Forster Trending On Twitter For Being Sh!ite

[Gemmel]

https://twitter.com/search?q=Forster&src=tren

[Saint Albert]

https://twitter.com/search?q=Forster&src=tren

 

This one made me laugh...

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/piesportsbooze/status/919606941948801026

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Feel sorry for him. But that's no reason to keep him. Put ourselves in a tough position believing all the England hype and offering that contract. His weaknesses have never changed from day 1. McCarthy is rubbish too but just can't see us investing there.

 

No idea why people are waiting for better form. Ok, he can play better than this, but low shots will always trouble him and he's never been good at coming for crosses. Ridiculous with his height.

 

He has his issues but can be very good. I would imagine he is also very good to have in the dressing room.

[Pamplemousse]

He's not going to Russia, unless there are injuries.

[Roo1976]

He's not going to Russia, unless there are injuries.

 

Hart ,Butland and Pickford.

[Saint_clark]

Hart ,Butland and Pickford.

 

I think Heaton will go instead of Pickford, Pickford seems to be letting the pressure of a big money move get to him a bit.

[James]

I think Heaton will go instead of Pickford, Pickford seems to be letting the pressure of a big money move get to him a bit.

 

Possibly, but he is still significantly better than Forster.

[Saint in Paradise]

He has his issues but can be very good. I would imagine he is also very good to have in the dressing room.

 

 

 

Big snag to that is that the match is not actually played in the dressing room but on something called a pitch.

 

Also any player can be good once or twice a season but Saints need players who are good/excellent at least 90%

of the time.

 

( Sorry )

[jasoneuelllfanclub]

Who ever is responsible for gong him new 5 year contract 1 year after signing the last one needs sacking. We are basically rewarding him for being mediocre. That doesn't send out a great message and could become a problem later down the line with other players.

 

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[Disco Stu]

Heaton is England's best goalkeeper without a doubt. All the others are either ****e, lack experience or both.

[Monk]

Heaton is England's best goalkeeper without a doubt. All the others are either ****e, lack experience or both.

 

Not having that mate. Butland, Pickford, Woodman plus a plethora of young GK’s in the youth set up.

 

Agree with the Heaton post.

[larry12]

Who ever is responsible for gong him new 5 year contract 1 year after signing the last one needs sacking. We are basically rewarding him for being mediocre. That doesn't send out a great message and could become a problem later down the line with other players.

 

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Les Reed, Les Reed, Les Reed , Les Reed, Les Reed , Les Reed, Les Reed, Les Reed. Clue there enough for you??????????????????????????????????? Why the hell can't you name him? You know perfectly well who it was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[a1ex2001]

Who ever is responsible for gong him new 5 year contract 1 year after signing the last one needs sacking. We are basically rewarding him for being mediocre. That doesn't send out a great message and could become a problem later down the line with other players.

 

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He was very very good in his first season thats why he got the new contract! I don't remember many people calling for his head and saying he was rubbish back then sadly he has taken a bit of a tumble since then, hopefully an up turn in form will follow.

[OldNick]

I feel sorry for him, he must feel pretty low. I know some on here will say 'well he earns 100k a week' etc etc , but it is not nice for your own to turn on you.

You only have to see the same people who are tasking the rise, get all precious if somebody makes them look foolish on a anonymous forum lol.

I don't look at Forster as the main problem, it is the goal keeping coach. He has a goalkeeper that is from the Land of the Giants that seems that wouldn't want to go up on his toes to pick an apple from a tree. Elliott yesterday came and collected a few crosses, Watson should be working on having Forster really dominating his area. Going out to punch or catch the ball. Add to that he is always too close to his line when a shot comes in.

I believe that he needs to be rested for a couple of games and let them work on his goalkeeping skills. Then bring him back

[Window Cleaner]

Has he really gained the same level that he had before the major injury? I don't really remember, some players don't you know.

Look at JRod, he'll not be the same player again.

