ALWAYS_SFC Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 You wouldn't write off a player after 10 games and two months - would you?? At 40million they would have expected a bit more tbh, but personally i don`t rate him too highly anyway. So, no not writing him off as he is at the standard i have expected... average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 Would love to get Torres and Walcott, add some excitement and experience in attack. But we'll just sign a young unknown centre back I imagine.Everything about Saints recruitment policy suggests we won't waste a lot of wages on players who have seen their best days. Rightly so IMO, although Walcott is intriguing. Leave West Ham to take Torres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 I remember being very impressed by him when he came on as a sub for Real Sociedad in a pre-season friendly at St Mary's back in 2013. He looked the classiest player on the pitch. He was relatively unknown and hadn't broken into the French national squad then and we could have signed him for around 12 million but obviously nobody at SFC thought he was worth it. If we would've bought him in 2013 we would've sold him in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 You wouldn't write off a player after 10 games and two months - would you??Exactly, that would be stupid. Just like writing a manager off after ten games as well. Oh... Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 Would love to get Torres and Walcott, add some excitement and experience in attack. But we'll just sign a young unknown centre back I imagine. Both of their games rely (relied) heavily on pace. Torres lost his years ago due to injury, Walcott less clear cut but has been seriously injured, can't get back in Arsenal's team and would be a major gamble. We need players with genuine pace not players who used to have it but definitely or probably don't anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 Would like Vincent Aboubekar, would be ideal for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 Both of their games rely (relied) heavily on pace. Torres lost his years ago due to injury, Walcott less clear cut but has been seriously injured, can't get back in Arsenal's team and would be a major gamble. We need players with genuine pace not players who used to have it but definitely or probably don't anymore. Disagree...we need attacking players with guile, experience and a football brain. We've got pace in Boufal and Gabbi. Redmond Long and Austin do not possess enough between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 (edited) Would like Vincent Aboubekar, would be ideal for us I read his name on here before, and having not previously heard his name googled him. Looks impressive on the youtube clips - but so did Steve De Ridder of course - but also found that he's recently signed a contract extension until 2021 with a €50m buy out clause. https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/aboubakar-signs-four-year-porto-deal-eu50m-buy-out-clause Edited 14 November, 2017 by Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Mitrovic according to some Serbian news source called 'Mondo'. http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2017/11/14/mitrovic-wants-out-at-nufc-two-premier-league-rivals-have-upped-their-interest-reports/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Mitrovic according to some Serbian news source called 'Mondo'. http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2017/11/14/mitrovic-wants-out-at-nufc-two-premier-league-rivals-have-upped-their-interest-reports/ I'd take him at the right price we need some nastiness in the did a! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Yeah get Shelvy in for his passing ability , release Gabbi into the box with a through pass etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 We need a keeper. Any keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 We need a keeper. Any keeper Would you have Boruc back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 16 November, 2017 Share Posted 16 November, 2017 Would you have Boruc back?Yes and I would also go for Darren Randolph. Issue though with our coach he would be sh1t within a month. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Still we have funny jovial Stuart Taylor stealing wages for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 16 November, 2017 Share Posted 16 November, 2017 Stuart Taylor was clearly signed to be a backup. Every team has one, he isn't a problem and if he is a good character then thats a good thing. He is probably doing coaching badges at the same time. We have problems but Stuart Taylor is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 16 November, 2017 Share Posted 16 November, 2017 Surely a backup has to be ready, willing and capable to play if needed. Otherwise they are not fit for purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 16 November, 2017 Share Posted 16 November, 2017 I'd go for Adrian from West ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 16 November, 2017 Share Posted 16 November, 2017 Stuart Taylor was clearly signed to be a backup. Every team has one, he isn't a problem and if he is a good character then thats a good thing. He is probably doing coaching badges at the same time. We have problems but Stuart Taylor is not one of them.What crap so when McCarthy was injured? We had to put in an 18 year old v Arsenal. If it's not a problem why hasnt he replaced the clown we have? What are we a training school for people to do badges or a Prem side? