disconnect Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 An ITK claim on the Reddit forum is that Saints will be signing RB Ryan Fredericks of Fulham, with Targett going the other way on loan. The fee is not yet agreed. I’m not sure what to make of this, since the club only seems to be considering attacking options according to its media mouthpiece in the Telegraph if I recall, but there seems to be a bit of a need for depth at RB as Pied’s contract winds down. Fredericks was speculated as a Swansea/Stoke target last week by the Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5242711/Stoke-Swansea-battle-Fulhams-Ryan-Fredericks.html S**t Les, wrong Ryan!!
Toon Saint Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Apparently Erik Sviatchenko was clocked at Glasgow airport this morning by various peeps on twitter. Rumoured destination is Southampton. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Turkish Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Apparently Erik Sviatchenko was clocked at Glasgow airport this morning by various peeps on twitter. Rumoured destination is Southampton. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Don't we already have enough Centre backs not quite good enough for the premier league?
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Don't we already have enough Centre backs not quite good enough for the premier league? All of them.... allegedly
Dusic Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Looking back at those initial post VVD hype articles the links are either i.) Hilarious, ii.) Delusional or iii.) Both: Walcott - asking him to take a pay cut but probably the most realistic Benteke - never happening. Palace would want profit on the £30m they paid and he is apparently on over 100k a week which we will not pay Mawson - talk of £25m+ valuation which we wouldn't pay and it seems like we aren't even interested in a defender now Sessegnon - LOL Cenk Tosun - was already in very advanced negotiations with Everton, who paid 25m for him plus 120k a week wages which we wouldn't have got near Sturridge - still a slight possibility on loan but no way we would pay the fee they would want for a perm. Shaw - again we would be asking him to take a huge pay cut (probably 50k a week) and would be needing to pay a big record fee. The fact these were fed to the cosy Journalists is quite worrying: were the club just trying to soften the VVD blow and make themselves seem like a big player? We were never going to be able to sign most of these players, delusional if they thought they would, deceptive if they knew they couldn't. In terms of realistic signings: I think Guido Carrillo will join this Jan. We miss a big target man and he has a good goals to minutes ratio.
DT Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Don't we already have enough Centre backs not quite good enough for the premier league? more championship planning. Hoedt will be sold instantly.
torsaint Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 In my opinion, it's too late to sign any player or players who would make a difference. Relegation, which was a strong possibility before Christmas, when the board could have acted by changing the manager, has now become a strong probability. As the window passes with no inward transfer action, the suspicion must be that this is also the conclusion that the board has reached. That in practical terms, the squad cannot be improved with more players who would be similar to those we already have. Expect Reid and Ralph are spending more time looking for their next jobs after relegation. Same with our better players. The club is riddled with complacency.
trousers Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Lol, I don’t think choccyboxkid will be returning. I wonder if those that criticised people for being sceptical about choccyboxkid's ITK credentials at the time will also be keeping a low profile....? Until the next time of course....
shurlock Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 So we're stuck with a squad who've finished top half for years and all shown they can do it. Disaster. Still peddling that myth.
Ultimatt Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 So we're stuck with a squad who've finished top half for years and all shown they can do it. Disaster. So we're stuck with a squad who've finished top half for years and all shown they can do it* *minus all the actually good players that moved on to greener pastures and haven't been adequately replaced.
ErwinK1961 Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Crikey, if Eric Sviatchenko and Ryan Fredericks turn out to be the 'couple' of signings Pellegrino was referring to after Watford..... my goodness.
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Erik Sviatchenko apparently flew into London city airport from Glasgow so unlikely he's coming to us. Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk
Suhari Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Crikey, if Eric Sviatchenko and Ryan Fredericks turn out to be the 'couple' of signings Pellegrino was referring to after Watford..... my goodness. Remember we don't buy success...we nurture it. And given the excellence of the coaching demonstrated so far this season, and our track record of picking up unknown gems like Gardos and Bedneck (or whatever he's called), I am sure these two signings will be on Liverpool's radar come the end of the season. #inleswetrust
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 I am not sure the side will be improved by any major signing. What we lack is on-field leadership, we are too easily bullied and fold too quick. We need an inspirational captain to lead from the front a la Jimmy Case or Alan Ball. Guys who never knew when they were beaten.
