davefoggy Posted 27 February, 2018 Share Posted 27 February, 2018 There's more chance of both Pardew & Alladyce being sacked than our clown getting the axe. 2 wins in 19 league games folks for those who still want to defend him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 27 February, 2018 Share Posted 27 February, 2018 There's more chance of both Pardew & Alladyce being sacked than our clown getting the axe. 2 wins in 19 league games folks for those who still want to defend him We basically set up for a draw from the beginning under our joke of a manager aiming for a nill nill, but remember "a draw is as good as a win" according to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gphutchings Posted 27 February, 2018 Share Posted 27 February, 2018 There's more chance of both Pardew & Alladyce being sacked than our clown getting the axe. 2 wins in 19 league games folks for those who still want to defend himThere is no plausible way to defend that record and I'm starting to think anyone who does has some affiliation with the club (on the payroll). I genuinely can't think of any other reason? I've not met anyone in person who wants him to stay? Pretty much any available options are an upgrade. Eriksen, Ince, Monk, Silva, Sol Campbell, Hiddink, Sherwood, Jaidi, Ted Bates, Howard the Duck, literally anyone. All more likely to keep us up than Muppet boy. Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 February, 2018 Share Posted 27 February, 2018 I think he’s probably dithered, there is no way of proving either way though of course - all we all do is speculate. If he was thinking of sacking him, the papers would be full of “2 games to save his job” type of thing, or linking us with other names. There’s pretty much been nothing, which makes me come to the conclusion they’re steadfastly backing him. What is your rationale behind the belief Reed is dithering, apart from you don’t rate him. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 February, 2018 Share Posted 27 February, 2018 If he was thinking of sacking him, the papers would be full of “2 games to save his job” type of thing, or linking us with other names. There’s pretty much been nothing, which makes me come to the conclusion they’re steadfastly backing him. What is your rationale behind the belief Reed is dithering, apart from you don’t rate him. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk There has been bits in the papers, plus some ITK on here reckoned they were looking for a new manager over a month an ago. It is of course just speculation though, just like your theory of him not dithering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 28 February, 2018 Share Posted 28 February, 2018 (edited) Only managers on the scrap heap would be interested in the Saints job at this stage of the season. Thank's to Les' dithering we are left with a choice of two massive gambles - Stick with Pelligrino or take a punt on someone with a sh!t CV who has nothing to lose. Replacement options have been slim all year to be fair. Look at those who have been brought in - Allardyce, Pardew, Moyes, Hodgson, and Lambert, five bang average British managers who come with a lot of baggage and none of whom have been that successful and this place would have gone into meltdown if appointed. Javi Garcia, who was managing Ruben Kazan pretty averagely last year, Puel, who we'd already sacked, Carvahal, who IMO is one of the better appointments because he'd done a decent job with Sheff Wed and had terrible luck with injuries when he got sacked. The other options really being Silva, who has had his reputation burned a little with his falling out with Watford over wanting to leave and then the rpaid decline in Watford's form, or taking a risk on someone from the Championship, trying to prise someone like Howe or Dyche away from their clubs or some other left field European appointment. Slim pickings. Even if we stay up and then sack him, I have no idea who we are going to get in the summer because no hot prospect European coach is going to come to us. Edited 28 February, 2018 by tajjuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 February, 2018 Share Posted 28 February, 2018 (edited) Even if we stay up and then sack him, I have no idea who we are going to get in the summer because no hot prospect European coach is going to come to us. Why not? The Premier League is a very attractive pull for managers, Saints have a good but mismanaged squad, a very healthy wage & transfer budget in European football terms and can offer any manager a large wage. Edited 28 February, 2018 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 March, 2018 Author Share Posted 3 March, 2018 Another fine display today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 Which option would you choose? 1: stay up and keep Pellegrino 2: go down and Pellegrino is sacked I have got to that point I don’t know which option would be best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 Never really wanted a manager to go before... Maybe Gray after that start but this is worse!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 Sack him now and put Kelvin in charge until the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 Which option would you choose? 1: stay up and keep Pellegrino 2: go down and Pellegrino is sacked I have got to that point I don’t know which option would be best. Those aren't the only options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 Worse than Branfoot imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 I despise the ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 Worse than Branfoot imo. Yes the facts indicate that. Branfoot win % = 28.91 Pellegrino = 25% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 How the **** is he still in charge? Genuinely perplexed at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 Considering the resources we have, where we were when he took over and the league we are in I can’t see any argument against him being our worst ever manager. He is certainly the worst in my lifetime supporting Saints. Our refusal to sack him is utterly insane but I’m sort of resigned to him staying now and taking us down. It now seems almost wilful inaction by the board. We deserve to go down really. Our smug, arrogant board have let the fans down big time, they should truly be ashamed of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 March, 2018 Author Share Posted 3 March, 2018 Imagine if he remains our manager in the championship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 Imagine if he remains our manager in the championship! I’m planning to renew my season ticket in any circumstance but if that happened it would be seriously hard to continue going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 Please fck just sack the coward now. I really want to at least have some premier league games left to attack, have some hope in. Not the abject predictability of more draws and losses and bewildering selections. Never wanted a manager gone so much in my life. THIS. We have given him a fair crack and it’s just not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 Worse than Branfoot imo. I don't think there's even a debate about that. That's how bad this w@nker is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 I think Pell is as surprised as us he's still employed. Probably laughs about it Literally any other premier league club and he'd have gone months ago. Muppets running the club, makes sense we'd have a Muppet manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 We’re stuck with him until the end of the season. Les is sticking to his guns. The window of opportunity closed a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 I stayed behind to have a word with Pellegrino afterwards and I was surprised to see him in tears. I asked him why and his reply was. What do I need to do for the sack? I put my mate up front who is crap, Tradic and Redmond so we dont win games but Reed still won’t sack me for a good pay off. Then he walked off!