[jasoneuelllfanclub]

He was very very good in his first season thats why he got the new contract! I don't remember many people calling for his head and saying he was rubbish back then sadly he has taken a bit of a tumble since then, hopefully an up turn in form will follow.

Forster has had two contract extensions. Summer 2016 and summer 2017. He signed in summer 2014. Arguably he's been crap since signing first contract extension.

 

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[max_saints]

He just looks so sluggish getting back on his feet after making the first save. I thought keepers often train going to ground and getting back up immediately. Every time he makes a save and the ball falls to the opposition, it’s a goal if the shot is on target.

[rooney]

He just looks so sluggish getting back on his feet after making the first save. I thought keepers often train going to ground and getting back up immediately. Every time he makes a save and the ball falls to the opposition, it’s a goal if the shot is on target.

Especially if it is outside the penalty Area.

[Disco Stu]

Not having that mate. Butland, Pickford, Woodman plus a plethora of young GK’s in the youth set up.

 

Agree with the Heaton post.

 

Great goalkeepers. Lack the experience to represent country at world cup level IMO. Qualities such as leadership, organising the defense and dealing with pressure are not things most young goalkeepers possess. Heaton is just the best all-rounder.

Edited 16 October, 2017 by Disco Stu

[Bridge]

I have just watched the hi-lights and I am totally convinced we have a complete clown in goal for saints...My god Forster is one hell of a clumsy oaf. He doesn't look like a goalie with any qualities whatsoever.

[OttawaSaint]

Yeah he's had his problems in nets but does it warrant a load of self-appointed "funny" men and internet warriors trashing him online. He's the best we've got right now so let's get behind him and give him some encouragement.

[The9]

Yeah he's had his problems in nets but does it warrant a load of self-appointed "funny" men and internet warriors trashing him online. He's the best we've got right now so let's get behind him and give him some encouragement.

 

Arguably he's the second best.

[OttawaSaint]

Arguably he's the second best.

 

That's a matter of opinion I guess. I'm not sold on McCarthy yet.

[Saint in Paradise]

In the years before substitutes were thought of if a goalkeeper got injured they sometimes swapped position

with an outfield player. Also in the past some players have permanently changed positions during their career.

 

So how about trying FF as a striker then as he surely can't be as bad as some on here think Saints normal strikers are?

[Charlie Wayman]

https://twitter.com/search?q=Forster&src=tren

 

As a Saints supporter why are you so pleased about this that you want to give it even more air on here boy starting thread. Weird and Pathetic!

[austsaint]

He has his issues but can be very good. I would imagine he is also very good to have in the dressing room.

 

The same used to be said about Kelvin - and his gaffs and shortcomings were ignored for far too long.

[The9]

That's a matter of opinion I guess. I'm not sold on McCarthy yet.

 

I'd be interested to see what he'd do for the first team, McCarthy had decent save stats the last time he had a run in a first team. I'd be interested to see how many shots on goal Saints are allowing compared to the past 4 seasons to see if the defensive problem is as obvious as it looks or whether we're just allowing a lot more efforts.

 

Unfortunately I cba to check, because I've basically completely disengaged from this season so far (1/3 aways, 4/6 homes) and am putting more effort into watching a relatively successful side playing hoofball in League Two (3/11 aways, 1/5 homes).

 

[rant]We've gone from mostly attacking, pacy, creative and terrible at finishing last season with occasional bouts of lethargy, to uncreative, jaded, negative and terrible at finishing in this. Literally couldn't believe the article on the OS last week suggesting the players were struggling to adapt to a new system, when to all intents and purposes they're doing exactly the same thing as the lowest points of last season, but with sporadic spells of playing a DM massively out of position behind the striker for no apparent reason. We're predictable and pathetically easy to defend against at the moment.

 

Couple of tweaks this weekend but still tedious nevertheless - I don't mind us being defensive if we look like we might score at some point but the balance is completely off right now. As with last season, I don't think the manager has much to do with it, but Watford game aside they sure as hell can't point to a hectic schedule as a reason.[end rant]

[captainchris]

He just looks so sluggish getting back on his feet after making the first save. I thought keepers often train going to ground and getting back up immediately. Every time he makes a save and the ball falls to the opposition, it’s a goal if the shot is on target.

