried at West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Bilic? Why?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Bilic? Why?! Just putting out who is available. There aren't many managers out there who haven't been sacked. Moyes and Hodgson are doing well at the moment. Both have monumental failures on their CVs. Bilic's record is pretty good. Admittedly, he wouldn't be right at the top of my list, but he is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 After the last poll, performances had improved. Lose against Huddersfield (a draw wouldn’t be great either) and he simply has to go Debatable. That Leicester game undid all the good imo. We need to perform against the lower clubs not just put up plucky displays v the top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Debatable. That Leicester game undid all the good imo. We need to perform against the lower clubs not just put up plucky displays v the top 6. Yep, no good being plucky and deemed to be unlucky against the Man City's of this world if you cant follow it up with a win against a Stoke or Swansea etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 If we beat Huddersfield, he should stay ! Lose and he should be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 If we beat Huddersfield, he should stay ! Lose and he should be replaced. Silly logic either way. You can't base his future on one game. Out of interest, if we win, how long would you give him then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Silly logic either way. You can't base his future on one game. Out of interest, if we win, how long would you give him then? Agreed. It feels like death of a thousand cuts, slow and painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Bilic is refreshed after being fried at West Ham. And you know this how? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 And you know this how? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Only got his word for it. Follow the link on the BBC football gossip page today, I think the article is in the Mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 If we sack him now all we will get is Black, which with his track record (Relegation and Relegation) it will be worse. What the "Management Team" need is somebody with a tactical understanding of the game. When Ronald was here it was accepted that it was him brother Edwin that provided that. MP1 has his assistant (Jesus Perez) to give technical advise. Even nice Nigel used Andy Crosby for advise. The problem for me is that MP2 has nobody in the coaching team to give advice, there seems to be a lot of "it my job to put out the cones" type of coaches. (I wonder what they are looking at on their laptops and tablets during games, is it porn movies ? or are they logon to Saintsweb to see if the fans have any technical advice for the manager?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sad saints fan Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 How long do you give him? Two full seasons minimum. Same as Fergie had at Man UTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Only got his word for it. Follow the link on the BBC football gossip page today, I think the article is in the Mail. So a bloke who has been absolutely woeful for 12 months and is now being shown up by Davie Moyes, Moyes FFS, says he’s refreshed in The Daily Mail and on that basis you want to appoint him? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 If we sack him now all we will get is Black, which with his track record (Relegation and Relegation) it will be worse. What the "Management Team" need is somebody with a tactical understanding of the game. When Ronald was here it was accepted that it was him brother Edwin that provided that. MP1 has his assistant (Jesus Perez) to give technical advise. Even nice Nigel used Andy Crosby for advise. The problem for me is that MP2 has nobody in the coaching team to give advice, there seems to be a lot of "it my job to put out the cones" type of coaches. (I wonder what they are looking at on their laptops and tablets during games, is it porn movies ? or are they logon to Saintsweb to see if the fans have any technical advice for the manager?) Pellegrino has two coaches hand picked by him to support him. Adkins brought in Crosby, Pards brought in Wally Downes, Poch has Perez, Koeman brought in his brother, Puel brought in Planque, Strachan brought in Pendry. Basically at Saints the opportunity is there to bring in your own people to support, within a reasonable framework. So if he doesn't have someone he trusts to give him the advise he needs then I'd say that was entirely his fault and yet another fu ck up in a management tenure strewn with fu ck ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 If we sack him now all we will get is Black, which with his track record (Relegation and Relegation) it will be worse. What the "Management Team" need is somebody with a tactical understanding of the game. When Ronald was here it was accepted that it was him brother Edwin that provided that. MP1 has his assistant (Jesus Perez) to give technical advise. Even nice Nigel used Andy Crosby for advise. The problem for me is that MP2 has nobody in the coaching team to give advice, there seems to be a lot of "it my job to put out the cones" type of coaches. (I wonder what they are looking at on their laptops and tablets during games, is it porn movies ? or are they logon to Saintsweb to see if the fans have any technical advice for the manager?) In that case, Glen Hoddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Silly logic either way. You can't base his future on one game. Out of interest, if we win, how long would you give him then? If we beat Huddersfield we should give him another 3 or 4 games to see how things develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Rather have a poll on Les out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 In that case, Glen Hoddle Are you ****ging him? Would love to get him in and to prove to you he will fail badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 I see Celtic lost today, perhaps Brendon might be interested. Must admit I couldn't stand him when he was at Liverpool but has to be an upgrade on what we have surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 So a bloke who has been absolutely woeful for 12 months and is now being shown up by Davie Moyes, Moyes FFS, says he’s refreshed in The Daily Mail and on that basis you want to appoint him? