jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Should have sacked him after losing to Leicester. Our board would rather keep pellegrino and buy cheap than get rid and back new manager with sizeable funds. Vvd sale was all about getting maximum valuation which wouldn't be the case in summer when we are relegated. I truly despise what Reed and Kruegar are doing to our club. Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 I wouldn't anticipate any quality signings this Jan. The team's poor form, uninspiring management and slump towards a very tough fight to avoid relegation isn't exactly going to persuade many to come our way. We'll probably have to make do with what we have and use the money in the summer, probably to help with a Championship promotion challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 I can understand why a player wouldn't want to come here permanently. But no reason we can't go for getting someone in on loan if the parent club is willing e.g. Theo. However did anyone really believe Theo would come to Saints? He must have far better options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Agents stalling, want more ££ and players very reluctant to join a team in real danger of relegation. Definite impact on Theo deal, which is now looking very iffy at best and AN Other, I've no name as of yet but I believe French, who has now decided against a move. I'll try to find out more before the weekend. Hope they are wrong about Theo, I'd like to see him at Saints. Thanks for the info. Seems we're going down with the clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes8 Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Players obviously talk to each other and I’d imagine our current ones wouldn’t be recommending us as a decent bet going forward. Our inept board need to pull their fingers out and do something that’ll at least get the fans on board. Only way we’ll maintain our status is a manager change and just pray we get the bounce effect which sneak us a few points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Should have sacked him after losing to Leicester. Our board would rather keep pellegrino and buy cheap than get rid and back new manager with sizeable funds. Vvd sale was all about getting maximum valuation which wouldn't be the case in summer when we are relegated. I truly despise what Reed and Kruegar are doing to our club. Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk If I told you this bollix was drivel Reed and Kruegar have got the club to 6 7 8 in the League in recent seasons and to a Cup Final and the last few signings included Lemina Boufal and Gabbiadini would that make you feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 If I told you this bollix was drivel Reed and Kruegar have got the club to 6 7 8 in the League in recent seasons and to a Cup Final and the last few signings included Lemina Boufal and Gabbiadini would that make you feel better. This is true. However they are also overseeing a dismal, atrocious season. And (seemingly) not acting decisively to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 9 January, 2018 Author Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Agents stalling, want more ££ and players very reluctant to join a team in real danger of relegation. Definite impact on Theo deal, which is now looking very iffy at best and AN Other, I've no name as of yet but I believe French, who has now decided against a move. I'll try to find out more before the weekend. Hope they are wrong about Theo, I'd like to see him at Saints. And there in lies the problem. We will end up with 3/4th best because our sh!te board have got us in the mess and won’t spend the money required to get us out of it. If our top targets want more because of the mess we’re in, pay them whatever it takes. I can’t blame anyone not wanting to come here though, we can’t be that much of an attractive proposition at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Frustrating, but no real surprise. Our position, and our no-hope manager simply isn't going to help us attract players. A proper manager would help. It should have been obvious to a complete idiot that our slide would make us an even less attractive option than before. But not a matter for concern with Les,or the Lesbians. Should have sacked him after losing to Leicester. Agreed. And if not sacked immediately then it should have set the wheels in motion to get one appointed to maximise the January window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Did you see his hat-trick goal? Insane. Think Long vs Villa, but better. That defending reminds of me of us. http://www.fullmatchesandshows.com/2018/01/09/valencia-vs-las-palmas-highlights-goals/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Frustrating, but no real surprise. Our position, and our no-hope manager simply isn't going to help us attract players. A proper manager would help. I suppose there is a chance that being rejected by our targets might be the impetus needed for Les & Ralph to make the change needed. Although the speed with which they work will probably mean the new manager coming in on January 27th with only a few days left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 I wonder if our rumoured search for a new manager is hindering us signing new players?Well I was told today that Koeman was spotted at St Mary's so who knows Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Well I was told today that Koeman was spotted at St Mary's so who knows Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkWho told you that? I don't believe that's true. Even if we were looking to bring him back, we wouldn't bring him to the stadium whilst the present manager is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Agents stalling, want more ££ and players very reluctant to join a team in real danger of relegation. Definite impact on Theo deal, which is now looking very iffy at best and AN Other, I've no name as of yet but I believe French, who has now decided against a move. I'll try to find out more before the weekend. Hope they are wrong about Theo, I'd like to see him at Saints. Sadly, it was always going to be this way. The time to bring in players in when you are doing well, and seemingly don't need them, because then players WANT to join you. Right now, it feels like we are recruiting for a leper colony, as no-one wants to join us now. We really are going to have to push hard. I would love Walcott in, but that won't be done until 10pm Deadline Day, if at all. We can try for Ihanacheo - at least Leicester are open to selling him. But the big picture is that our league position