 

That post made me smile.... That’s only IF he makes a save which isn’t that often....

[DT]

He is appalling. Shift him out. No excuses.

[Tom & Gerry]

He has a confidence problem which our so called supporters seem keen to exploit.

[simo]

Hopefully Lewis keeps improving as he is at Dundee United and is ready to step in next season!

[Crab Lungs]

Heaton is England's best goalkeeper without a doubt. All the others are either ****e, lack experience or both.

 

Pretty much said that for about 4 years. Got laughed off this board. How times change.

[Crab Lungs]

Has he really gained the same level that he had before the major injury? I don't really remember, some players don't you know.

Look at JRod, he'll not be the same player again.

 

He's always been sh1te. Just been well protected for years

[tajjuk]

He's just in bad form and lacking confidence. He is not a bad player at all and as usual some of the reactions on here are retarded.

 

Also more and more I have decided twitter is just complete cancer.

[Kingsbridge Saint]

Maybe the club could contract in a new specialist goalkeeping coach, just for that position, to work with him. It does seem that he has gone downhill over the last year or two, whilst that issue has been neglected.

[Wade Garrett]

Coaching is a problem. They all get taught the 'starfish' method that leads to so many getting done with the ball going under them or through their legs. Back in the day, letting one in through your legs, or at your near post, was a cardinal sin. We were taught to make yourselves big and position yourself properly.

You never used to see keepers like Shilton, Clemence, Niemi, Seaman, Corrigan etc. Letting in the amount of soft goals that are conceded these days. Before anyone mentions the ball, I'm not talking about 20 yard screamers. They used to make themselves big, stay on their feet for as long as possible, and get their angles right. The ball would often be saved by the body, legs in particular. With crosses, they would arc their approach, so they were moving forward when trying to get the ball at it's heighest point. Nowadays, they get caught under the ball far too easily.

Forster is struggling at the moment, and there is a pattern to his mistakes. But his coaching, in my opinion, is crap. His 'modern' technique is crap.

Goalkeeper coaching has gone too continental. 30-40 years ago, we often had 3 keepers in the top 20 in the world. We used to laugh at foreign keepers who punched everything. Now we coach our own like it. Ridiculous.

 

Rant over.

[Gingeletiss]

In the years before substitutes were thought of if a goalkeeper got injured they sometimes swapped position

with an outfield player. Also in the past some players have permanently changed positions during their career.

 

So how about trying FF as a striker then as he surely can't be as bad as some on here think Saints normal strikers are?

 

I thought that was how he started out, early in his career.

[benjii]

Coaching is a problem. They all get taught the 'starfish' method that leads to so many getting done with the ball going under them or through their legs. Back in the day, letting one in through your legs, or at your near post, was a cardinal sin. We were taught to make yourselves big and position yourself properly.

You never used to see keepers like Shilton, Clemence, Niemi, Seaman, Corrigan etc. Letting in the amount of soft goals that are conceded these days. Before anyone mentions the ball, I'm not talking about 20 yard screamers. They used to make themselves big, stay on their feet for as long as possible, and get their angles right. The ball would often be saved by the body, legs in particular. With crosses, they would arc their approach, so they were moving forward when trying to get the ball at it's heighest point. Nowadays, they get caught under the ball far too easily.

Forster is struggling at the moment, and there is a pattern to his mistakes. But his coaching, in my opinion, is crap. His 'modern' technique is crap.

Goalkeeper coaching has gone too continental. 30-40 years ago, we often had 3 keepers in the top 20 in the world. We used to laugh at foreign keepers who punched everything. Now we coach our own like it. Ridiculous.

 

Rant over.

 

Shilton, Italia 90 semi final. Absolute gash.