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 16 November, 2017 Share Posted 16 November, 2017 What crap so when McCarthy was injured? We had to put in an 18 year old v Arsenal. If it's not a problem why hasnt he replaced the clown we have? What are we a training school for people to do badges or a Prem side? Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkWe chose to play Lewis and it didnt impact the result. If you are going to moan about a keeper then its surely McCarthy, the no2 keeper doesn't challenge an out of form no1? The one who gets paid a lot more than Taylor and keeps getting injured. The one who was brought in to challenge Forster, not to act as a third choice backup that every team needs but rarely, if ever, uses. Taylor is no3 and would only play in an injury crisis, just like every other team's third choice keeper. Is that a major issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 16 November, 2017 Share Posted 16 November, 2017 If Les decides to sell van Dijk to Liverpool, he should demand Joe Gomez in part exchange. If he could get Lallana as well, that would be a great deal for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 16 November, 2017 Share Posted 16 November, 2017 If Les decides to sell van Dijk to Liverpool, he should demand Joe Gomez in part exchange. If he could get Lallana as well, that would be a great deal for us. Might as well ask for Salah and Coutinho as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 16 November, 2017 Share Posted 16 November, 2017 Stuart Taylor was clearly signed to be a backup. Every team has one, he isn't a problem and if he is a good character then thats a good thing. He is probably doing coaching badges at the same time. We have problems but Stuart Taylor is not one of them. For "back up" read "last resort". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 16 November, 2017 Share Posted 16 November, 2017 We chose to play Lewis and it didnt impact the result. If you are going to moan about a keeper then its surely McCarthy, the no2 keeper doesn't challenge an out of form no1? The one who gets paid a lot more than Taylor and keeps getting injured. The one who was brought in to challenge Forster, not to act as a third choice backup that every team needs but rarely, if ever, uses. Taylor is no3 and would only play in an injury crisis, just like every other team's third choice keeper. Is that a major issue?When your number 1 is so sh1t of course it is did you forget McCarthy was injured nearly all of last season so he wasn't number 3. It didnt impact the result but it's ok to slaughter the confidence of young Lewis....that's ok then. We got in a keeper we are scared to play and gave him an extra year FFS and no competition for the under performing clown. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 16 November, 2017 Share Posted 16 November, 2017 When your number 1 is so sh1t of course it is did you forget McCarthy was injured nearly all of last season so he wasn't number 3. It didnt impact the result but it's ok to slaughter the confidence of young Lewis....that's ok then. We got in a keeper we are scared to play and gave him an extra year FFS and no competition for the under performing clown. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Lewis is doing quite well by all accounts atm ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 16 November, 2017 Share Posted 16 November, 2017 Lewis is doing quite well by all accounts atm !Oh yes in that footballing hot bed of talent....my point is it's another of the ridiculous decisions made in our goalkeeping dept. We should have recruited the best young keeper in championship not someone who has played dozen games in 5 years Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 November, 2017 Share Posted 16 November, 2017 If Les decides to sell van Dijk to Liverpool, he should demand Joe Gomez in part exchange. If he could get Lallana as well, that would be a great deal for us. Mad as a box of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 19 November, 2017 Share Posted 19 November, 2017 Someone on the Not606 forum is claiming that Theo Walcott had discussions with Saints’ representatives during the international break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 19 November, 2017 Share Posted 19 November, 2017 I really hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashnats Posted 19 November, 2017 Share Posted 19 November, 2017 Someone on the Not606 forum is claiming that Theo Walcott had discussions with Saints’ representatives during the