Saint_John Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Apparently Erik Sviatchenko was clocked at Glasgow airport this morning by various peeps on twitter. Rumoured destination is Southampton. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Was he at that Danish club we played a couple of years ago ?? ; Captain & CB when we only scored 1 goal in 2 games (1-1 & 0-1) and that was a soft pen. Looked a GOOD leader on the pitch from what I can remember.
shurlock Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Was he at that Danish club we played a couple of years ago ?? ; Captain & CB when we only scored 1 goal in 2 games (1-1 & 0-1) and that was a soft pen. Looked a GOOD leader on the pitch from what I can remember. Yep that's him.
wild-saint Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 I am not sure the side will be improved by any major signing. What we lack is on-field leadership, we are too easily bullied and fold too quick. We need an inspirational captain to lead from the front a la Jimmy Case or Alan Ball. Guys who never knew when they were beaten. Yeah I agree with this, maybe an old head
SuperSAINT Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/15/por-southampton-track-udinese-defender-widmer/ Right Back. Excuse my typo above, it's 'Silvan'
S-Clarke Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Widmer is a good player, but he's a first choice RB really. Maybe we're preparing the ground for Cedric's inevitable departure.
SuperSAINT Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Widmer is a good player, but he's a first choice RB really. Maybe we're preparing the ground for Cedric's inevitable departure. I shall enjoy links to good players while it lasts until we flash forward a couple of seasons and Jermaine Wright & Hajto will be our right-back again
trousers Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Was he at that Danish club we played a couple of years ago ?? ; Captain & CB when we only scored 1 goal in 2 games (1-1 & 0-1) and that was a soft pen. Looked a GOOD leader on the pitch from what I can remember. Do we know why he's only played one game for Celtic this season?
saintwbu Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Widmer is a good player, but he's a first choice RB really. Maybe we're preparing the ground for Cedric's inevitable departure. Cedric could definitely be improved upon, I wouldn't be against his departure
sadoldgit Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Do we know why he's only played one game for Celtic this season? Out with a knee ligament injury until November.
Killers Knee Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Do we know why he's only played one game for Celtic this season? https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-defender-erik-sviatchenko-15m-11749555 He has fallen down the pecking order at Park Head, 2 players before him and is want away, he was linked with a move to Copenhagen a couple weeks ago for the princely sum of £1.5m, but obviously didn't happen.
woodsaint Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-defender-erik-sviatchenko-15m-11749555 He has fallen down the pecking order at Park Head, 2 players before him and is want away, he was linked with a move to Copenhagen a couple weeks ago for the princely sum of £1.5m, but obviously didn't happen. He is still arguably the best centre back Celtic have. Before injury he was in excellent form. Celtic fans not happy about selling him and keeping Boyata.
Gorgiesaint Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Was he at that Danish club we played a couple of years ago ?? ; Captain & CB when we only scored 1 goal in 2 games (1-1 & 0-1) and that was a soft pen. Looked a GOOD leader on the pitch from what I can remember. If that's correct then maybe he can help solve some of these problems of the midfield collapsing onto the defence every 2nd half. We do need someone vocal in the back four/five which we don't have at the moment. At £1.5m even Les will like the cheapness of the solution. Has to be worth taking a chance at that price.
S-Clarke Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 If that's correct then maybe he can help solve some of these problems of the midfield collapsing onto the defence every 2nd half. We do need someone vocal in the back four/five which we don't have at the moment. At £1.5m even Les will like the cheapness of the solution. Has to be worth taking a chance at that price. Just like us to replace a £75m CB with a £1.5m one. Not that I see this happening. We'll stick with Hoedt, Yoshida, Bedranek and Stephens, with Gardos and Jones in case something horrific happens. More than enough. Not saying it's anywhere near the quality we've enjoyed, quite a fundamental downgrade, but it's more than enough in numbers and enough to secure survival if managed correctly.
aintforever Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 but it's more than enough in numbers and enough to secure survival if managed correctly. I not sure about that, you can have a hundred centre backs but if the two out on the pitch are not good enough you're going down. I'm happy with Yoshida and Stephens as backup but being a couple of injuries away from a Yoshida - Bedranek pairing is not strong enough.
St_Tel49 Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Just like us to replace a £75m CB with a £1.5m one. Not that I see this happening. We'll stick with Hoedt, Yoshida, Bedranek and Stephens, with Gardos and Jones in case something horrific happens. More than enough. Not saying it's anywhere near the quality we've enjoyed, quite a fundamental downgrade, but it's more than enough in numbers and enough to secure survival if managed correctly. Yes but we'll sell him to Liverpool next year for £100m
OldNick Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 I wonder if in the boards former lives, that they were purveyors of milk and took so long in deciding what to do they invented cheese.
Useful Idiot Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 I hope that we are going for Sviatchenko. From what little I've seen of him he looks like he might have a bit more mental toughness than the snowflakes we have in the squad at the moment. Even if he's a cheap buy, it might offer us some drive on field, which might help lift the whole team. We are desperately short on character and determination.
