Saint Albert Posted 24 December, 2017 Posted 24 December, 2017 I am reminded of how Spurs blew the Bale money on over-priced mediocrity. We sit here at Christmas, sat a perilous 3 points above the relegation zone, and our only player capable of scoring is out with a hamstring for the next number of weeks. The forthcoming transfer window is perhaps the most important ever in Saint's history. Good point. This will be a real test of the club’s mettle.
SuperSAINT Posted 24 December, 2017 Posted 24 December, 2017 http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-target-quizzed-interest-inter-milan-atletico-madrid-also-linked/
DT Posted 24 December, 2017 Posted 24 December, 2017 We need. A friggin. Goalkeeper. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Dalek2003 Posted 24 December, 2017 Posted 24 December, 2017 Christ on a bike you’re ****ing relentless aren’t you ! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Yes, and I wish the Board was as well. This is not a time for sitting on the fence. Need to make decisions now.
Dusic Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 Breaking... Celtic accept bid from Brighton for striker Moussa Dembélé. Two clubs have reached agreement on transfer fee of £18 million From Sky. Decent show of ambition for January.
Suhari Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 Breaking... Celtic accept bid from Brighton for striker Moussa Dembélé. Two clubs have reached agreement on transfer fee of £18 million From Sky. Decent show of ambition for January. If that is true and Brighton....BRIGHTON are about to spend more than our transfer record on a signing then something is wrong somewhere.
Dusic Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 If that is true and Brighton....BRIGHTON are about to spend more than our transfer record on a signing then something is wrong somewhere.If they stay up they have a decent chance to build a good PL setup. Decent fanbase (more ST holders than us), big catchment area, new training ground, nice location for players to live, momentum... Dembele a few months ago was being linked with the top sides so thst seems a fairly decent price for an experienced 21 year old striker.
Toomer Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 Breaking... Celtic accept bid from Brighton for striker Moussa Dembélé. Two clubs have reached agreement on transfer fee of £18 million From Sky. Decent show of ambition for January. Celtic are no longer our feeder club then.
Convict Colony Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 Fake news local reporter up there Alison Conroy @AlisonGConroy I’m told Celtic haven’t accepted an £18m pound bid from Brighton for Dembele
Pamplemousse Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 You just know what’s going to happen. We’re going to sit on our hands the whole of January and maybe sign someone which will be announced two hours before the deadline.
Suhari Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 You just know what’s going to happen. We’re going to sit on our hands the whole of January and maybe sign someone which will be announced two hours before the deadline. Arias. Forren. etc.
SuperSAINT Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 Breaking... Celtic accept bid from Brighton for striker Moussa Dembélé. Two clubs have reached agreement on transfer fee of £18 million From Sky. Decent show of ambition for January. Wowsers. £18m in today's market is good for Dembele. Fortunately our recruiters feel Shane Long will be good enough for this season.
Window Cleaner Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 Not really expecting a lot of incoming activity, squad is top heavy (in numbers not on quality). VvD sold and maybe one or two little other little outs.
stevy777_x Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 Here is what my January shopping would be: Sell VVD, Tadic and Long = 85m Buy Moussa Dembele Mkhitaryan Walcott= 70m Both Mkhitaryan and Walcott are surplus to requirements at their respective clubs Take the rest to lay off Pelligrino and bring in a quality manager from another club. Attacking options would be Austin Gabbiadini Dembele Walcott Miktaryan Boufal and Redmond. Good mix of pace, trickery and skill. Who wants me to replace Ross Wilson? ;-)
the saint in winchester Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 Here is what my January shopping would be: Sell VVD, Tadic and Long = 85m Buy Moussa Dembele Mkhitaryan Walcott= 70m Both Mkhitaryan and Walcott are surplus to requirements at their respective clubs Take the rest to lay off Pelligrino and bring in a quality manager from another club. Attacking options would be Austin Gabbiadini Dembele Walcott Miktaryan Boufal and Redmond. Good mix of pace, trickery and skill. Who wants me to replace Ross Wilson? ;-) You haven't factored in the wages for Mik and Walcott. There wouldn't be much left. However, I do agree with you, especially on Walcott and Dembele. I would do the deal with Celtic quickly before they reach agreement with Brighton. £25M offered and accepted, please, but taken off the market immediately, player sold.
