Matthew Le God Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 He's right though. Most of them are quite cowardly and not up for the fight. It is Pellegrino's job to motivate them... something he is failing spectacularly to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 I’m done. Sick of this clown and the board’s lack of balls. Not watching saints again until he’s gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 In an ideal world I wouldn't particularly want Mark Hughes either. But I'd feel a lot more confident for the rest of the season with Hughes in charge... than Pellegrino. Hughes does not inspire me at all. He may be better than Pellegrino, though. Not that it’s much of an achievement. Silva is a better option, even if only for the remainder of the season. We’ll do well, probably survive relegation and he’ll market himself to bigger teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 It is Pellegrino's job to motivate them... something he is failing spectacularly to do! I agree, to an extent, but I hardly think the manager told them to just give up like that. The second goal went in and that was it as far as they were concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 As I posted in the post match thread... Well I'm now convinced he has to go. There is definitely a decent style of play in there somewhere for pellegrino - but every time it starts to shine through this season he completely ****s it up by reverting to the safe and defensive style. Sent from my SM-J330FN using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Hughes does not inspire me at all. He may be better than Pellegrino, though. Not that it’s much of an achievement. Silva is a better option, even if only for the remainder of the season. We’ll do well, probably survive relegation and he’ll market himself to bigger teams. Hughes / Bilic / Silva would ALL do a better job than MP. I'm convinced of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 I agree, to an extent, but I hardly think the manager told them to just give up like that. The second goal went in and that was it as far as they were concerned. So at half time you get the hairdryer out and send them out for the second half like the hounds of hell are after them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 I agree, to an extent, but I hardly think the manager told them to just give up like that. The second goal went in and that was it as far as they were concerned.Why remove your one threat JWP ? Can you explain why Tadic stayed on for 90 minutes? Carillo had no-one within 20 yards of him why? That is a managers tactics. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 I agree, to an extent, but I hardly think the manager told them to just give up like that. The second goal went in and that was it as far as they were concerned.Yes but we can't change the players now, we can change the manager. We need a manager that can motivate the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Why remove your one threat JWP ? Can you explain why Tadic stayed on for 90 minutes? Carillo had no-one within 20 yards of him why? That is a managers tactics. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Agree with all of this. Felt sorry for Carrillo today, always had two oppostion players around him with little support. JWP should never have been taken off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 I hate Hughes but he had Stoke 9th 3 years running. He would also know whats needed when relegated to get us back up. MOPE should have gone after Leicester Reed Wilson Kruegar doing whats best for them not club. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 https://www.change.org/p/sfc-board-pellegrino-out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Yes but we can't change the players now, we can change the manager. We need a manager that can motivate the players. I agree. I just don't think all of the blame should be put at Pellegrino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Why remove your one threat JWP ? Can you explain why Tadic stayed on for 90 minutes? Carillo had no-one within 20 yards of him why? That is a managers tactics. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk With Carilllo I find it hard to really criticise him, as it's like we've bought a lamp shade without the bulb. We got it half right, but he needed pace and life around him to be effective. Thus we didn't, so he will look like a bit of an oaf. Congratulations to the recruitment morons. I could have done a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 MOPE should have gone after Leicester Reed Wilson Kruegar doing whats best for them not club. Why is not sacking Pellegrino "doing whats best for them"? If Saints are relegated then those three would take a hit financially and it might even cost them their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Why is not sacking Pellegrino "doing whats best for them"? If Saints are relegated then those three would take a hit financially and it might even cost them their jobs. I doubt they'll give a ****, they've earned a nice enough pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Why is not sacking Pellegrino "doing whats best for them"? If Saints are relegated then those three would take a hit financially and it might even cost them their jobs. Face saving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Face saving If Saints are relegated then it isn't face saving, face saving would be to realise Pellegrino is costing us big time and sack him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 With Carilllo I find it hard to really criticise him, as it's like we've bought a lamp shade without the bulb. We got it half right, but he needed pace and life around him to be effective. Thus we didn't, so he will look like a bit of an oaf. Congratulations to the recruitment morons. I could have done a better job. Still very early days, but he offered very little, didn't win much in the air, hold the ball up or link play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Do you really think that losing 2 nil to Liverpool is going to be the final nail in his coffin? Don't really add up does it when he's survived 1-4 against Leicester and 1-2 against Palace. They are actively going out of their way not to sack him so today ain't going to do it. Yes. It’s not the result, it’s the performance. Puel ended up 8th and a Wembley trip, but it was the turgid manner that did for him. We have a window before the next League game and a free hit of a cup game to get a new manager in. So yes, if there was ever a time to push the button - it’s now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 I agree. I just don't think all of the blame should be put at Pellegrino.I'm happy for all the blame to go to him now if it gets him the sack. It's beyond desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 The team isn't great but he's not getting the best out of them and he just cannot impact a game positively for us with a substitution which renders the subs bench absolutely useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Still very early days, but he offered very little, didn't win much in the air, hold the ball up or link play I didn't think he was every going to against today. We know how good VvD is in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 We don't want another failed managerKoeman Strachan Hoddle Pochettino Puel Pardew Ball all failed managers. Heaven forbid we should lower ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 February, 2018 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Koeman Strachan Hoddle Pochettino Puel Pardew Ball all failed managers. Heaven forbid we should lower ourselves.Hughes is not my cuppa but he has good prem pedigree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Anyone would be better, let's not kid ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 (edited) If Saints are relegated then it isn't face saving, face saving would be to realise Pellegrino