Saints vs. Newcastle Thread

[hypochondriac]

Vvd definitely playing like it's a fitness sesh, pre Liverpool

 

 

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He's been no worse than anyone else. They've all been rubbish.

[OttawaSaint]

Maybe a lucky half time w4nk will help?

[DT]

Friend seems to be giving us quite a lot for a change???

 

Feels sorry for us

 

 

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[Saint_clark]

Our only hope is Yedlin getting sent off and giving us the man advantage.

[Saint Albert]

Well that was a disappointing first half. At least we beat them in the possession stats...

[Ohio Saint]

Maybe a lucky half time w4nk will help?

 

Ok, I got it out..... go ahead

[BotleySaint]

Dropping Redmond would surely be a step in the right direction for us and him. One decent cross but multiple posession offenses and just doesn't seem to have what it takes at this level.

[DT]

Absolutely dire first half. No tempo or drive. No guts. No one really having a go. Worse than Puel by far

 

 

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[badgerx16]

Other than WHU, when did we last score 2 at home ?

[striker]

Tadic is better, but he is still woeful around the goal. Never a good shot on goal. The same can be said for all the players out there. Great at passing it around and running around, but when its time to attack and put some shots on goal, nothing.

[Batman]

HT

woeful

another half without worrying their keeper

 

MP is a terrible manager.

 

how redmond is a starter every single week is bizarre

[Professor]

You can't sack the manager every time you go 1-0 down and, who knows, we might yet win this game, although listening to Dave and Adam on Radio Solent it's difficult to be optimistic. Our squad looks so much better on paper than the performances the team are putting in. Results can't be down to one or another player in team selection because we effectively have two players for all 11 positions who should be capable of starting. It's understandable that some people are beginning to ask whether the problem is with the manager or with the coaching but I think we can be certain that Pellegrino is more disappointed than anyone else by the performance and it can only be improved now by the players on the pitch. Perhaps we'll see an improvement after half-time.

[DT]

Pellegrino really hasn't got it. Good job we said no to that Silva chappie

 

 

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[shurlock]

Other than WHU, when did we last score 2 at home ?

 

Palace?

[trousers]

At the game.

 

Dreadful.

 

That is all.

[BotleySaint]

Absolutely dire first half. No tempo or drive. No guts. No one really having a go. Worse than Puel by far

At the current state of things we might as well have stuck with Puel.

[Viking Saint]

Absolutely dire first half. No tempo or drive. No guts. No one really having a go. Worse than Puel by far

 

 

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I'd say Lemina is doing everything he can, but he can't win it by himself....

[Baird of the land]

You'd think we're playing rugby union the amount we pass the ball backwards currently

Coupled with the fact we play at a pace in line with walking football much of the time

Also the massive gap in the middle of the pitch when we attack frustrates me. It's just so obvious we will shovel it wide because there's no one there.

 

Tadic has been bright today. Long Decent.

Redmond horrible. Gabbi absent.

Goal very poor. Why no one wanted to mark the guy on the edge of our own box baffles me.

[corky morris]

Usual pedestrian B 0 11 0 ( K S!!!

He is just as bad as clueless Puel!!!

We are so sloooooooowwww!!! Its absolute rubbish. 10 out of the 11 players are internationals & that's the rubbish we have to sit & watch.

[Ohio Saint]

I'd say Lemina is doing everything he can, but he can't win it by himself....

 

But that was plan B!!!

[Mr X]

Hope they don't leave it too late to act decisively! we could be in real trouble by Xmas if we continue our current form

 

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[Saint_clark]

At the current state of things we might as well have stuck with Puel.

 

Said in the summer that i'd like to give him to january to see what he does with the squad, but I understood why he was sacked.

Honestly, i'd take Nigel Adkins back in a heartbeat.

[jamesfp1]

I do feel sorry for Lemina

[Special K]

Redmond offers absolutely nothing in any formation. Passenger in a poor team. Needs to be sold in January. Boufal needs to be given the time Redmond is.

