Golac's Iron Gonads Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 A keeper much maligned here. Unfairly I thought and I often said I fancied him to become a good keeper. But many said he didn't save shots, positioning was all wrong and he used the wrong hand to save with. Well he's got his chance against Palace today and I'll be watching keenly to see how he's progressed. Relevant given our current goalkeeping incumbent.
John Boy Saint Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Last league game he played for us must have been away at Palace a couple of years back (I stand to be corrected), he had a pretty sound game then was dropped, yes we lost 1-0 to a scrappy goal, but it could have been a few more were it not for Gazza. Good luck to him.
Guan 2.0 Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 If he makes a consistent run of good performances, then the case for change amongst our coaching staff will be strengthened.
Lighthouse Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 He's never looked like a Premier League 'keeper and a home game for Spurs against Palace is unlikely to change the general opinion of him.
stevy777_x Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Just stopped Spurs from going behind. Great save too. Forster would never have gone down to save that.
Pilchards Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 My son aged 18 (6 ft exactly) stood in the middle of the goal as I stood on the 15 yard line and threw the ball in each corner 10 times like I was taking a throw in. He got to everyone of them and he does not even play for a team. I have no idea how Forster is mugging us for 50k every week. its past a ****ing joke now.
davefoggy Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Gazza is a fine keeper and i cant believe we let him go. I wish him all the best
Badger Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Gazza is a fine keeper and i cant believe we let him go. I wish him all the best Time will tell, but as the last couple of season's have gone on I've come to the conclusion he is unlikely to be any less reliable than FF.
obelisk Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Another good save from Gazza that FF would have had trouble with.
a1ex2001 Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Will be surprised if he ever becomes a consistently good prem keeper he was a liability for us you knew we would need to score 2-3 as soon as he was in the team. Good luck to him.
Gorgiesaint Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Gazzaniga in a nutshell. Played well so far, made a couple of good saves and kicked very well. Then hesitates coming out for a ball and lets Zaha round him, who should have scored. There is always a mistake there waiting to happen, usually it was more than one. Let's not re-write his history with Saints, He wasn't good enough with us and showed little signs of improvement.
Colinjb Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Well taken goal by Son. Just tuned in to see Gazzaniga keeping Spurs in it. Surreal.
stevy777_x Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Question : has Forster always had trouble to get down to shots? Pre injury i can t really remember us complaining about this. Has maybe the injury to his knee scuppered that ability?
Disco Stu Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Gazzaniga is a decent back up goalkeeper but lets settle down here. He's unlikely to ever be anyones first choice in this league.
VectisSaint Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Gazzaniga in a nutshell. Played well so far, made a couple of good saves and kicked very well. Then hesitates coming out for a ball and lets Zaha round him, who should have scored. There is always a mistake there waiting to happen, usually it was more than one. Let's not re-write his history with Saints, He wasn't good enough with us and showed little signs of improvement. But a season and a half away from our esteemed goal keeping coach and he at least makes decent saves that our incumbent would not have got near.
Bewildered Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Gazzaniga is a decent back up goalkeeper but lets settle down here. He's unlikely to ever be anyones first choice in this league. On the last couple of season's form, decent back up keeper is more complimentary than anything that could be said about FF.
Disco Stu Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 True, but I wouldn't start feeling like we've let some gem slide through our fingers.
Gorgiesaint Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 But a season and a half away from our esteemed goal keeping coach and he at least makes decent saves that our incumbent would not have got near. I know its the trendy thing to hammer FF and our goalkeeping coach, but have you seen the catalogue of mistakes that Gazzaniga made whilst on loan at Rayo Vallecano last season? You can't blame Dave Watson for those. Question : has Forster always had trouble to get down to shots? Pre injury i can t really remember us complaining about this. Has maybe the injury to his knee scuppered that ability? I've said this before on here, I think that injury to FF was a bad one not only in physical terms but also psychological (sp?) terms as well, I believe that its had a massive effect on his confidence. If he isn't, then he should be working with a sports psychologist.
qwertyell Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 If nothing else, he's certainly prettier than Forster. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk
sotonist Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 I know its the trendy thing to hammer FF and our goalkeeping coach, but have you seen the catalogue of mistakes that Gazzaniga made whilst on loan at Rayo Vallecano last season? You can't blame Dave Watson for those. If Watson hadn't been in charge of his development perhaps. Davis showed no improvement under Watson, Gazza showed no improvement, Forster has regressed, and McCarthy is getting no better from what I've heard. Boruc didn't seem to be affected, but then he seems very much his own man.
Batman Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 If nothing else, he's certainly prettier than Forster. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk just proves the coaching at saints is very bad at the moment
sotonist Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 just proves the coaching at saints is very bad at the moment I don't think there's any amount of coaching that could make forster pretty
Suhari Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 I don't think there's any amount of coaching that could make forster pretty
Gemmel Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 He's never looked like a Premier League 'keeper and a home game for Spurs against Palace is unlikely to change the general opinion of him. Whoops
Lighthouse Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Whoops Whoops what? Like I said, they were at home to Palace. People said similar things about Paul Smith when he deputised for Niemi. Let's see how he plays at the Emirates in 2 weeks, then make a judgement over the rest of the season, if indeed he keeps his place.
Gemmel Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Whoops what? Like I said, they were at home to Palace. People said similar things about Paul Smith when he deputised for Niemi. Let's see how he plays at the Emirates in 2 weeks, then make a judgement over the rest of the season, if indeed he keeps his place. You said he never looked like a premiership goalkeeper. ...... Well the game I just watched, he looked every bit a premiership goalkeeper and indeed picked up "Man of the Match" in a premiership game. From a goalkeeping perspective it doesn't matter whether it's Crystal Palace or Barcelona, you can only save or try and save, what is served up against you, which he did with style. He won't keep his place, but he put in a great shift and as per other posts on here, the point surely relates to the coaching staff, if others could see something they didn't. Of course one swallow does not make a summer, but a goalkeeper we let go on a free (I think) has just made a string of saves that I don't think our current number one, would have got to all of them.