Saint Matty 76 Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 Why would Mkhitaryan step down from Champions League on £200k to a lower mid-table club on around £70k. Dembele and Walcott in with van Dijk and Long out would be good though. Agree that we should shift Tadic in the Summer though, one of the least productive #10s I've ever seen.
stevy777_x Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 Why would Mkhitaryan step down from Champions League on £200k to a lower mid-table club on around £70k. Dembele and Walcott in with van Dijk and Long out would be good though. Agree that we should shift Tadic in the Summer though, one of the least productive #10s I've ever seen. Well maybe because he's hardly played this season. Talk about going back to Dortmund, I don't see them paying him 200k a week either. Let's just show some ambition, Van Dijk Tadic and Long are one of our best paid players having signed new contracts last year so wage bill would be going down quite a bit and allow us to recruit these players. Maybe Mkhitryan is out of our league but let's show we are ambitious.
csh398 Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 Well maybe because he's hardly played this season. Talk about going back to Dortmund, I don't see them paying him 200k a week either. Let's just show some ambition, Van Dijk Tadic and Long are one of our best paid players having signed new contracts last year so wage bill would be going down quite a bit and allow us to recruit these players. Maybe Mkhitryan is out of our league but let's show we are ambitious. Some have clearly had an egg nog or two too many. Happy Christmas
DT Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 Brighton are as well run and ambitious as we are clearly not Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 December, 2017 Posted 25 December, 2017 Who wants me to replace Ross Wilson? ;-) Not me Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
S-Clarke Posted 26 December, 2017 Posted 26 December, 2017 Ok, so we're approaching what is likely to be our most decisive transfer window in recent times. Get this wrong and it will have huge repercussions. What do we need to do? Ship out some of the squad to free up space and wages - Long, Gardos, Bedranek (loan), VVD, McQueen (loan), Pied, McCarthy. Use the funds to strengthen the entire squad. New GK - Someone good enough to push Fraser immediately. New CB - Replacement for VVD - someone who could form a partnership with Hoedt long term. New ST - Absolute must, given that we're now probably missing our only goal scorer for most of the season. We need someone strong, quick, tall- someone in the ilk of Aboubakar at Porto (not saying he is realistic, but that 'type' of player). New attacking midfield player - Again, an absolute must for me. Someone who can play across the front 3, but someone who actually has genuine pace and the ability to get in behind and stretch teams. It's all way too safe and predictable right now. New RB - Someone to push Cedric who we can rely on - as we seemingly don't want to use Pied. Big bucks to be spent on a CB and ST. Key attributes for any new additional would be pace, power, strength and height. Get that injected back into the spine of this team. This transfer window will show a lot about us as a club and it's time to put this fabled 'black box' into action.
SuperSAINT Posted 26 December, 2017 Posted 26 December, 2017 Ok, so we're approaching what is likely to be our most decisive transfer window in recent times. Get this wrong and it will have huge repercussions. What do we need to do? Ship out some of the squad to free up space and wages - Long, Gardos, Bedranek (loan), VVD, McQueen (loan), Pied, McCarthy. Use the funds to strengthen the entire squad. New GK - Someone good enough to push Fraser immediately. New CB - Replacement for VVD - someone who could form a partnership with Hoedt long term. New ST - Absolute must, given that we're now probably missing our only goal scorer for most of the season. We need someone strong, quick, tall- someone in the ilk of Aboubakar at Porto (not saying he is realistic, but that 'type' of player). New attacking midfield player - Again, an absolute must for me. Someone who can play across the front 3, but someone who actually has genuine pace and the ability to get in behind and stretch teams. It's all way too safe and predictable right now. New RB - Someone to push Cedric who we can rely on - as we seemingly don't want to use Pied. Big bucks to be spent on a CB and ST. Key attributes for any new additional would be pace, power, strength and height. Get that injected back into the spine of this team. This transfer window will show a lot about us as a club and it's time to put this fabled 'black box' into action. Yep, pretty much all of that is needed, during the worst time to sign players of value... To be decided by a hapless recruitment team, to supply a hapless coach. Not sure I'm too optimistic.
