Noodles34 Posted 29 November, 2017 Posted 29 November, 2017 Massive game really, will be the game whereby we really will see what we really are. Bournemouth are there for the taking if we actually take it yo them. Like to see the same team as tonight with Austin up front and Boufal just behind him. The width can come from the FB's so Stevee D just in front of Lemina and Romeu
Pamplemousse Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 They're getting a bit restless down there. Seems like Howe has his favourites and is refusing to drop players who are badly out of form. For us though, Pellegrino has a few selection dilemmas too, which is a plus. Forster Cedric Hoedt VVD Bertrand Romeu Lemina Davis Hojbjerg JWP Boufal Austin Tadic Defence and Attack picks itself but that midfield is a tough one, two players have to be dropped but none of them deserve it really. JWP is the most likely I'd imagine, and possibly Hojbjerg too.
nta786 Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 They're getting a bit restless down there. Seems like Howe has his favourites and is refusing to drop players who are badly out of form. For us though, Pellegrino has a few selection dilemmas too, which is a plus. Forster Cedric Hoedt VVD Bertrand Romeu Lemina Davis Hojbjerg JWP Boufal Austin Tadic Defence and Attack picks itself but that midfield is a tough one, two players have to be dropped but none of them deserve it really. JWP is the most likely I'd imagine, and possibly Hojbjerg too. A 453 formation... nice
GarrettIvo Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 A 453 formation... nice If we can't win with that set-up we are in trouble.
OttawaSaint Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 I'd prefer a 5-5-3 personally. **** it, go with the 5-5-5 Cedric Hoedt VVD Yoshida Bertrand JWP Davis Lemina Romeu PEH Tadic Boufal Gabbi Austin Redmond
whelk Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 (edited) A good time to also blood Bednarek and McCartthy Forster McCarthy Cedric Hoedt VVD Bednarek Yoshida Bertrand JWP Davis Lemina Romeu PEH Sims Tadic Boufal Gabbi Austin Redmond Long Edited 30 November, 2017 by whelk
whelk Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Massive game really, will be the game whereby we really will see what we really are. Bournemouth are there for the taking if we actually take it yo them. Like to see the same team as tonight with Austin up front and Boufal just behind him. The width can come from the FB's so Stevee D just in front of Lemina and Romeu You going to have a half and half ‘friendly derby’ rosette?
rooney Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 I have a feeling Cedric will not play after last night's injury.
EBS1980 Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 I have a feeling Cedric will not play after last night's injury. Then it’s either Pied or 3 at the back with JWP on the right of midfield
LGTL Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Assuming Cedric will be injured (big loss) Forster VVD Hoedt Yoshida JWP Bertrand Romeu Lemina Hodjberg Boufal Austin
Noodles34 Posted 30 November, 2017 Author Posted 30 November, 2017 You going to have a half and half ‘friendly derby’ rosette? Probably just stick with the half and half scarf.
doddisalegend Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Yeah I'm not sure we will see Cedric after last night. Pied is a massive step down. Unless we shift McQueen or Bertrand to play at right back (not ideal granted) I guess it will be Pied. Anyone know if we have any decent RBs in the youth set up who could step up?
Sheaf Saint Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Assuming Cedric will be injured (big loss) Forster VVD Hoedt Yoshida JWP Bertrand Romeu Lemina Hodjberg Boufal Austin Please not Yoshida at RB. He was an absolute disaster when Koeman played him there. I've not seen enough of Pied to make a sound judgement but he surely has to be a better option.
mrfahaji Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Please not Yoshida at RB. He was an absolute disaster when Koeman played him there. I've not seen enough of Pied to make a sound judgement but he surely has to be a better option. I think LGTL has him in a back 3 with JWP as RWB. Either that or he's got Forster playing left back.
trousers Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Forster Cedric/Pied - VvD - Hoedt - Bertrand Romeu - Lemina - Hojbjerg Boufal - Tadic Austin Subs: McCarthy, Yoshida, Davis, JWP, Redmond, Long, Gabbiadini
nta786 Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Forster Cedric/Pied - VvD - Hoedt - Bertrand Romeu - Lemina - Hojbjerg Boufal - Tadic Austin Subs: McCarthy, Yoshida, Davis, JWP, Redmond, Long, Gabbiadini this is the Christmas tree formation! fitting for our first game in December! I vote this one!
Sheaf Saint Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 I think LGTL has him in a back 3 with JWP as RWB. Either that or he's got Forster playing left back. Yes, I see that now. Although I'm not convinced that's the right setup in a game that we should realistically expect to be winning. And I'm not convinced about JWP's suitability for the RWB role. He's not really quick enough to get up and down the line that much, and would leave Yoshida quite exposed as the RCB.
Pancake Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Yeah I'm not sure we will see Cedric after last night. Pied is a massive step down. Unless we shift McQueen or Bertrand to play at right back (not ideal granted) I guess it will be Pied. Anyone know if we have any decent RBs in the youth set up who could step up? Yan Valery. Big step for the lad though, but s good player.
igsey Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Cedric's injury was to his arm right? Maybe he'll do a Vardy and play with a wrist cast (and bang in goals in 11 consecutive games?). Otherwise it would be good to see Yann Valery, he's been touted as The Next Big Thing for a while now.