[Saint Albert]

At the current state of things we might as well have stuck with Puel.

 

It was pointless getting rid of Puel if the club did not have a decent replacement lined up. I see no evidence so far that Pellegrino is an upgrade on Puel.

[stknowle]

We just look utterly clueless in the final third. Everything is hopeful rather than purposeful.

[Batman]

It was pointless getting rid of Puel if the club did not have a decent replacement lined up. I see no evidence so far that Pellegrino is an upgrade on Puel.

 

I was firmly in the Puel out camp, but not for anyone. Pellegrino is even worse

[saintsmike25]

I'm starting to question coaching methods, and movement patterns. I believe the manager has coached players to focus only on possession and not to lose the ball, even when a dangerous pass could reap rewards - the first five minutes we dominated but whenever we got into advanced positions we passed it back leading to keep ball between Yoshida/Lemina/VVD.

Secondly when players do move it's far too late, and what we miss is Cedric/Bertrand stretching teams - neither venture past the 18 yard box of their half, and when Redmond simply isn't moving and stays static on the touchline, it makes it even harder to get the neccessary movement.

While Gabbi simply isn't involved and should be subbed, he lacks the neccessary workrate needed in a game like this - and he hasn't looked threatening either.

I'm minded if I was the manager to stick on Boufal instead of Gabbi, play him centrally, flitting in and about creating space with his clever dribbling. Sure he'll make mistakes but he will be a threat and not afraid to shoot or try something to unlock the defence.

The poor thing is we should be solid but one shot and one goal as always.. and when we had chances we failed to take them. Hopefully we can get it back in the second half as we're poor but so are Newcastle, we simply lack belief and ambition, and seem lost.

[SaltashSaint]

With that formation and the personnel in centre midfield, we are not going to have many shots at goal. Playing two upfront, which is a mistake in my opinion, means you need both Tadic and Redmond to stay out wide and whip the crosses in for the front two. We haven't done that unfortunately, and we haven't tested their keeper once. We need a genuine attacking midfielder who isn't afraid to shoot.

[Pamplemousse]

Said in the summer that i'd like to give him to january to see what he does with the squad, but I understood why he was sacked.

Honestly, i'd take Nigel Adkins back in a heartbeat.

 

Adkins would get the fans back onside at least. The players are the issue though.

[OldNick]

Puel should never have been sacked. There was a structure to our game, now it is a mess. Everything is too slow. Tadic wasteful instead of heading the ball across goal instead of his weak effort.To me this manager is poor IMO

[doddisalegend]

Another 45minutes of my life I won't get back we are so painfully average no tempo and precious little desire (Lemina aside). Newcastle aren't even very good one ****ing attempt on target and they score after keystone coos defending from us. I don't now how MoPe has done it but he has actually made us worse than last season.

[simo]

What's the point in playing 2 strikers if you play the attacking midfield that haven't been able to provide the service for 1 let alone 2 attackers !?

[trousers]

What sums it up for me is that we had a free kick 25 yards out and no-one seemed interested in having a crack at goal. Instead, we did the obvious floated ball over to the far post. So predictable. Surely that free kick was van Dijk territory? Lack of confidence or following manager's orders?

[supersonic]

We’re in big, big trouble.

[Avenue_Saint]

How the **** does redmond get in ahead of boufal. PLAY HIM

[Pamplemousse]

We were in the bottom four when Adkins came in and we ended up in 2nd place.

 

We need a morale boost, and he’s the perfect guy to do it.

[alpine_saint]

We are going down if we continue along this path.

 

Struggling to be bothered about it, tbh

[Saints foreva]

Marco Silva was available. Les Reed and the other **** who are at the helm of the transfers can do one.

[doddisalegend]

What sums it up for me is that we had a free kick 25 yards out and no-one seemed interested in having a crack at goal. Instead, we did the obvious floated ball over to the far post. So predictable. Surely that free kick was van Dijk territory? Lack of confidence or following manager's orders?