 

The idea that we are in some post-halcyon age of poor goalkeeping is idiotic. And that "starfish" method works brilliantly for the best keepers. Look at the save de Gea made on Saturday at Anfield.

 

There is no need to over analyze coaching methods. Forster is simply quite slow. You can improve natural speed a bit with some marginal gains but you can't coach him to be fast.

[skintsaint]

Shilton, Italia 90 semi final. Absolute gash.

 

The guy was in his 40s! The 3rd place play off he was even worse!

[Wurzel]

Can someone remind me of the significance of his preference for the #44 ?

[Lord Duckhunter]

Goal keepers are far far better than they ever were in the “ golden period” . Peter Schmeichel turned the dial imo , it’s no surprise his star fish style is now the norm, because he raised the bar and personally I think he’s the best that’s ever played in England . Of course with modern coaching, lifestyles, pitches & rules Banks, Shilts & others from those past eras would also be brilliant today, although they may struggle size wise. Keepers have never been coached better, FF maybe poorly coached ( I wouldn’t know either way) but poorly coached in the modern game by a specialist, is head & shoulders above the coaching from past eras. The one area keepers are clearly poorer ( and it applies to most modern players of any position) is leadership, organisation, talking to the back 4. And unfortunately Forster is woeful at this as well.

 

To me, he’s an average keeper in a poor run of form. He wasn’t particularly good even during his purple patch after his return from injury. He’s flat footed, quiet and doesn’t come for anywhere near enough crosses. That’s not poor coaching, that’s just the way he is. I’m not sure those skills can be coached

 

 

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Edited 18 October, 2017 by Lord Duckhunter

[Lallana's Left Peg]

Can someone remind me of the significance of his preference for the #44 ?

 

Shot to save ratio.

[the saint in winchester]

Maybe the club could contract in a new specialist goalkeeping coach, just for that position, to work with him. It does seem that he has gone downhill over the last year or two, whilst that issue has been neglected.

 

That does seem the logical solution. We can't bin off a player on a whim who has a temporary issue. Surely KD can coach him? Or find someone who can. If he needs emotional support, confidence counselling etc, get him that. We appear (to us fans) to be doing nothing and just hoping things will improve. Let's do all we can now, although I am as guilty as others, getting interested in "Adrian (W Ham) wants a move" and wondering if we can get Boruc back. But first, we need to do all we can for FF.

[Wade Garrett]

Forster is a poorly coached average keeper.

 

Benji, Shilton was 40 at Italia 90 and was arguably the keeper of the tournament. The goal he conceded in the semi-final had so much top spin on it, making it nigh on impossible to save. And Germany, generally, don't miss penalties.

 

Lord Duckhunter, I strongly disagree with the merits of the 'starfish'. I also think modern coaching has taken goalkeeping backwards.

[benjii]

Nigh on impossible to save .

[benjii]

[video=youtube_share;hH_Yt0K3tZA]

[benjii]

That's a **** video to make my point. Sorry!

[davefoggy]

I have just watched the hi-lights and I am totally convinced we have a complete clown in goal for saints...My god Forster is one hell of a clumsy oaf. He doesn't look like a goalie with any qualities whatsoever.

 

He needs a spell out of the first team now, I just can't see any way the he can possibly be picked after the woeful performance against Newcastle

[The9]

Can someone remind me of the significance of his preference for the #44 ?

 

He wore 23 for Saints to begin with, was happy with that until his injury, chose 44 presumably for something like "For-Forster", and was decent, went to 1 when Kelvin retired, was not so good and has now returned to his "lucky" 44.

 

Tbf I think he is significantly worse at getting to low shots than he was before his injury, and equally as good at putting his 6'8" frame in the way of things straight at him as he's ever been.

[The9]

Nigh on impossible to save .

 

Yeah, quite the lol - any other keeper at that tournament would have taken a step back and just caught it. They may also have dived before all the penalties faced hit the back of the net, too.

 

All that ignores the point that keeping is a very different skill nowadays, and yes, it's down to the ball, speed of flight and the various materials used, and partially the speed of the game.