S-Clarke Posted 26 December, 2017 Posted 26 December, 2017 Yep, pretty much all of that is needed, during the worst time to sign players of value... To be decided by a hapless recruitment team, to supply a hapless coach. Not sure I'm too optimistic. To be honest, our signings in the summer were better than previous windows (Bedranek aside). More along the lines of proven first team quality who go straight in and improve the 11, so a couple more of them this window and we may swing ourselves around. We do of course also need a manager who is able to coach and pick a consistent 11...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 December, 2017 Posted 26 December, 2017 To be honest, our signings in the summer were better than previous windows (Bedranek aside). More along the lines of proven first team quality who go straight in and improve the 11, so a couple more of them this window and we may swing ourselves around. We do of course also need a manager who is able to coach and pick a consistent 11... Adrian's Walcott / Dembele shout is a very good one for starters.
S-Clarke Posted 26 December, 2017 Posted 26 December, 2017 Hoedt in a settle back 4 has a lot of potential. Lemina can be a great player. We had a terrific window on paper, keeping everyone and adding first team players. Add two more of similar quality...why would it solve all MP's problems? Because we wouldn't be relying on Long to score all our goals.
Disco Stu Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 Anybody know anything about Jack Hendry? https://www.clubcall.com/southampton/saints-could-enter-hendry-race-1872760.html
Suhari Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 Anybody know anything about Jack Hendry? https://www.clubcall.com/southampton/saints-could-enter-hendry-race-1872760.html Seems slightly strange to be linked to young CBs when we have Stephens, Gardos and Bednarek in the squad.
Saint Garrett Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 Seems slightly strange to be linked to young CBs when we have Stephens, Gardos and Bednarek in the squad. You know Gardos is like 30 right?
saint-crinny Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 You haven't factored in the wages for Mik and Walcott. There wouldn't be much left. However, I do agree with you, especially on Walcott and Dembele. I would do the deal with Celtic quickly before they reach agreement with Brighton. £25M offered and accepted, please, but taken off the market immediately, player sold. What also hasn't been factored in here is that neither Miki or Walcott would consider coming here, and we'd never even get to a wages discussion. Not really about not showing ambition, those two are a couple of levels above us
ericb Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 What also hasn't been factored in here is that neither Miki or Walcott would consider coming here, and we'd never even get to a wages discussion. Not really about not showing ambition, those two are a couple of levels above us Actually that's not true of Walcott. Doesn't mean he will come of course, but he would consider it.
SuperSAINT Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 Anybody know anything about Jack Hendry? https://www.clubcall.com/southampton/saints-could-enter-hendry-race-1872760.html Was linked a little while ago too. He might be like Bednarek, but actually good.
vectraman Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 Andy Carroll. Or a player similar to him, would definitely help us up front. Not I'm sure, a popular choice, but he's a real handful, and what we desperately need up front. Discuss!
S-Clarke Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 Andy Carroll. Or a player similar to him, would definitely help us up front. Not I'm sure, a popular choice, but he's a real handful, and what we desperately need up front. Discuss! I would agree that we need a focal point in attack like him, but we also need people with the ability to supply. I personally wouldn't go anywhere near Carroll as he is too injury prone, you'd only ever get handfulls of games from the bloke before long lay-offs. We already have one of those in Charlie.
Suhari Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 You know Gardos is like 30 right? Really? I'd always thought he was much younger than that. Good that we've seen the best years of his career then.
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 Really? I'd always thought he was much younger than that. Good that we've seen the best years of his career then. Well he's actually 29 and is proving for all to see that for a dump footballer a contract is like gold in Fort Knox.