is costing us big time and sack him! I don't disagree but Les and Ralph have painted themselves into a corner. They either sack him and admit he was an awful appointment or don't and we get relegated. Their arrogance suggests they will risk sticking with the idiot. Edited 11 February, 2018 by Katalinic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Hughes is not my cuppa but he has good prem dedigreeExactly. He will need less of a bedding in period. I have a feeling that with a bit of fire and organisation we would see a huge improvement. We have a weaker squad than previous years but also a hugely weaker manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 February, 2018 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Exactly. He will need less of a bedding in period. I have a feeling that with a bit of fire and organisation we would see a huge improvement. We have a weaker squad than previous years but also a hugely weaker manager.only a whopper would rather keep Pellegrino over Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 As I posted in the post match thread... Well I'm now convinced he has to go. There is definitely a decent style of play in there somewhere for pellegrino - but every time it starts to shine through this season he completely ****s it up by reverting to the safe and defensive style. Sent from my SM-J330FN using Tapatalk There isn't 'definitely a decent style of play in there somewhere for Pellegrino' or if there is the **** has taken far far too long to find out where it is. No excuses, he is a **** poor manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Hughes is not my cuppa but he has good prem pedigree What, getting QPR relegated and nearly leading Stoke down too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 What, getting QPR relegated and nearly leading Stoke down too? He's still better than Pellegrino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Approach Ancelotti/Van Gaal/Another big name. Offer them 3 million upfront to manage us until the end of the season. Another 7 million if they keep us up. No thought of any longer term commitment. Cup run not important. Sell it as a chance to scout the league if they decide to return with a bigger team next season. Lift the fans, players and profile of the club. Show them we are a team to be noticed once again. Wash away the negativity in one stroke and put us back on a positive trajectory. Make the fans the 12th man, while the board can focus immediately on identifying a long term manager to be appointed in the summer. The Big name manager here at present won't have to worry about his future, any transfers, or pressure from fans, as he merely has to coach the player, backed by an enormous bank of goodwill from the supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 February, 2018 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2018 What, getting QPR relegated and nearly leading Stoke down too?miles better than Pellegrino. Miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 He can **** off and take most of the useless ****ing ****s masquerading as professional footballers with him. We need a new manager and a major squad overhaul to many ****e transfer windows have killed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 miles better than Pellegrino. Miles He’s terrible manager. Why’s he the only option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 February, 2018 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2018 He’s terrible manager. Why’s he the only option?silva would be my first choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 He’s terrible manager. Why’s he the only option? Who do you suggest then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Who do you suggest then? Strachan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 He can **** off and take most of the useless ****ing ****s masquerading as professional footballers with him. We need a new manager and a major squad overhaul to many ****e transfer windows have killed us. Come on Doddy, don't let it get to you. It's only football and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Just don't know what is keeping him in the job. Players no longer playing for him based on his interview. Surely he will be gone by next weekend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Strachan? Roger, he's not a serious long term option is he but tbh I'm prepared to accept anyone atm who isn't Manuel Pellegrino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Come on Doddy, don't let it get to you. It's only football and all that. I'll be fine in 24hrs got to get through tomorrow morning with Liverpool plastics at work first though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Maybe O’Neil and Keane fancy having a go till the end of this season. If I am right Ireland aren’t going to the World Cup. Imagine the players putting in a performance like this afternoon and then having to go and face Roy Keane in the dressing room. Would like to see Peter Bosz or Louis van Gaal lift the players and make this squad a team again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 I don't get this "failed manager" prejudice because virtually every manager will "fail" at some point. The issue is selecting a manager who has failed several times!! I've said it before on another thread a few weeks ago but I would get Strachan in for the remainder of the season. Certainly would not get Hughes, not because he is a failure but because he has little charisma to lift every one. You could argue Keegan would lift everyone but too long out of the game of course but its that type of manager we need for the last 11 games, but actually the next 5 are the key ones. Pray for the Impact a new man "usually gives. Having said I would prefer Strachan, when he came first time we did not get the lift immediately!!! Stick or Twist on 14 Reed........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 He can **** off and take most of the useless ****ing ****s masquerading as professional footballers with him. We need a new manager and a major squad overhaul to many ****e transfer windows have killed us. I'll maintain the quality of the squad isn't the problem. Burnley are 7th, how many of their players would you want in our squad? I think Southampton's is superior man for man in terms of individual quality... the difference is our manager isn't any good & it is costing us... big time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 I'll be fine in 24hrs got to get through tomorrow morning with Liverpool plastics at work first though... Fair play. We CAN still get out of this (though I'm struggling to see how with popeye in charge). Keep the faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Think we’ve left it too late to change manager now, just have to hope Pellegrino can somehow get us enough points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Think we’ve left it too late to change manager now, just have to hope Pellegrino can somehow get us enough points. Don’t confuse “we should have done it earlier” with “we’ve left it too late”. This **** offers us nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 11 February, 2018 Share Posted 11 February, 2018 Absolute criminal that he is still in a job. I actually think the powers to be want us to gown. A massive asset strip will follow Gao will get original investment back. Reed will pocket a bonus and get a further Liverpool bonus by selling them Boufal.... Club is a joke how can you justify having this title of a manager still here? Grow some swedes admit he is out of depth and get rid.... The players and fans have lost interest in this snooze fest..... Quincy Promes signing in the summer? Do me a favour you really think he is going to swap European footy for championship footy..... Fans need to down tools and stop attending games. Time to unite and get this manager and board gone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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