Pilchards Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 I can’t remember the last time we approached another club to take their manager so that suggest it’s not an option. So who is out there if we were to replace Pellegrino? Big Sam? Frank De Boer? Someone unemployed because nobody else wants them? Not too promising if we are calling for someone’s head is it?
SKD Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 We should have taken Silva when we had the chance as many (pretty much all other than idiots like always, who couldn’t see past the fact he’d just been relegated) on here said......
DT Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Allardyce does at least know his onions and might blow the smuggery of our prima Donna tipsy tappet merchants. But yes, sadly Silva was the one who got away. Maybe it's time for Eddie howe to get a new challenge Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
skintsaint Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 I don't agree with replacing a manager after 8 league games with the club sitting 10th, but if it happened I would get Rafa and promise him some $$$ for transfers. De Boer is more the tippy tappy football with no end result like we have already and most dont like that style of football. Big Sam would at least be more direct, we will score more goals but style of football would take a turn for the worse. Could we tempt someone like Van Gaal? Probably not...
shurlock Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Have people fallen out of love with Jokanović at Fulham? German managers also come with quite a distinctive way of playing.
Dalek2003 Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 The idea of replacing the manager so early in the season would make SFC a laughing stock. This season we are likely to be in a relegation scrap. Provided we survive it and finish 17th or above, we can see it as character building. If we get relegated, we can sell off the rubbish and rebuild again. The cycle continues.
Saint_clark Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 It'd be interesting to see if the management can be proactive (as Cortese was) rather than reactive as they have been. I said yesterday that I'd take Adkins back in a heartbeat and I meant it but I know that won't happen, so instead we should take a look at managers in the Championship who are playing attacking football.
DrunkenSaint Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 should of gone for Schmidt least we would be playing attacking high intense pressing football which we all liked under poch.
Nordic Saint Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Nuno Espírito Santo. But, you know with Old Les making the decisions, it's unlikely we'll get anyone better than Puel. I said at the time people were calling for Puel to be replaced that it would only be a case of out of the fying pan into the fire,as the person making the decision would still be the same. Remember, our best manager Pochettino, was scouted and selected by Paul Mitchell and Cortese, not Ross Wilson and Reed.
ashnats Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Nuno Espírito Santo. But, you know with Old Les making the decisions, it's unlikely we'll get anyone better than Puel. I said at the time people were calling for Puel to be replaced that it would only be a case of out of the fying pan into the fire,as the person making the decision would still be the same. Remember, our best manager Pochettino, was scouted and selected by Paul Mitchell and Cortese, not Ross Wilson and Reed. we've got tough games coming up. Will having a new manager help much? worse thing we could do is scrap MP, bring in someone new, and they have to lose their first 5 games - our fans don't have that kind of patience at the moment. Better to give MP a chance. if he is able to turn it round and we come out after christmas in the top half, then things will have been going well and he deserves more time. if we lose most of the games, then get rid, bring in a new man and new players in January, and give the new guy some easier games to start with.
aintforever Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Time to stop being so soft and tap-up a manager from a smaller fish. Everyone else does it, I don't see why we should be the only club who gets their manager from the local job centre.
Pilchards Posted 16 October, 2017 Author Posted 16 October, 2017 we've got tough games coming up. Will having a new manager help much? worse thing we could do is scrap MP, bring in someone new, and they have to lose their first 5 games - our fans don't have that kind of patience at the moment. Better to give MP a chance. if he is able to turn it round and we come out after christmas in the top half, then things will have been going well and he deserves more time. if we lose most of the games, then get rid, bring in a new man and new players in January, and give the new guy some easier games to start with. IMHO The current league program is much easier than its ever been. If we had a half decent manager then I would be confident in getting results at Liverpool, Chelsea, Everton and Spurs these days. At the moment we can’t even beat the likes of Stoke, Newcastle and Huddersfield which tells me something is not right.
aintforever Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 I don't agree with replacing a manager after 8 league games with the club sitting 10th, Our current league position is meaningless, we've had the easiest run of fixtures I can remember - we still have to play Man City, Liverpool , Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal twice. Make no mistake, we are in a relegation scrap.