Saint86 Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Just like us to replace a £75m CB with a £1.5m one. Not that I see this happening. We'll stick with Hoedt, Yoshida, Bedranek and Stephens, with Gardos and Jones in case something horrific happens. More than enough. Not saying it's anywhere near the quality we've enjoyed, quite a fundamental downgrade, but it's more than enough in numbers and enough to secure survival if managed correctly. This screams "relegation signing" to me.
hypochondriac Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Just like us to replace a £75m CB with a £1.5m one. Not that I see this happening. We'll stick with Hoedt, Yoshida, Bedranek and Stephens, with Gardos and Jones in case something horrific happens. More than enough. Not saying it's anywhere near the quality we've enjoyed, quite a fundamental downgrade, but it's more than enough in numbers and enough to secure survival if managed correctly. Not sure why the price is relevant, it could be a very canny signing. Doubt it will change much at the moment though if we keep with the tactics we have right now.
SuperSAINT Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5346862/west-brom-bid-12m-for-fulham-captain-tom-cairney/
Monk Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5346862/west-brom-bid-12m-for-fulham-captain-tom-cairney/ Interesting considering Pardew said they would have to sell to buy.
Topcat Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 I am not sure the side will be improved by any major signing. What we lack is on-field leadership, we are too easily bullied and fold too quick. We need an inspirational captain to lead from the front a la Jimmy Case or Alan Ball. Guys who never knew when they were beaten. Sadly very true.
SuperSAINT Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 (edited) SSN: SAINTS HOPEFUL ON CARRILLO Southampton remain in talks with Monaco for striker Guido Carrillo and are hopeful of concluding a deal, Sky Sports News understands. Meanwhile, the Saints have not discussed potential moves for Atletico Madrid pair Nico Gaitan nor Kevin Gameiro, contrary to reports. So if we aren't going to get Theo & Gaitan isn't on the list..... Then who's our speedster going to be? Sisto please. Edited 15 January, 2018 by SuperSAINT
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 SSN: He has scored one goal less than Gallagher this season, is he really going to be the answer to our problems. We need Premier League experienced battlers
Topcat Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Two weeks of transfer period gone and no signings. Gao's £210m+ investment in Club at risk of being reduced to under £50m.
Faz Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 He has scored one goal less than Gallagher this season, is he really going to be the answer to our problems. We need Premier League experienced battlers Redknap, Bernard and Quashie?
aintforever Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Two weeks of transfer period gone and no signings. Gao's £210m+ investment in Club at risk of being reduced to under £50m. That’s the worrying thing. How’s he going to pay back the £200mill bank loan when we are stuck in the Championship? He could easily just asset strip to pay off the debt and leave a right ****ing mess.
Topcat Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 That’s the worrying thing. How’s he going to pay back the £200mill bank loan when we are stuck in the Championship? He could easily just asset strip to pay off the debt and leave a right ****ing mess. How much debt is owed to McQuarrie Bank etc?
washsaint Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 If our idiot manager has any say in any signings we are absolutely f****d. He couldn't spot a decent player if his life depended on it. He's a real space cadet and if his eye for a player is as bad as his managerial nouse we are screwed.
SuperSAINT Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 @ed_aarons: Brighton have offered Bournemouth £4m for midfielder Andrew Surman
simo Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 @ed_aarons: Brighton have offered Bournemouth £4m for midfielder Andrew Surman Am i alone in thinking (unless his contract is nearly up) that's a "derisory" offer !?
SuperSAINT Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Southampton hopeful of landing Guido Carrillo Southampton remain in talks with Monaco for striker Guido Carrillo and are hopeful of concluding a deal, Sky Sports News understands. Sky Sports News reported earlier this month that the Saints were keen to sign the 26-year-old, who previously worked with boss Mauricio Pellegrino in their native Argentina. He is thought to be valued at around £15m and Sky Sports News understands reports of a £17.5m offer from Southampton are not accurate Carillo has made 22 appearances this season but just two of them have been starts in Ligue 1. He has scored 20 goals in over 50 appearances for Monaco since signing from Estudiantes in 2015. Southampton, who are struggling in the Premier League and sit outside the relegation places by just a point, are seeking a target man to play alongside Charlie Austin when he returns from injury. Sky Sports News understands they also remain keen to sign Theo Walcott from Arsenal, but have not discussed potential moves for Atletico pair Nico Gaitan nor Kevin Gameiro, contrary to reports. Source: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11209432/southampton-hopeful-of-landing-guido-carrillo-as-talks-with-monaco-continue
SuperSAINT Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 Am i alone in thinking (unless his contract is nearly up) that's a "derisory" offer !? You are not alone. TBH, I was thinking about him the other day as part of my 'Who the f*ck do we sign if we get relegated' team.
SuperSAINT Posted 15 January, 2018 Posted 15 January, 2018 @Record_Sport: Celtic outcast Erik Sviatchenko set to join former club FC Midtjylland on loan
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