SuperSAINT Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 I would agree that we need a focal point in attack like him, but we also need people with the ability to supply. Giroud would be perfect and if Gao mean't business, that's who we'd get. Will probably end up with Mitrovic.
Dublin Saint Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 Well Van Dijk and buy Johnny Evans, Ryan Sessegnonn and Mouse Dembele from Celtic. Please
Webby Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 We need a gk too. Get rid of Forster, if anyone wants him that is.
SuperSAINT Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 I never have any idea how much players are worth now. What would Theo cost these days? Ox went for £40m with only 12 months left on his deal FFS.
ericb Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 I never have any idea how much players are worth now. What would Theo cost these days? Ox went for £40m with only 12 months left on his deal FFS. Wages in the region of £120k p.w and a fee of about £50m would be my guess.
Saint Albert Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 I found out about an alleged Saints ITK while snooping around one of the Liverpool forums. He’s on Reddit, claims to have a contact inside the club, and posted the following... https://np.reddit.com/r/SaintsFC/comments/7m3fl6/transfer_thread_prejan/drsi39o/ Interesting re potential targets but not 100% accurate in light of the recent Wilson article in the Telegraph.
DT Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 A goalkeeper is first requirement Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
SuperSAINT Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 @ed_aarons: Understand Everton have agreed £25m fee with Besiktas for Cenk Tosun. Striker expected to move when transfer window opens #efc
Saint-Fred Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 Well Van Dijk and buy Johnny Evans, Ryan Sessegnonn and Mouse Dembele from Celtic. Please Man City couldn't get Evans what hope have we got?
Toon Saint Posted 27 December, 2017 Posted 27 December, 2017 Wages in the region of £120k p.w and a fee of about £50m would be my guess. Wages, yes. Fee would be nowhere near that considering he's barely played this season and Wenger is actively looking to trim the squad. £15m-£18m I reckon.
SKD Posted 27 December, 2017 Author Posted 27 December, 2017 Wages in the region of £120k p.w and a fee of about £50m would be my guess. If Walcott goes for anything close to £50m then I will officially give up with modern football. Don’t really get the hype on here for him if I’m honest. Pretty average player, doesn’t know his best position and always injured. He’ll fit in well then.
the saint in winchester Posted 28 December, 2017 Posted 28 December, 2017 Agree with ToonSaint. Hopefully an offer of £20M to secure him, and a £10M signing on payment to TW as sweetener for accepting a wage within our structure.
James Posted 28 December, 2017 Posted 28 December, 2017 I found out about an alleged Saints ITK while snooping around one of the Liverpool forums. He’s on Reddit, claims to have a contact inside the club, and posted the following... https://np.reddit.com/r/SaintsFC/comments/7m3fl6/transfer_thread_prejan/drsi39o/ Interesting re potential targets but not 100% accurate in light of the recent Wilson article in the Telegraph. If he’s right on the targets bit then that’s worrying. We won’t be able to secure any of the identified targets in the summer if we are in the Championship. Club seem very very complacent/blind to our situation and how bad we’ve been playing recently.
Yorkshire Saint Posted 28 December, 2017 Posted 28 December, 2017 I have never been a fan of Brendon Rogers but I’d be straight on the phone to Celtic for him and Dembele. Followed up with 2 strong Centre halves and a winger so Boufal can have some freedom. Keeper FF 4 defenders CS RB New CB WH 2 holding mids OR Lemina 3 Attacking mids New LW MG Boufal Striker Dembele Sell Long, McQueen, Redmond
OldNick Posted 28 December, 2017 Posted 28 December, 2017 I have never been a fan of Brendon Rogers but I’d be straight on the phone to Celtic for him and Dembele. Followed up with 2 strong Centre halves and a winger so Boufal can have some freedom. Keeper FF 4 defenders CS RB New CB WH 2 holding mids OR Lemina 3 Attacking mids New LW MG Boufal Striker Dembele Sell Long, McQueen, Redmond I agree about Rodgers and Dembele, but not selling McQueen and Redmond. A good manager would get the best out of them. Pep obviously can see the potential that Redmond has, and is also frustrated seeing his progress stopped.
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