doddisalegend Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Our current league position is meaningless, we've had the easiest run of fixtures I can remember - we still have to play Man City, Liverpool , Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal twice. Make no mistake, we are in a relegation scrap. correct me if I'm wrong but over a season so does everyone else? Unless everyone else is going to be beating those teams losing to them isn't really an issue we couldn't beat any of them last season and we were never even close to relegation.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Nuno Espírito Santo. But, you know with Old Les making the decisions, it's unlikely we'll get anyone better than Puel. I said at the time people were calling for Puel to be replaced that it would only be a case of out of the fying pan into the fire,as the person making the decision would still be the same. Remember, our best manager Pochettino, was scouted and selected by Paul Mitchell and Cortese, not Ross Wilson and Reed. Interesting take on “best” manager . Not Lawrie , who actually won something, not Ted, not even Koeman who finished 6th & 7th ( and was chosen by Les) , but a bloke who finished 8th before ****ing off first chance he got. That’s 8th without a cup final, unlike WGS & Puel who managed the same position & a final. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Lord Duckhunter Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 (edited) I’m struggling here, perhaps one of the moaners can help me out. Puel finished 8th, but it was the shietist 8th place finish in football history. The implication being that with our squad of players, we should have finished higher or been more exciting to watch.Les Reed provided Puel with those players. Players that are better or more exciting than they showed last season. Yet they moan about Reed as well. Either Reed gave us players that were better than 8th in which case , well done , that’s pretty good on our budget. Or he gave us shiete average players, in which case well done to Puel for getting them 8th. It seems to me that people are moaning about Reed & Puel, when the facts show that one moan contradicts the other. Therefore the only logical conclusion is that they’re whinging twts , who have a strange sense of entitlement. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Edited 16 October, 2017 by Lord Duckhunter
IFHP Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 At the moment we can’t even beat the likes of Stoke, Newcastle and Huddersfield which tells me something is not right. It tells me we are **** !
Pamplemousse Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Interesting take on “best” manager . Not Lawrie , who actually won something, not Ted, not even Koeman who finished 6th & 7th ( and was chosen by Les) , but a bloke who finished 8th before ****ing off first chance he got. That’s 8th without a cup final, unlike WGS & Puel who managed the same position & a final. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk It's hard to disagree with those facts. Someone will though... blahh blahh good football etc.
aintforever Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 correct me if I'm wrong but over a season so does everyone else? Unless everyone else is going to be beating those teams losing to them isn't really an issue we couldn't beat any of them last season and we were never even close to relegation. yes but as it stands we have had an easy start so are in a false position. Just looking at the bottom three, Palace have already played Liverpool, City, Man Utd & Chelsea. Bournemouth have already played City, Arsenal and Spurs. Leicester have already played Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool. We've had one 'hard' game - Man Utd.
doddisalegend Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 yes but as it stands we have had an easy start so are in a false position. Just looking at the bottom three, Palace have already played Liverpool, City, Man Utd & Chelsea. Bournemouth have already played City, Arsenal and Spurs. Leicester have already played Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool. We've had one 'hard' game - Man Utd. and bar Palace vs Chelsea haven't they lost all those games? You're making the assumption they will win all the "easy" games to overtake us.
doddisalegend Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 IMHO The current league program is much easier than its ever been. If we had a half decent manager then I would be confident in getting results at Liverpool, Chelsea, Everton and Spurs these days. At the moment we can’t even beat the likes of Stoke, Newcastle and Huddersfield which tells me something is not right. Newcastle and Huddersfield couldn't beat us either and its hardly the first time we've been beaten by Stoke is it? Arguably our best performance this season was against Man U no doubt the likes of Bertrand, VVD and co will raise their games when auditioning for the big boys.
Saint Albert Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Newcastle and Huddersfield couldn't beat us either and its hardly the first time we've been beaten by Stoke is it? Arguably our best performance this season was against Man U no doubt the likes of Bertrand, VVD and co will raise their games when auditioning for the big boys. That is unfortunate, but probably true.
Saint_clark Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 and bar Palace vs Chelsea haven't they lost all those games? You're making the assumption they will win all the "easy" games to overtake us. We don't need Palace to overtake us for us to be in trouble, to be fair.
aintforever Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 and bar Palace vs Chelsea haven't they lost all those games? You're making the assumption they will win all the "easy" games to overtake us. I think it is a fair assumption that they and us are more likely to pick up points against the lesser teams - yes.
Saint 76er Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Trying to second guess Les here, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Eddie Howe pitch up at some stage if things don't improve. He is reputably a favorite of Les and they apparently get along well. Les has seemed reluctant to try and snatch him from a local team but Howe may now have gone about as far as he can at Boscombe and the time may be right for all parties. No idea how he would go at Saints but these last few years down the road have been quite extraordinary under Howe's leadership. Alternatively, of course, Claude Puel is currently available ....
ericb Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Trying to second guess Les here, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Eddie Howe pitch up at some stage if things don't improve. He is reputably a favorite of Les and they apparently get along well. Les has seemed reluctant to try and snatch him from a local team but Howe may now have gone about as far as he can at Boscombe and the time may be right for all parties. No idea how he would go at Saints but these last few years down the road have been quite extraordinary under Howe's leadership. Alternatively, of course, Claude Puel is currently available .... He's still a skate though
ally_uk Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Rafa for me makes sense I would approach him now! promise him some transfer funds in Jan. Get rid of Pellgrino seen enough i'm unconvinced he is the man to take us forward.
simo Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Don Carlo or Tommy T , Time for the new owner to make a statement of intent !
Professor Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Are people really serious that we should change the manager after 8 games because if that didn't make the players perform better we could finish up with 4 managers in the season.