is already a red flag, and it's going to get even worse in the next 22 days ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Who told you that? I don't believe that's true. Even if we were looking to bring him back, we wouldn't bring him to the stadium whilst the present manager is still there. We have offices in London, is that right? So any discreet meetings would surely take place there. Certainly not at the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Agents stalling, want more ££ and players very reluctant to join a team in real danger of relegation. Definite impact on Theo deal, which is now looking very iffy at best and AN Other, I've no name as of yet but I believe French, who has now decided against a move. I'll try to find out more before the weekend. Hope they are wrong about Theo, I'd like to see him at Saints. Thanks for posting. All Les, Ralph and Co have to do is tell the reluctant potential new players that our present league position is all Virgil’s fault and our results, performances and league position will improve under Pellegrino now Virgil’s gone. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Who told you that? I don't believe that's true. Even if we were looking to bring him back, we wouldn't bring him to the stadium whilst the present manager is still there.Was told 3rd hand from someone at Citroen garage. Was what I said aswell Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 9 January, 2018 Share Posted 9 January, 2018 Who told you that? I don't believe that's true. Even if we were looking to bring him back, we wouldn't bring him to the stadium whilst the present manager is still there. Perhaps he meant the St Mary's district, rather than the stadium. Maybe Ron made friends during his time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit73 Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Although I wouldn't mind seeing RK back in the driving seat, somehow I really doubt it's gonna happen. Not to mention that whole concept of visiting a stadium is totally ridiculous. After all, these days you can have a video conference from any kind of platform, so I really don't see a point in RK dropping by for a chat. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 The most recent thing I read about Koeman is that he’s being lined up to manage the Dutch national side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 The most recent thing I read about Koeman is that he’s being lined up to manage the Dutch national side.That not a job that is going to pay that well. Seems spectacularly unlikely he would come back to us but stranger things have happened. However I think he's got Stoke written all over him. Much like Brendan Rodgers, that's about his kind of level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Perhaps the players we're after actually saw how we play. No wonder they chose not to come. No answer but to appoint a decent manager who can attract players Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 The biggest motivator for most players is money, over the top targets a few million bonus if we escape relegation, they'll soon sign up and play their heart out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit73 Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Perhaps the players we're after actually saw how we play. No wonder they chose not to come. No answer but to appoint a decent manager who can attract players Sent from my iPad using TapatalkAs already mentioned, clubs in similar circumstances like ours, usually pay a premium on top of the expected price, to ensure that they bring the players they're after. Also, most of the players have a relegation clause built in their contracts (regardless of the fact that we wouldn't be able to maintain paying their wages if we get relegated). Managers name is irrelevant in those circumstances. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 The biggest motivator for most players is money, over the top targets a few million bonus if we escape relegation, they'll soon sign up and play their heart out. Man City are offering £20m for Sanchez from Arsenal - if we offer £21m then he's ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Man City are offering £20m for Sanchez from Arsenal - if we offer £21m then he's ours obviously realistic ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 As already mentioned, clubs in similar circumstances like ours, usually pay a premium on top of the expected price, to ensure that they bring the players they're after. Also, most of the players have a relegation clause built in their contracts (regardless of the fact that we wouldn't be able to maintain paying their wages if we get relegated). Managers name is irrelevant in those circumstances. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk Well if I was a player in those circumstances I would not choose to come to a club whose manager is clearly characterless and devoid of ideas during games regarding tactics, and does not appear to be able to rouse his troops. If there was another club in a better position, with a better manager, and offering actually more money, I'd go there. Oops, just described Theo. (and all the others) Let's not go down the sentimental 'return home' nonsense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Always likely in January that you have to overpay to get good players. After a season of struggling to score goals, to not sign any attacking players last summer was an absolute cluster**** so the club only have themselves to blame. After selling VVD others clubs and agents know we are 1.) Desperate and 2.) Have money available. We also still absolutely need to replace VVD as our current CBs are not good enough. Feels very similar to the Jan window last year where we sold Fonte and then bungled replacing him. Every game that goes by without reinforcements is mismanagement IMO. We are running out of time and will likely have Shane Long up front in a massive, massive match this weekend, which is telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Always likely in January that you have to overpay to get good players. After a season of struggling to score goals, to not sign any attacking players last summer was an absolute cluster**** so the club only have themselves to blame. After selling VVD others clubs and agents know we are 1.) Desperate and 2.) Have money available. We also still absolutely need to replace VVD as our current CBs are not good enough. Feels very similar to the Jan window last year where we sold Fonte and then bungled replacing him. Every game that goes by without reinforcements is mismanagement IMO. We are running out of