miserableoldgit Posted 12 November, 2017 Share Posted 12 November, 2017 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4897349/fernando-torres-premier-league-return-newcastle-southampton/amp/ Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 12 November, 2017 Share Posted 12 November, 2017 Rodgers was an absolute disrespectful c*nt to us when he signed Lallana and Lovren. I wouldn't want that pearly-toothed pr*ck anywhere near our club. If he was world class I'd turn a blind eye to all of that. But he's not, so I wholeheartedly agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 12 November, 2017 Share Posted 12 November, 2017 Rodgers was an absolute disrespectful c*nt to us when he signed Lallana and Lovren. I wouldn't want that pearly-toothed pr*ck anywhere near our club. He said we had lost our ambition? He was right!! Not sure how thats disrespect? That summer we sold 5 first team players and replaced them with cheaper alternatives. It kinda worked for us temporarily, but that doesn't change the fact that he was right. People just seem to object when people speak the truth. Truth hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 November, 2017 Share Posted 12 November, 2017 Rodgers was an absolute disrespectful c*nt to us when he signed Lallana and Lovren. I wouldn't want that pearly-toothed pr*ck anywhere near our club. At least he was employed by Liverpool when he disrespected us, we’ve got a centre half who did so when we were paying his wages Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 12 November, 2017 Share Posted 12 November, 2017 Forster Wanyama van Dijk All blow your argument apart. If we really wanted someone at Celtic, they'd come. They can't get remotely close to the wages Saints can offer. Money generally talks in football. Celtic have got a new head of recruitment, Chelsea's former chief scout, Lee Congerton. They've done very well to get him. Scouting and recruitment have always been the key to Celtic's success, more than the manager, the same as they were for us when we had Paul Mitchell. It will be interesting to see if Congerton can unearth gems in the transfer market, like Wanyama and van Dijk, as well as John Park did over the last 10 years. Brendan Rodgers didn't like the amount of power Park, with his job title of head of football development, had at Celtic and there was a bit of a power struggle, similar to that between Koeman and Reed. Park is now looking for a well-paid Les Reed-type position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 November, 2017 Share Posted 12 November, 2017 Celtic have got a new head of recruitment, Chelsea's former chief scout, Lee Congerton. They've done very well to get him. Scouting and recruitment have always been the key to Celtic's success, more than the manager, the same as they were for us when we had Paul Mitchell. It will be interesting to see if Congerton can unearth gems in the transfer market, like Wanyama and van Dijk, as well as John Park did over the last 10 years. Brendan Rodgers didn't like the amount of power Park, with his job title of head of football development, had at Celtic and there was a bit of a power struggle, similar to that between Koeman and Reed. Park is now looking for a well-paid Les Reed-type position. Not sure Congerton is such a coup for them though , just seen this about his time at Sunderland: http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/11/09/are-celtic-discovering-why-sunderland-fans-warned-them-about-lee/ I think a few have previously suggested on here we should get Celtic's head of recruitment to try and cut out the middleman as it were, perhaps Park's availability makes it possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 13 November, 2017 Share Posted 13 November, 2017 He said we had lost our ambition? He was right!! Not sure how thats disrespect? That summer we sold 5 first team players and replaced them with cheaper alternatives. It kinda worked for us temporarily, but that doesn't change the fact that he was right. People just seem to object when people speak the truth. Truth hurts Thats Ok whatever, but he's still a c#nt. Can we not get him in as next manager please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 13 November, 2017 Share Posted 13 November, 2017 When you look at the rate Managers are fired at, I would imagine that being the manager at Celtic is a pretty cosy gig IF you can keep churning out results, winning stuff keep everything ticking along without too much fuss. No spectre of doom anywhere near your front door, if the money is more than enough to get by on (I imagine the severance cheque from Liverpool would see the average Joe placed in a position to retire alone) the only thing to make you go elsewhere is personal ambition. I get impression that Neil Lennon got bored, which is why he left, and boredom is probably the only thing to see Rodgers depart........... given his nationality the weather in Glasgow isn't going to be much of a factor ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 13 November, 2017 Share Posted 13 November, 2017 When you look at the rate Managers are fired at, I would imagine that being the manager at Celtic is a pretty cosy gig IF you can keep churning out results, winning stuff keep everything ticking along without too much fuss. No spectre of doom anywhere near your front door, if the money is more than enough to get by on (I imagine the severance cheque from Liverpool would see the average Joe placed in a position to retire alone) the only thing to make you go elsewhere is personal ambition. I get impression that Neil Lennon got bored, which is why he left, and boredom is probably the only thing to see Rodgers depart........... given his nationality the weather in Glasgow isn't going to be much of a factor ;-) Mate, it's Celtic, even me and you could keep them winning given the 'competition'. With all due respect to the 'sweaty socks' the standard of football is absolute dire and has been for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 13 November, 2017 Share Posted 13 November, 2017 He said we had lost our ambition? He was right!! Not sure how thats disrespect? That summer we sold 5 first team players and replaced them with cheaper alternatives. It kinda worked for us temporarily, but that doesn't change the fact that he was right. People just seem to object when people speak the truth. Truth hurts Predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 13 November, 2017 Share Posted 13 November, 