international break. player-manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 November, 2017 Share Posted 19 November, 2017 I really hope not Not seen us play for a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 19 November, 2017 Share Posted 19 November, 2017 Unfortunately plenty, and if u think he will solve problems ur deluded, I suppose he could mark one of there quicker players when WERE attacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 20 November, 2017 Share Posted 20 November, 2017 Sell Long (10m maybe) Tadic (similar maybe more 15) and VVD for no less than 70. Buy Walcott (probably 20ish) Torres on loan ( can't believe it would happen really and use Stephens Hoedt and Yoshida at the back. Survive with 45 ish points, get rid of Pellegrino whenever and Reed at the same time, definitely before need g to appoint a new manager and then in the summer we will see what the Gap family's immediate intent is. In the summer get rid of Forster (15) Bertrand (20) Clasie, Austin and start a proper fresh team and management. Had enough of this ineffective sh**. Pretty footvsll/possession football is great but only if goals come. Would rather player long ball in the short term if we start scoring again!!!! The teams that survive this league are usually the ones at the bottom with the best strikers not the best defenders. Our defence (first choice back 7) is very arguably top 5/6 quality but our front 4 are currently bottom 3 quality!!!! Revolution required over the next few months as evolution has stalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 November, 2017 Share Posted 20 November, 2017 Sell Long (10m maybe) Tadic (similar maybe more 15) and VVD for no less than 70. Buy Walcott (probably 20ish) Torres on loan ( can't believe it would happen really and use Stephens Hoedt and Yoshida at the back. Survive with 45 ish points, get rid of Pellegrino whenever and Reed at the same time, definitely before need g to appoint a new manager and then in the summer we will see what the Gap family's immediate intent is. In the summer get rid of Forster (15) Bertrand (20) Clasie, Austin and start a proper fresh team and management. Had enough of this ineffective sh**. Pretty footvsll/possession football is great but only if goals come. Would rather player long ball in the short term if we start scoring again!!!! The teams that survive this league are usually the ones at the bottom with the best strikers not the best defenders. Our defence (first choice back 7) is very arguably top 5/6 quality but our front 4 are currently bottom 3 quality!!!! Revolution required over the next few months as evolution has stalled. We'd never get 70 for vvd Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC-TID! Posted 20 November, 2017 Share Posted 20 November, 2017 Virgil isn’t going until the end of the season. We need strikers/play makers. Theo would help at this point IF he stays fit. Hell, Walcott and Wilshere would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 21 November, 2017 Share Posted 21 November, 2017 I would Sell Virgil £40 million + Bring in the following: Sturridge or Giroud Theo Walcott Then maybe look at another cheap creative player? maybe scout the championship I got slated when I suggested players like Ince, Will Hughes when they were in the lower league.. But somebody like that who we can bring in and develop would be a option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 21 November, 2017 Share Posted 21 November, 2017 What makes you think Giroud is a) available b) would join us? Sturridge good player but can't stay fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 21 November, 2017 Author Share Posted 21 November, 2017 I would Sell Virgil £40 million + Bring in the following: Sturridge or Giroud Theo Walcott Then maybe look at another cheap creative player? maybe scout the championship I got slated when I suggested players like Ince, Will Hughes when they were in the lower league.. But somebody like that who we can bring in and develop would be a option. Sturridge - Extremely high wage demand, dubious injury record, lack of work rate - Avoid, a West Ham signing. Giroud - Simply wouldn't come to us, but would be great if we could persuade him. Walcott - Undecided on this one. Will offer us much needed pace, but isn't the player he once was. I'd like to see a front 3 of: Walcott (LF) New target man type no9 (CF) Gabbi (RF) For me, I think the we are lacking a creative ACM (Davis replacement). I'd be going for Wilshere, but I know he's not everyone's cup of tea on here, so maybe someone from the continent who is similar. I like Aaron Mooy at Huddersfield, but i'm not sure that they would sell in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 21 November, 2017 Share Posted 21 November, 2017 I would Sell Virgil £40 million + Bring in the following: Sturridge or Giroud Theo Walcott Then maybe look at another cheap creative player? maybe scout the championship I got slated when I suggested players like Ince, Will Hughes when they were in the lower league.. But somebody like that who we