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 How astute was Benjamin Franklin when he famously predicted "In life, only 2 things are certain; death, and relegation under Pellegrino". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 Not convinced that's true. Maybe they've just been that complacent and thought it would turn around. While I'd hate to get hope up, with this squad, a decent manager could still keep us up. It's 99.9% too late. I still think that a competent manager could keep us up. I just don’t think that Les will pull the trigger. It’s very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 I still think that a competent manager could keep us up. I just don’t think that Les will pull the trigger. It’s very frustrating. I find it equally staggering that Gao, or Ralph, don't pull the trigger on Les. But I know it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 They should do a social media competition - win a chance to be the manager. I mean, surely that's how this guy got in the job? He's a fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 3 March, 2018 Share Posted 3 March, 2018 If you don't laugh, you'd cry. Clean slate next season and try to build up some positivity about the place for our Championship promotion push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 He's still, still here then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 Managers live and die by their results...it's a simple equation. We've won a single league game in the last 15 and our home form is worse than our relegation season. All the teams above us have won at least 2 more games than us. Truly staggering that he's still here, should've been put out of his misery a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 Im not even convinced that if we just stay up that they will sack him in the summer - I think they will give him a chance into next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 So the rumours at the time were that he was gone if we didn't beat WBA. I wonder what position we would be in now if we failed to win that and he got the boot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 So the rumours at the time were that he was gone if we didn't beat WBA. I wonder what position we would be in now if we failed to win that and he got the boot...Undoubtedly better. Its why I had some sympathy with those wanting a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 Surely, SURELY the club have an alternative manager lined up for the summer should we stay up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 Im not even convinced that if we just stay up that they will sack him in the summer - I think they will give him a chance into next season I think you’re right. If I was a betting man I’d say he’d stay. I’m not even totally convinced he’d be gone if we went down. 80/20 for him going, but not 100% convinced Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 How can they stand by and see a 0-0 vs Stoke, look at the league table, look at the fixtures and not want to take action. Will it be after we lose 3-0 to City on the final day and then churn out “we were only 4 goals from safety”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 It's hard to fathom how the same people overseeing the club in its most boring, negative state were there when were playing some of the best football I suspect we've played as a club......and are ok with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 The question was, “where are the points going to come from” a few weeks ago, now it’s “where/who are the goals going to come from”. When was the last time we got a penalty? Seem to have had very few, West Ham game aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 So the rumours at the time were that he was gone if we didn't beat WBA. I wonder what position we would be in now if we failed to win that and he got the boot... If we ended up losing the WBA away game, I’m sure the club would have come up with a reason not to fire him. They would have pointed to the team playing better, training well, and the players liking Pellegrino. If these excuses seemed unreasonable, they could have blamed it on the negative impact of the VVD situation on squad cohesiveness again. In other words it would have been more of the same. We’re stuck with him. If we scrape a few wins in the run in and somehow survive relegation, I can see the club pointing to those wins as a sign of improvement and sticking with him for next season as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 Gao must be some sort of thick idiot to idly stand by and do nothing while his club struggles for no good reason. Les, Kat and Ralph are obviously pulling his chain and he's falling for it hook, line and sinker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 Gao must be some sort of thick idiot to idly stand by and do nothing while his club struggles for no good reason. Les, Kat and Ralph are obviously pulling his chain and he's falling for it hook, line and sinker. His whole takeover is very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 Im not even convinced that if we just stay up that they will sack him in the summer - I think they will give him a chance into next season They might wonder why the season ticket sales fall through the floor if that’s the case. Not sure I can stand another season of this ****. After 40 years of holding a season ticket this clown may have killed my enthusiasm stone dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 How about the season ticket holders writing/emailing Les/Ralph and telling them that they won't renew unless the clown is sacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 He’s so bad it’s now actually laughable. What reason could there be for keeping him? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 So if we win the Fa cup and get relegated do we sack him or not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 We’re one game from Wembley but I’m lesss confident about us winning the cup than I was in August. We’ve had a host of lucky draws and will get thoroughly dicked by the first decent side we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 So if we win the Fa cup and get relegated do we sack him or not ? That's like saying if you give lots of money to charity but you murdered someone, should you still go to prison. If Pellegrino avoided relegation AND won the Cup, then flew over Pompey the next day and napalmed the place, I'd still want him sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 Gao must be some sort of thick idiot to idly stand by and do nothing while his club struggles for no good reason. Les, Kat and Ralph are obviously pulling his chain and he's falling for it hook, line and sinker. Or maybe the other way round. i am sure sacking the manager would require approval from the board, and i am sure gao has some input in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 4 March, 2018 Share Posted 4 March, 2018 That's like saying if you give lots of money to charity but you murdered someone, should you still go to prison . Yeah, great analogy. Getting relegated is just like that, us supporters will feel just like victims families when we go down. We won’t win the cup, but to do so we’ll probably have to beat 2 of the top 5. If he does that and delivers the second major trophy in our history I hope our supporters will show more class than you’re clearly going to. I bet you wanted Lawrie out in ‘76 for failing to get us promoted Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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