Saint_clark Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Gazzaniga didnt go on a free, we got our money back for him.
VectisSaint Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 I know its the trendy thing to hammer FF and our goalkeeping coach, but have you seen the catalogue of mistakes that Gazzaniga made whilst on loan at Rayo Vallecano last season? You can't blame Dave Watson for those. Yes, seen most of them, thanks, hardly a catalogue. Mostly at the start of last season (though not all), so you could justifiably (though not sure I would) link them to a hangover from Watson's coaching. He also got many plaudits for the many good performances that he put in, especially as the season progressed. 12 clean sheets, 35 goals conceded in the season (approx 1 per game). His cockups were often like the one today against Spurs, rather than not making saves. By the way, its not "trendy" to knock FF and DW. The reason many people do it is because they see for themselves how useless the big man is based on available evidence. The way FF "performs" is so similar to the way other (our and England) keepers perform who are coached by Watson, including how Gazzaniga performed in the past under his tutelage.
Lighthouse Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 You said he never looked like a premiership goalkeeper. ...... Well the game I just watched, he looked every bit a premiership goalkeeper and indeed picked up "Man of the Match" in a premiership game. From a goalkeeping perspective it doesn't matter whether it's Crystal Palace or Barcelona, you can only save or try and save, what is served up against you, which he did with style. He won't keep his place, but he put in a great shift and as per other posts on here, the point surely relates to the coaching staff, if others could see something they didn't. Of course one swallow does not make a summer, but a goalkeeper we let go on a free (I think) has just made a string of saves that I don't think our current number one, would have got to all of them. So he had a good game at home to the worst team in the League. My point is he was poor throughout his stay here and one game against a poor team isn't enough to change the overall opinion of him. Saves are bread and butter (unless you're Forster). PG struggled when it came to commanding his defence and collecting crosses and Palace didn't exactly have Beckham swinging them in at Drogba for 90 minutes.
twopintsnilnil Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 My son aged 18 (6 ft exactly) stood in the middle of the goal as I stood on the 15 yard line and threw the ball in each corner 10 times like I was taking a throw in. He got to everyone of them and he does not even play for a team. I have no idea how Forster is mugging us for 50k every week. its past a ****ing joke now. On the what line?
nta786 Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 Funnily enough, Forster's only good game this season too also came against Palace (away where we won 1-0). He made some decent saves that day and Palace could have come away with more there.
StDunko Posted 5 November, 2017 Posted 5 November, 2017 On the what line? Yeah I was thinking that too.
the saint in winchester Posted 6 November, 2017 Posted 6 November, 2017 To think we "let" Gazza go and kept Forster on is unnerving. Goalkeeper is the first position that needs to be reviewed in January. The GK coach needs to be released and a better GK brought in.
shurlock Posted 6 November, 2017 Posted 6 November, 2017 To think we "let" Gazza go and kept Forster on is unnerving. Goalkeeper is the first position that needs to be reviewed in January. The GK coach needs to be released and a better GK brought in. Most thought we played a blinder, getting a fee for Gazzaniga.
RobM Posted 6 November, 2017 Posted 6 November, 2017 One good game doesn't turn a player we all judged fairly and accurately, into a world-beater. If he stakes his claim as No.1 at Spurs and plays like this regularly, we can then get upset about letting him go. He had the odd really good game for us too, remember.
doddisalegend Posted 6 November, 2017 Posted 6 November, 2017 One good game doesn't turn a player we all judged fairly and accurately, into a world-beater. If he stakes his claim as No.1 at Spurs and plays like this regularly, we can then get upset about letting him go. He had the odd really good game for us too, remember. Pretty much Forster has the odd good game don't think to many would say that makes him a good keeper though.
Pilchards Posted 6 November, 2017 Posted 6 November, 2017 (edited) On the what line? The very spot Burnley scored from, It was my typo error. Its shocking still how he either loses his feet or his reactions have gone. Edited 6 November, 2017 by Pilchards
Bad Wolf Posted 6 November, 2017 Posted 6 November, 2017 Gazza did have good games for us too. The ability has always been there.
S-Clarke Posted 6 November, 2017 Posted 6 November, 2017 He made some good saves, but also had the same issues as he did with us - coming for balls he shouldn't, getting caught out when playing sweeper keeper etc. He's got the ability, but I don't think he's ever been mentally strong enough.
derry Posted 7 November, 2017 Posted 7 November, 2017 Whatever we think of him, and I actually liked him, Jamie Redknapp selected him as his goalkeeper of the week. I think that one of the best managers around knew him and wanted him and then played him, says it all for me.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 7 November, 2017 Posted 7 November, 2017 Whatever we think of him, and I actually liked him, Jamie Redknapp selected him as his goalkeeper of the week. I think that one of the best managers around knew him and wanted him and then played him, says it all for me. Played him because his first and second choice were both injured. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
DuncanRG Posted 7 November, 2017 Posted 7 November, 2017 He made some good saves, but also had the same issues as he did with us - coming for balls he shouldn't, getting caught out when playing sweeper keeper etc. He's got the ability, but I don't think he's ever been mentally strong enough. Exactly right. He was lucky not to give away a penalty. Whatever we think of him, and I actually liked him, Jamie Redknapp selected him as his goalkeeper of the week. I think that one of the best managers around knew him and wanted him and then played him, says it all for me. Pochettino feels he can get the most out of his (obvious) ability. We or Paulo may not have felt the same way, which is fair enough. Doesn't make selling the wrong decision.
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