DuncanRG Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Trying to second guess Les here, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Eddie Howe pitch up at some stage if things don't improve. He is reputably a favorite of Les and they apparently get along well. Les has seemed reluctant to try and snatch him from a local team but Howe may now have gone about as far as he can at Boscombe and the time may be right for all parties. No idea how he would go at Saints but these last few years down the road have been quite extraordinary under Howe's leadership. Alternatively, of course, Claude Puel is currently available .... We shouldn't be talking about midseason managerial changes, but if we are then Howe wouldn't dream of ditching Bournemouth in the middle of a relegation battle. If at all. Don Carlo or Tommy T , Time for the new owner to make a statement of intent ! Call that a statement of intent? Let's get Brian Clough.
aintforever Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Trying to second guess Les here, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Eddie Howe pitch up at some stage if things don't improve. He is reputably a favorite of Les and they apparently get along well. Les has seemed reluctant to try and snatch him from a local team but Howe may now have gone about as far as he can at Boscombe and the time may be right for all parties. No idea how he would go at Saints but these last few years down the road have been quite extraordinary under Howe's leadership. Alternatively, of course, Claude Puel is currently available .... Don't think Howe would come here, we've tried to get him before.
Nordic Saint Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 we've got tough games coming up. Will having a new manager help much? worse thing we could do is scrap MP, bring in someone new, and they have to lose their first 5 games - our fans don't have that kind of patience at the moment. Better to give MP a chance. if he is able to turn it round and we come out after christmas in the top half, then things will have been going well and he deserves more time. if we lose most of the games, then get rid, bring in a new man and new players in January, and give the new guy some easier games to start with. True. Puel should have been given a second season but it was Old Les's decsion to sack him, not the fans'. Some of us liked him, some didn't. Most thought that, following the sale of Mane, Pelle and Wanyama and lack of adequate replacements, he was left with a severely weakened squad so the fact that he still got us to 8th and a cup final meant he at least deserved to be here for the start of this season. So, what we think or say on here will make little difference as everything at the Club now seems to be decided by Les Reed. Anyone blaming fans' opinions expressed on here for decsions made by Les Reed must think he is incredibly easily influenced and I doubt that.
Micky Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Surely people should be posting at least two potential managers given that the first probably won't last the first ten games. Sent from my HTC One M8s using Tapatalk
Saint_clark Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Don't think Howe would come here, we've tried to get him before. I think it unlikely he'd leave for anything other than a top 6 club or the England job in all honesty. He's left for a middling team before and it didn't work out - as long as he keeps Bournemouth in the top flight playing decent football, his stock will continue to rise.
wadesmith Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 I'm not the only one to mention his name but Bostino Gruntz would be my pick. High pressing style and allegedly has little tolerance for overpaid prima donnas.
Pamplemousse Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 At some point in the future, I'd like Brendan Rodgers. I think he'd be a good fit for us.
SKD Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 At some point in the future, I'd like Brendan Rodgers. I think he'd be a good fit for us. Surprisingly I find myself agreeing with you on this one.
Fan The Flames Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 Or Barry Fry, English and would both would command respect and are technically flexible.
CB Fry Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 At some point in the future, I'd like Brendan Rodgers. I think he'd be a good fit for us.If we can survive this season, is say a decent bet for next summer. Difficult to see him doing more than two seasons at Celtic.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 I wouldn’t sack MP, but if we did I’d like Dyche to come in and kick the little darlings arses Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
DuncanRG Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 At some point in the future, I'd like Brendan Rodgers. I think he'd be a good fit for us. He'd be a great fit if the fans would take it. Not sure they would.
Saint_clark Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 He'd be a great fit if the fans would take it. Not sure they would. He'd be hounded constantly by his no ambition comments. Coming to us would mean he has no ambition surely, etc.
Dark Munster Posted 16 October, 2017 Posted 16 October, 2017 I think we should be patient, and wait for him to finish eighth and get to a cup final before sacking him.
skintsaint Posted 17 October, 2017 Posted 17 October, 2017 Our current league position is meaningless To you maybe, but the outside world dont see it as such, the media couldnt get their head around us sacking Puel after a cup final and finishing 8th. If we get rid of MP while sitting in 10th place - why would any half decent manager come here with such high expectations in a league where we are generally considered a 8th-14th placed team.
Cartman Posted 17 October, 2017 Posted 17 October, 2017 To you maybe, but the outside world dont see it as such, the media couldnt get their head around us sacking Puel after a cup final and finishing 8th. If we get rid of MP while sitting in 10th place - why would any half decent manager come here with such high expectations in a league where we are generally considered a 8th-14th placed team. It's fairly obvious who 1st-6th are. Who's 7th?
Lorne Malvo Posted 17 October, 2017 Posted 17 October, 2017 It's fairly obvious who 1st-6th are. Who's 7th? I'd hazard a guess at Everton would be the team the media expect to be top 7 even with their poor start.
benali-shorts Posted 17 October, 2017 Posted 17 October, 2017 Great hair? Check. Well-cut suit jacket? Check. Managed at mid-table euro teams? Check. Out of contract in the summer? Check. If he also wears tight trousers, I think we have our man. Paulo Fonseca
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