 

 

Better than the other free kick where everyone came up from the back only for us to pass a tame ball along the floor straight to a player in blue. A pass under no pressure and we still couldn't find a saints player.

[MOSaint]

It was pointless getting rid of Puel if the club did not have a decent replacement lined up. I see no evidence so far that Pellegrino is an upgrade on Puel.

 

Seems more and more like Puel got the boot because he didn't connect with fans and it was an easy way to score points with the fans as opposed to any footballing reasons. After all, Pellegrino seems to be doing little different except arguably worse.

[Batman]

We were in the bottom four when Adkins came in and we ended up in 2nd place.

 

We need a morale boost, and he’s the perfect guy to do it.

 

that was when we were the man city of the league

[trousers]

All subs out on the pitch warming up so looks like no subs at half time.

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[whoateallthepies]

The lack of urgency is really concerning. I don’t think the players actually care

 

Players don't care, board doesn't care, under qualified manager = rubbish. Has a similar feeling to the season we went down for me. Let's hope it's a different ending. Worrying that I'm already thinking the only option is to is get rid of Pellegrino and spend a bit in January but I won't hold my breath.

[Saint_clark]

Marco Silva was available. Les Reed and the other **** who are at the helm of the transfers can do one.

 

Everyone keeps mentioning him, but wasn't it reported that we approached him first and he turned us down?

[badgerx16]

All subs out on the pitch warming up so looks like so subs at half time.

But you can only use 3.

[doddisalegend]

Seems more and more like Puel got the boot because he didn't connect with fans and it was an easy way to score points with the fans as opposed to any footballing reasons. After all, Pellegrino seems to be doing little different except arguably worse.

 

 

At least the defence look organized under Puel it looks like a mess now.

[Ohio Saint]

We’re in big, big trouble.

 

Nah, we are just looking good in a quasimodo kinda way.

[saint1977]

You'd think we're playing rugby union the amount we pass the ball backwards currently

Coupled with the fact we play at a pace in line with walking football much of the time

Also the massive gap in the middle of the pitch when we attack frustrates me. It's just so obvious we will shovel it wide because there's no one there.

 

Tadic has been bright today. Long Decent.

Redmond horrible. Gabbi absent.

Goal very poor. Why no one wanted to mark the guy on the edge of our own box baffles me.

 

Pretty good summary. The League One promotion side would wipe the floor with this pathetic bunch. Poor half time reaction from the fans as well, let's at least have some booing and 'what a load of rubbish' but the same disinterested rubbish as the pitch.

 

Pellegrino has to go now and Les Reed as well I think - no clue and clearly can't inspire the players. Only Lemina, Tadic and Yoshi have remotely given a sh it. Thinking about Deeney's interview about Arsenal. same description applies, Saints have no cojones.

 

2% possession in our final third and a limited Newcastle side look way more dangerous.

 

There are 90 year old care home residents that could have got down to that Hayden shot. Redmond - conman, waste of oxygen and wages, opposite of the midas touch and his first act of the game was to moan at his teammates. Transfer list and he can train with Eastleigh until we flog him for £6m in January, he is a disease in our squad. If we must play one of the other diseases - VVD - then put him up front and gives us something to aim at. Yoshi put a peach of a cross in and no-one attacked it. McQueen for Bertrand please, another shocking display from him.

 

I never thought I'd say this but Big Sam, Hodgson etc would be much preferable to this clown. Rot set in under Puel but no guts to stand up to Reed again in the summer and insist more forward options and use the press like normal managers do.

[St Marco]

Exactly it all boils down to the guy making decisions. Reed. Black shouldn't be here. Built a squad with poor replacements who are not at the level we were at. We have gone from a free flowing attacking team into a dull, slow, hoof ball team. Half of them look like they can't even be bothered.