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Read my post Thrush. I was listing who was available, not who I wanted. F*cking irritating c*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 I do not blame MoPo Les and the board over rate players like Redmond and Forster, we can't really on them often so we play it safe alot Puel was smart to notice that but me and others blamed him for the poor results. However MoPos biggest downfall is not starting with Austin and Gabba, we have to attack HTFC and I really hope he starts both on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Hardly anybody voted in. I doubt that's changed. Hardly anybody I know IRL comes on here when we lose because of the pointless negativity, so the poll is going to be hugely skewed anyway. I didn't even know there was an original poll until about two days ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 How long do you give him? Two full seasons minimum. Same as Fergie had at Man UTD Football's changed quite a bit since 1986, and we set our recent impatience benchmark last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 I see Celtic lost today, perhaps Brendon might be interested. Must admit I couldn't stand him when he was at Liverpool but has to be an upgrade on what we have surely. Agree on that. Not sure whether he would leave mid-season, especially with them in the Europa, but I would be happy with Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Agree on that. Not sure whether he would leave mid-season, especially with them in the Europa, but I would be happy with Rodgers. Our fans are deluded. Leaving Celtic because they lost a game to come to us. Wow Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Our fans are deluded. Leaving Celtic because they lost a game to come to us. Wow Sent from my iPad using TapatalkHe won't leave mid-season but it's hardly deluded to expect a Celtic manager to come here. In recent history we'd be the highest ranked club an ex-Celtic manager has moved to in years. Highest ranked by a mile. 2nd tier Middlesbrough (twice), Bolton and some Finland nobodies in the last decade or so. But yeah. So deluded. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 There is no more point in sacking Pellegrino than there was in sacking Puel if Old Les is still here to choose the next manager, control all transfers in and out and keep his favourites, Eric Black and Dave Watson in control of first team coaching, never mind the harm he is doing to the academy. Until Reed, Black & Watson are gone no new manager is going to be able to improve things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 17 December, 2017 Share Posted 17 December, 2017 Our fans are deluded. Leaving Celtic because they lost a game to come to us. Wow Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Ah yeah, would never be able to attract Celtic's best would we... not like when we signed Wanyama and Forster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 18 December, 2017 Share Posted 18 December, 2017 He won't leave mid-season but it's hardly deluded to expect a Celtic manager to come here. In recent history we'd be the highest ranked club an ex-Celtic manager has moved to in years. Highest ranked by a mile. 2nd tier Middlesbrough (twice), Bolton and some Finland nobodies in the last decade or so. But yeah. So deluded. Wow. He's achieved all he can ever achieve there. We can offer more money and a return to the Premier League. He would only come at the end of the season though. He has a reputation for attacking football and that's what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 18 December, 2017 Share Posted 18 December, 2017 To give an answer I would need to know who is available and interested in the job. Who should we hire is a more important question than whether or not we should sack Pellegrino since there is not point in getting rid of him only to bring in someone who is no better or worse. It's like it was with Adkins, the decision to sack him may well have been taken when we had only 4 points from our first 10 games but we only actually fired him a few months later when someone we wanted was finally available, even though results had picked up by that point. If someone we want and believe to be superior to Pellegrino is available then we should get him, but until then we should hold off from pressing the panic button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 18 December, 2017 Share Posted 18 December, 2017 My opinion never changed . Out and take Reed and the coaching staff too . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 18 December, 2017 Share Posted 18 December, 2017 I do not blame MoPo Les and the board over rate players like Redmond and Forster, we can't really on them often so we play it safe alot Puel was smart to notice that but me and others blamed him for the poor results. However MoPos biggest downfall is not starting with Austin and Gabba, we have to attack HTFC and I really hope he starts both on Saturday.Les Reed headhunted Redmond . How can he not be responsible? Redmond is still the exact same player he was at Norwhich . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 18 December, 2017 Share Posted 18 December, 2017 Les Reed headhunted Redmond . How can he not be responsible? Redmond is still the exact same player he was at Norwhich . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Redmond is perplexing. I thought that he had good moments and improved under Puel, but he has not flourished under Pellegrino. Too often he has a leaden first touch, which costs the team attacking possession and creates breaks for the opposing team. That was a very frustrating feature in the Chelsea game. For someone with pace, he rarely seems to show it convincingly on the pitch. He’s been very disappointing this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 18 December, 2017 Share Posted 18 December, 2017 There is no more point in sacking Pellegrino than there was in sacking Puel if Old Les is still here to choose the next manager, control all transfers in and out and keep his favourites, Eric Black and Dave Watson in control of first team coaching, never mind the harm he is doing to the academy. Until Reed, Black & Watson are gone no new manager is going to be able to improve things. Well said young man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 18 December, 2017 Share Posted 18 December, 2017 Too many flipping MP out new manager threads. It has come to something that we now all want Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 18 December, 2017 Share Posted 18 December, 2017 Ah yeah, would never be able to attract Celtic's best would we... not like when we signed Wanyama and Forster. You’re using Forster in that argument. Amusing Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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