2017 Predictable trolling. Just made a change for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 13 November, 2017 Share Posted 13 November, 2017 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4897349/fernando-torres-premier-league-return-newcastle-southampton/amp/ Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Is this something to do with the announcement that BBC is expecting tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 13 November, 2017 Share Posted 13 November, 2017 Watford just rejected approach from everton for silva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 13 November, 2017 Share Posted 13 November, 2017 Watford just rejected approach from everton for silva Their arrogance knows no bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 Their arrogance knows no bounds. It's not that arrogant to reject Everton's approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 Watford just rejected approach from everton for silvayeah but when they go back again telling Watford of their history and the dug outs,Watford will have no choice to accept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 yeah but when they go back again telling Watford of their history and the dug outs,Watford will have no choice to accept What is the situation with the glass ceiling now? They haven't provided an update for a bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 yeah but when they go back again telling Watford of their history and the dug outs,Watford will have no choice to accept It worked with our old manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 It worked with our old manager Only because they added ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 Only because they added ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ On about paying Watford 8m compo too ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 Have Everton given up on Diego Simeone already then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 Its funny watching Everton try to be all "big club" when they clearly are not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 Its funny watching Everton try to be all "big club" when they clearly are not Only 3 clubs have been champions more than Everton, and they don't include the new kids on the block: Man City and Chelsea. But, it does show that the 'big club' group is constantly changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 (edited) Only 3 clubs have been champions more than Everton, and they don't include the new kids on the block: Man City and Chelsea. But, it does show that the 'big club' group is constantly changing. No Premier League champion wins though and there never will be and that`s what they unrealistically want..... They are the same as the rest of the the PL below the top 6, ordinary! with a decent season here and there Edited 14 November, 2017 by ALWAYS_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 November, 2017 Author Share Posted 14 November, 2017 Its funny watching Everton try to be all "big club" when they clearly are not I wonder if they will go for a pepe mel or a pellegrino type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 November, 2017 Share Posted 14 November, 2017 Its funny watching Everton try to be all "big club" when they clearly are not I just read this The dugout pioneers are willing to double Marco Silva’s wages and give him a considerable January transfer fund to try and persuade the highly-rated Watford manager to join Goodison Park in mid-season. From http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/marco-silva-future-everton-watford-double-wages-january-transfers-a8055176.html - albeit with a bit of artistic license at the start. Typical brash approach of just throwing money at it and everything will be fine.... as it was with RK of course. Do theses c^nts ever learn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 I'm not sure how I'd react if Saints attempted to pull off something similar to what Everton are doing right now with Watford. It seems classless to me. I wonder how long before the Everton supporters turn up on the Watford forums talking about dugouts and all the other pointless crap that they apparently created, thereby making them a huge club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Approaching a manager already in work - is that even allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 I'm not sure how I'd react if Saints attempted to pull off something similar to what Everton are doing right now with Watford. It seems classless to me. It would be great if we did it. Its exactly what we did to take Adkins from S****horpe but we don't have the clout to do it to other PL sides, just like we never go after established PL players even from lesser sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surman4no7shirt Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 He said we had lost our ambition? He was right!! Not sure how thats disrespect? That summer we sold 5 first team players and replaced them with cheaper alternatives. Just this. We sold all our best players and replaced them with mediocre ones. Why would another change of manager help? The players are not good enough. I guess seeing how Puel does at Leister will prove or disprove this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Just this. We sold all our best players and replaced them with mediocre ones. Why would another change of manager help? The players are not good enough. I guess seeing how Puel does at Leister will prove or disprove this.Puel doing well at Leicester would prove nothing. Having poorer players undoubtedly has an impact, but the players we have are capable of more than they are currently showing. Given the right incentives and coaching we could at the very least score more goals and play a more entertaining brand of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surman4no7shirt Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Puel doing well at Leicester would prove nothing. Having poorer players undoubtedly has an impact, but the players we have are capable of more than they are currently showing. Given the right incentives and coaching we could at the very least score more goals and play a more entertaining brand of football. Hope you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Board meeting today apparently.... Footballing style must change or Mr Pellegrino is gone. He is on thin ice are the words spoken. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This clearly didn't happen then, lardy chops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 This clearly didn't happen then, lardy chops? What didn't happen, a change of footballing style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 This clearly didn't happen then, lardy chops? How do you know? We haven’t had a game since he posted it. He said he was on thin ice and had to change his style, not that he was about to be imminently sacked. No wonder nobody with any sort of insider knowledge wants to post it - they are called out every time it’s perceived as incorrect (even where it’s been misunderstood). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 How do you know? We haven’t had a game since he posted it. He said he was on thin ice and had to change his style, not that he was about to be imminently sacked. No wonder nobody with any sort of insider knowledge wants to post it - they are called out every time it’s perceived as incorrect (even where it’s been misunderstood). Sorry, i've misread his post. Judging by the time it was posted, I thought he was discussing a board meeting later that day. Now I realise he was talking about what was said in the meeting. Apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Hope you're right. He isn't right. If Puel does well there it shows that the team here is not good enough. As simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Puel doing well at Leicester would prove nothing. Exactly right. Puel doing well at Leicester wouldn't change the fact he was the worst manager Southampton Football Club has ever had by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Interview with Mopey in the Daily Mail. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5078537/Mauricio-Pellegrino-vows-fulfill-Southampton-s-ambition.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Puel doing well at Leicester would prove nothing. Bizarre . So mane doing well at Liverpool proves nothing. Doesn’t prove we sold him too cheaply? So if Puel wins a cup this season, then gets Leicester champions league football the next 5, it won’t prove a thing? I’ve no doubt if they’re relegated you won’t be saying it proves nothing. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Interview with Mopey in the Daily Mail. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5078537/Mauricio-Pellegrino-vows-fulfill-Southampton-s-ambition.html Think he knows he's under a little pressure and is aware of the sentiment from the fans. Will be interesting how he solves the goal problem.....'cause looping in hopeful crosses from the fullbacks clearly isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surman4no7shirt Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 He isn't right. If Puel does well there it shows that the team here is not good enough. As simple as that. I was referring to this statement, I probably should have made it bold for clarity: ...but the players we have are capable of more than they are currently showing... I agree that if Puel does well at Leicester it proves the players aren't good enough (which is what I think). I hope I am wrong and that the players are more capable than they are currently showing as Hypocondriac said. Exactly right. Puel doing well at Leicester wouldn't change the fact he was the worst manager Southampton Football Club has ever had by far. Rubbish. Off the top of my head; Sturrock, Redknapp, Branfoot, Poortvliet, Wotte & Wigley were all significantly worse than Puel. The style of football was terrible, and I didn't like him as a manager here, but saying he's the worst manager we've ever had by far is demonstrably false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Exactly right. Puel doing well at Leicester wouldn't change the fact he was the worst manager Southampton Football Club has ever had by far. Yep, that's correct. That's very, very correct. I don't know what to put next...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Exactly right. Puel doing well at Leicester wouldn't change the fact he was the worst manager Southampton Football Club has ever had by far. Presumably you didn't bother going to lower league matches. Typical JCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Bizarre . So mane doing well at Liverpool proves nothing. Doesn’t prove we sold him too cheaply? So if Puel wins a cup this season, then gets Leicester champions league football the next 5, it won’t prove a thing? I’ve no doubt if they’re relegated you won’t be saying it proves nothing. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkIt has no bearing either way on his ability to manage Southampton. How he performs at a different club at a different time with different players and in a different setup has no relevance to his time at saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 So anyway. Remember that Oscar Garcia bloke who was touted a bit on this very forum last summer? Decided that St Etienne were far too poor for him to be able to continue and just quit today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 I was referring to this statement, I probably should have made it bold for clarity: I agree that if Puel does well at Leicester it proves the players aren't good enough (which is what I think). I hope I am wrong and that the players are more capable than they are currently showing as Hypocondriac said. Rubbish. Off the top of my head; Sturrock, Redknapp, Branfoot, Poortvliet, Wotte & Wigley were all significantly worse than Puel. The style of football was terrible, and I didn't like him as a manager here, but saying he's the worst manager we've ever had by far is demonstrably false. Fair, I agree to the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Exactly right. Puel doing well at Leicester wouldn't change the fact he was the worst manager Southampton Football Club has ever had by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Exactly right. Puel doing well at Leicester wouldn't change the fact he was the worst manager Southampton Football Club has ever had by far. niceandsimple, that's garbage even by the standards of this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 November, 2017 Share Posted 15 November, 2017 Watford just rejected approach from everton for silva & again http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/11/15/everton-fail-move-lure-marco-silva-watford/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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