SKD Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Assuming Cedric will be injured (big loss) Forster VVD Hoedt Yoshida JWP Bertrand Romeu Lemina Hodjberg Boufal Austin JWP as WB isn’t a bad shout. For me, that’s probably what I would go for, but I suspect we’ll go back to a back 4 and SD will come in (probably at the expense of PEH).
disconnect Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Cedric's injury was to his arm right? Maybe he'll do a Vardy and play with a wrist cast (and bang in goals in 11 consecutive games?). Otherwise it would be good to see Yann Valery, he's been touted as The Next Big Thing for a while now. I'm a bit late to the party, but Valery has looked good in the games i've seen at u23 level. I imagine it'll be Pied though, but if he gets released / moved on next summer (not sure when contract is up), we probably wont sign a replacement and plan to use Valery.
benjii Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 I think we should go back to a 4231. If Cedric isn't fit then we just need to make a call between Pied, a young right back or playing one of our decent left backs at right back. JWP might be OK as wing back but he's too slow really to be playing full back nowadays. Also, one decent performance against a useless team doesn't suddenly lift him above his usual underwhelming standard.
OttawaSaint Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Yeah I'm not sure we will see Cedric after last night. Pied is a massive step down. Unless we shift McQueen or Bertrand to play at right back (not ideal granted) I guess it will be Pied. Anyone know if we have any decent RBs in the youth set up who could step up? I thought that’d be what we’d have done last night Bertie to RWB and McQ on the left, but we switched to a back 4.
Pamplemousse Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 JWP as WB isn’t a bad shout. For me, that’s probably what I would go for, but I suspect we’ll go back to a back 4 and SD will come in (probably at the expense of PEH). JWP is definitely the best option at that area if Cedric isn't fit
SKD Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 --------FF------- --MY--VvD--WH-- JWP--ML--OR--RB --DT--------SB-- --------CA-------
tajjuk Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Same team that beat Everton for me, maybe with Lemina instead of Davis. We need to play the same high temp football, Bournemouth will not make it as easy as Everton and have more of a threat but are hardly great defensively.
lickierambert Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 For me, this fixture will forever be associated with Oscar Gobern's kung fu tackle in 2011. Long may it live
Bad Wolf Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 For me, this fixture will forever be associated with Oscar Gobern's kung fu tackle in 2011. Long may it live Same. Tackles you see and think "20 years ago he'd have got a new contract for that. This was not one of those. He was lucky not to be arrested for that!!
Sheaf Saint Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Same. Tackles you see and think "20 years ago he'd have got a new contract for that. This was not one of those. He was lucky not to be arrested for that!! I was showing this to a work colleague on YouTube the other day. We concluded that poor Oscar couldn't make up his mind to go for the ball with his left foot, his right foot or his head, and he ended up trying to play it with all three simultaneously.
Saint Garrett Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 Forster Cedric VVD Hoedt Bertrand Hojbjerg Lemina JWP Boufal Tadic Austin
Useful Idiot Posted 30 November, 2017 Posted 30 November, 2017 I'd go for: --------------Forster-------------- Cedric*---Yoshida---VVD---Bertrand --------------Romeu--------------- ------Højbjerg-------Lemina-------- ----Boufal-----------------Tadić---- --------------Austin--------------- *or Pied if Cedric's not fit. He'll be a big loss if he can't play. Bench: McCarthy, Stephens, Hoedt, Davis, JWP, Redmond, Gabbi Romeu seems at his best as an anchor man, Højbjerg and Lemina can shuttle forward and back. Those three should be able to dominate midfield with their strength and technical ability. Tadić and Boufal can drift in from wide to link play or try to create overloads out wide so the fullbacks can swing in crosses. Try to get at least one of Højbjerg and Lemina into the box to support Austin. If it's not working, maybe bring on JWP for one of the midfielders and switch to him on the right in a 4-2-3-1 with Tadić going central. Swap Austin for Gabbi after 60-70mins.
Dark Munster Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 A good time to also blood Bednarek and McCartthy Forster McCarthy Cedric Hoedt VVD Bednarek Yoshida Bertrand JWP Davis Lemina Romeu PEH Sims Tadic Boufal Gabbi Austin Redmond Long You'd pick Redmond? Seriously??
Baird of the land Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 Forster(I'd still prefer Mccarthy because i don't Forster's desire or coaching team's desire to palm shots away rather than catch) but can't see a change happening Cedric(if injured Stephens) Van Dijk Hoedt Bertand Hojberg Lemina Davis Boufal Austin Tadic
Batman Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 MP presser.. Cedric wont be available on sunday, shane long has a calf strain we will review Shanes injury tomorrow the city game was important as we competed well we showed we can be really competitive against the best side in the league we have to be better with the chances we get every game is competitive just like sunday, it will be tough Charlie has the possibility to be in the team. it will be a different game to city and nearly all players are available and ready I did not see what happened with pep and nathan at the time I do not know for sure what happened, not seen the video have not spoken to nathan about it when you are in games, you have to manage your emotions no matter what the result it, emotions are high. I did not see any lack of respect. I left the touchline early so missed it Bournemouth are a growing side and always looking to get better it will be a tough game, never been to this ground and looking forward to it everyone wants to win, we have worked on how we attack and defend against this side
simo Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 Howe said he regards it as a derby but says they still have to grow as a club to become a real rival.