time and will likely have Shane Long up front in a massive, massive match this weekend, which is telling. Remember when Les promised us Fonte would be replaced then on transfer deadline day we made a loan move for Jordi Amat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Did you see his hat-trick goal? Insane. Think Long vs Villa, but better. Unbelievable strike. https://twitter.com/FTalentScout/status/950850861244342273 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Agents stalling, want more ££ and players very reluctant to join a team in real danger of relegation. Definite impact on Theo deal, which is now looking very iffy at best and AN Other, I've no name as of yet but I believe French, who has now decided against a move. I'll try to find out more before the weekend. Hope they are wrong about Theo, I'd like to see him at Saints. Shame if it's true about Walcott. Can understand why Everton are a more inviting destination given our respective league positions. Wonder if Palace result has affected negotiations as if we'd won that we'd at least to surface appearances look far healthier league wise. Paying for a couple of expensive loans may be what we are going to have to do given better players may not want to commit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 I wonder if our rumoured search for a new manager is hindering us signing new players? Bound to have. Why would you join a club that will probably change manager in a few weeks time, the next guy might think you are ****. That's why the screamingly obvious thing to do is get a new manager in a few weeks before the transfer window, asses the squad, identify targets and bring in the correct players for them. No one will want to come into a relegation threatened club, to work with a manager on the verge of being sacked in a poisonous atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 10 January, 2018 Author Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Remember when Les promised us Fonte would be replaced then on transfer deadline day we made a loan move for Jordi Amat Another player we knew was leaving for some time before he did. Strange considering we have the all singing all dancing 'black box'... it's been a while since we heard about that, thinking about it. I wonder why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Was told 3rd hand from someone at Citroen garage. Was what I said aswell Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Sounds reliable. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Well I was told today that Koeman was spotted at St Mary's so who knows Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Tell your informer to try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Unless we add 2 or 3 players to the first 11 including a striker that can score goals and an attacking midfielder that can create chances or change the manager to get a lot more out of the current squad we are going down. If Stoke appoint a decent manager like O'Neill I can't see 3 teams that are worse than us in terms of players and manager. The Watford game is a must win - but without a change of manager or a new signing or two its hard to see us winning it. And without any signs of either maybe its already too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintedwill Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Another player we knew was leaving for some time before he did. Strange considering we have the all singing all dancing 'black box'... it's been a while since we heard about that, thinking about it. I wonder why. Is there any chance that the keys to our black box was people like Paul Mitchell and Bill Green? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Would be very interested to know why we have the Limehouse hotel booked out for a week of meetings personally, normally that means transfers in coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Would be very interested to know why we have the Limehouse hotel booked out for a week of meetings personally, normally that means transfers in coming. I hope it’s managers Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Martin O’Neill watch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Would be very interested to know why we have the Limehouse hotel booked out for a week of meetings personally, normally that means transfers in coming. Cheers for the insight ericb. What week is it booked out for? This week or next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Would be very interested to know why we have the Limehouse hotel booked out for a week of meetings personally, normally that means transfers in coming. Who's heading over there on earlobe-watch? We need a lurker in a tree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 PALACE EYE BABACAR? Our Sky colleagues in Italy are reporting that Crystal Palace have made a bid for Fiorentina striker Khouma Babacar. Palace manager Roy Hodgson has made signing a striker a priority in the January window as his first choice option Christian Benteke has scored just once in 16 games. Babacar, 24, has scored four times in Serie A this season after netting 10 last year. He earned his first call-up for Senegal in March last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLondon Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 I work with Lime Wood, i'll do some digging.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 I work with Lime Wood, i'll do some digging.... Last 1 that did this sort of thing got the boot. Thanks for sacrificing yourself my lamb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 I work with Lime Wood, i'll do some digging.... You're a landscape gardener....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Is there any chance that the keys to our black box was people like Paul Mitchell and Bill Green? More likely Bill Gates, it ran on Windows XP and hasn't been updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Shame if it's true about Walcott. Can understand why Everton are a more inviting destination given our respective league positions. Would be surprised if Walcott went to Everton, being as he is/was a Liverpool fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Would be surprised if Walcott went to Everton, being as he is/was a Liverpool fan. Don’t think it matters. Lallana is an Everton fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 January, 2018 Share Posted 10 January, 2018 Would be surprised if Walcott went to Everton, being as he is/was a Liverpool fan. I'd play for Portsmouth for £110,000 a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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