can bring in and develop would be a option. Do you have any realistic targets? None of those three would be remotely interested in joining us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 21 November, 2017 Share Posted 21 November, 2017 Do you have any realistic targets? None of those three would be remotely interested in joining us. There’s a few ITK rumours out there that Theo is interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 November, 2017 Share Posted 21 November, 2017 Sturridge - Extremely high wage demand, dubious injury record, lack of work rate - Avoid, a West Ham signing. For me, I think the we are lacking a creative ACM (Davis replacement). I'd be going for Wilshere, How someone can post about Sturridges dubious injury record and high wages, then call for the signing of Wilshire in the same post is beyond me. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 21 November, 2017 Share Posted 21 November, 2017 Sell Long (10m maybe) Tadic (similar maybe more 15) and VVD for no less than 70. Buy Walcott (probably 20ish) Torres on loan ( can't believe it would happen really and use Stephens Hoedt and Yoshida at the back. Survive with 45 ish points, get rid of Pellegrino whenever and Reed at the same time, definitely before need g to appoint a new manager and then in the summer we will see what the Gap family's immediate intent is. In the summer get rid of Forster (15) Bertrand (20) Clasie, Austin and start a proper fresh team and management. Had enough of this ineffective sh**. Pretty footvsll/possession football is great but only if goals come. Would rather player long ball in the short term if we start scoring again!!!! The teams that survive this league are usually the ones at the bottom with the best strikers not the best defenders. Our defence (first choice back 7) is very arguably top 5/6 quality but our front 4 are currently bottom 3 quality!!!! Revolution required over the next few months as evolution has stalled.Read the first four words again and question your sanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 21 November, 2017 Share Posted 21 November, 2017 Read the first four words again and question your sanity. It’s not that crazy. Transfer Markt has him at 9 million Euros... https://www.transfermarkt.com/shane-long/profil/spieler/37304 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 21 November, 2017 Share Posted 21 November, 2017 It’s not that crazy. Transfer Markt has him at 9 million Euros... https://www.transfermarkt.com/shane-long/profil/spieler/37304What division are they in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 21 November, 2017 Share Posted 21 November, 2017 What division are they in? I could explain to you that I was employing a colloquial turn of phrase, but I fear that explanation would be lost on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 21 November, 2017 Share Posted 21 November, 2017 Could we persuade Pelle to return? he is exactly what we need not only could he put the ball in the net had the target man attributes but could also hold up the ball and link up others. Who else is of the same mould? Bas Dost? he would never come here though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 21 November, 2017 Share Posted 21 November, 2017 Read the first four words again and question your sanity. Well we mugged WBA £15m for JRod................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 22 November, 2017 Share Posted 22 November, 2017 Could we persuade Pelle to return? he is exactly what we need not only could he put the ball in the net had the target man attributes but could also hold up the ball and link up others. Who else is of the same mould? Bas Dost? he would never come here though... Pelle's on north of £200k a week, and his girlfriend's profile in China seems to have gone through the roof. I somehow doubt he's pining for Shirley High Street and Yates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 22 November, 2017 Share Posted 22 November, 2017 Could we persuade Pelle to return? he is exactly what we need not only could he put the ball in the net had the target man attributes but could also hold up the ball and link up others. Who else is of the same mould? Thought he had a dodgy knee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 22 November, 2017 Share Posted 22 November, 2017 Mitrovic or Ulloa would do a good job for us and not getting any game time , I am sure Claude will be happy to sell to us......neither would need a settling in time. Both are good at focal point of attacks, can find the net and link it - now we just need to offload VVD to pay for one of them :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 22 November, 2017 Share Posted 22 November, 2017 I think we need to change the formation for a few games to see where we are weak as I don't think this get the ball, turn around slowly and pass it back to where it came from is a true reflection of how we can play and who needs to be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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