Batman Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 Howe said he regards it as a derby but says they still have to grow as a club to become a real rival. seems a fair point
simo Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 MP presser.. Cedric wont be available on sunday, shane long has a calf strain we will review Shanes injury tomorrow the city game was important as we competed well we showed we can be really competitive against the best side in the league we have to be better with the chances we get every game is competitive just like sunday, it will be tough Charlie has the possibility to be in the team. it will be a different game to city and nearly all players are available and ready I did not see what happened with pep and nathan at the time I do not know for sure what happened, not seen the video have not spoken to nathan about it when you are in games, you have to manage your emotions no matter what the result it, emotions are high. I did not see any lack of respect. I left the touchline early so missed it Bournemouth are a growing side and always looking to get better it will be a tough game, never been to this ground and looking forward to it everyone wants to win, we have worked on how we attack and defend against this side He didn't see what happened with Pep , hasn't watched it back and hasn't spoken to Redmond about it ? That's great management there !
Sheaf Saint Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 He didn't see what happened with Pep , hasn't watched it back and hasn't spoken to Redmond about it ? That's great management there ! Straight out of the Arsene Wenger school of fence-sitting that is.
ericb Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 seems a fair point It's just pandering to their fanbase who are desperate for it to become a derby game. It isn't and will never be our derby, and i think most Bournemouth fans know that which annoys them further. Howe feels he has to talk it up because it's what they expect, i'd prefer it if our club made no reference to it to be honest.
Batman Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 It's just pandering to their fanbase who are desperate for it to become a derby game. It isn't and will never be our derby, and i think most Bournemouth fans know that which annoys them further. Howe feels he has to talk it up because it's what they expect, i'd prefer it if our club made no reference to it to be honest. but it is a fairly local derby.
striker Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 I want 2 up top FF Cedric VVD Yoshida Bertrand Lemina Tadic Davis Boufal Austin Gabbi
Useful Idiot Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 I want 2 up top FF Cedric VVD Yoshida Bertrand Lemina Tadic Davis Boufal Austin Gabbi Even against Bournemouth that midfield would get torn apart. Too many creative players and not enough ball winners. Also, Cedric is confirmed out and Long is doubtful. I doubt MP will want to play 2 up top if there's no striker cover on the bench (except maybe Redmond if you can count him as one). Think the only way we'd go 2 up top is in a 4-4-2 diamond with Romeu, Lemina, Davis/Hoj and Tadic/Boufal as the no. 10, or a 3-5-2 with Lemina and Romeu being two of the CMs.
waylander Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 I want 2 up top FF Cedric VVD Yoshida Bertrand Lemina Tadic Davis Boufal Austin Gabbi No Cedric, he has a hamstring problem
Matthew Le God Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 I want 2 up top FF Cedric VVD Yoshida Bertrand Lemina Tadic Davis Boufal Austin Gabbi 1) I remain puzzled with some fans obsession with 2 upfront. Playing 4-2-3-1 can be very attacking, it was how we beat Everton last week. 2) Tadic and Davis in central midfield is a very strange combination 3) Using Lemina on the right is an odd choice 4) Hoedt & van Dijk is the best partnership, if it were to be Yoshida & van Dijk then van Dijk would be on the left
Matthew Le God Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 It's just pandering to their fanbase who are desperate for it to become a derby game. It isn't and will never be our derby, and i think most Bournemouth fans know that which annoys them further. Howe feels he has to talk it up because it's what they expect, i'd prefer it if our club made no reference to it to be honest. It is a derby, there is no point denying it. There are degrees of derby and rivalry, of course it isn't remotely at the level of a Saints vs Pompey game. But there is still more spice to a Saints vs Bournemouth game than there is when we play Swansea or Burnley etc etc. It is also more from the Bournemouth side than Southampton, but again that doesn't make it not a derby it just makes it a minor derby/rivalry.
hasper57saint Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 They're getting a bit restless down there. Seems like Howe has his favourites and is refusing to drop players who are badly out of form. For us though, Pellegrino has a few selection dilemmas too, which is a plus. Forster Cedric Hoedt VVD Bertrand Romeu Lemina Davis Hojbjerg JWP Boufal Austin Tadic Defence and Attack picks itself but that midfield is a tough one, two players have to be dropped but none of them deserve it really. JWP is the most likely I'd imagine, and possibly Hojbjerg too. See you have dropped Redmond perhaps it is because he had his head turned by Pep on Sunday.Or is it because he hasn't put a decent shift in for weeks?No prizes for the answer.
krissyboy31 Posted 1 December, 2017 Posted 1 December, 2017 Yan Valery. Big step for the lad though, but s good player. Can't wait for an airing of the Amy Winehouse song!
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