Mr X Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Its far to early to say he should go but the signs don't look good too early to say he certainly isn't a level up from puel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Yes, it is too early. That's why you shouldn't have made this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Should of kept Puel....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Big four games coming up for him. Newcastle H WBA H Brighton A Burnley H Anything less than 3 wins from that lot and we really are in the **** with a ****e manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 I want Les Reed to go, and Wilson too. Recruitment of attacking players is the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Same horrific level as Puel, based on evidence so far. Puel was horrendous, and nothing has changed. And we've had an easy start to the season as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Starting to think that he was the wrong appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Players simply not applying themselves when it counts...in the final third Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 I guess we just lost a game so the short termists come out to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 I want Les Reed to go, and Wilson too. Recruitment of attacking players is the issue. And playing one up front for so long when we haven't scored more than about 5 goals in the last God knows how many games. It's Ines usable in my opinion. If we dont set up to get more players in the box particularly at home and saints will be in for one hell of a relegation battle this season. I actually think we are likely to get more wins away from home.its ****ing horrible to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 I want Les Reed to go, and Wilson too. Recruitment of attacking players is the issue. Good point this one. An absolute joke that we didn't sign any attacking players in the Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 The fact he persists with the woeful three of Davis, Tadic and Redmond when we are crying out for goals shows he has no grasp of the problems facing the current side. Boufal did more and created more in 20 minutes today than any of them managed in the rest of the match. We had a pretty winnable set of fixtures to start the season, and apart from a lucky win against West Ham (where we were awful against 10 men) and three points against a hopeless Palace, he has failed spectacularly. Time for the board to admit they got it wrong and appoint a new game, where there is still time to make a difference this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Break the bank and get Carlo in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sad saints fan Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 I guess we just lost a game so the short termists come out to play I misread that as the short terrorist. Must be from Elf Qaeda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Reed and black should be replaced. MP has made a lot of mistakes but we needed a clear out of players this summer. Redmond, Tadic, Jwp, Long, Davis, Boufal, Gardos, Pied, Hoj, Classie should have all been moved on. They are either no longer good enough or have not done enough to remain here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 I think he's starting with the wrong team. It's frustrating to see Gabbi on the bench when the main reason he wasn't scoring was lack of supply. Get Redmond and Long off and Boufal and Gabbi on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 The decision to not replace Rodriguez looking like a catastrophic error right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintMB Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 I just hope he's not as set in his ways as Puel, and will actually come to the conclusion that something has to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 I want Les Reed to go, and Wilson too. Recruitment of attacking players is the issue. Just tweeted the same... they can take Black with them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 The decision to not replace Rodriguez looking like a catastrophic error right now. And letting Gallagher go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 I think MP is good and will come good. He can't be blamed for his attacking options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Just tweeted the same... they can take Black with them too. There's no doubt their lack of attacking recruitment meant they believed it was Puel & NOT the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Find room for Stuart Taylor too. Couldnt give a toss 'if he's a funny guy'. Most of our shooting in training takes place against a dross bloke in his thirties who's had a handful of first team games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Its not looking good at the moment to be honest, i was expecting more inspiration and organisation from him. But like Puel, he doesnt have enough quality in the squad and there are players getting games because there is no alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 It's just staggering that they sacked Puel for lack of goals and entertaining football (despite finishing 8th & getting to the cup final) and replace him with someone who is ****ing worse!!!!! What sort of recruitment process do they apply ffs?? I am fed up with these managers that set up the team not to lose rather than actually having a go at winning the game, and continue to persist with a system that clearly isn't working. Why as fans can we see it but the so called experts (eg manager & coaches) can't see it???? I want a manager in charge of Saints that has a connection to the club, is PASSIONATE, and can motivate this bunch of players. Boring manager = boring football = bored fanbase. I can't see anything changing anytime soon unless the board admit they have made a mistake (which they won't do) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 How did they let Silva slip through their fingers.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 It's just staggering that they sacked Puel for lack of goals and entertaining football (despite finishing 8th & getting to the cup final) and replace him with someone who is ****ing worse!!!!! What sort of recruitment process do they apply ffs?? I am fed up with these managers that set up the team not to lose rather than actually having a go at winning the game, and continue to persist with a system that clearly isn't working. Why as fans can we see it but the so called experts (eg manager & coaches) can't see it???? I want a manager in charge of Saints that has a connection to the club, is PASSIONATE, and can motivate this bunch of players. Boring manager = boring football = bored fanbase. I can't see anything changing anytime soon unless the board admit they have made a mistake (which they won't do) The football under MP is far far better. I think people forget Puel's games. You would lose count of the number of times we have not a single player inside the 18yard box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 I don’t understand what system we are trying to play. Its predictable, boring and I we just dont seem to put the other keeper under too much pressure. How does it change from what Pellegrino is offering us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 The football under MP is far far better. I think people forget Puel's games. You would lose count of the number of times we have not a single player inside the 18yard box. There's drivel and then there's drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Its not looking good at the moment to be honest, i was expecting more inspiration and organisation from him. But like Puel, he doesnt have enough quality in the squad and there are players getting games because there is no alternative. what other prem league manager leaves last seasons top scorer (Austin) and our best striker (Gabi) on the bench week after week in preference to a guy that hasn't scored in 19 games (Long) !!!!!!! We have the players, we don't have the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Some idiots clapped them off at the end. Going forward it was absolutely ****ing abysmal. As bad as Puel, if not worse at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 I think MP is good and will come good. He can't be blamed for his attacking options. Really? everyone was happy to blame Puel for his... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Really? everyone was happy to blame Puel for his... Not really, people got fed up with Puel because he onyl ever had 1 striker in the box. And how many games at home did we not score even a single goal with Puel. People need to notice the improvements. Laughable that they can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 The decision to not replace Rodriguez looking like a catastrophic error right now. Gabbi was basically the replacement for J Rod but we decided not to sell the latter in January, presumably because of Austin's injury. What we need is someone who can play more direct in a supporting role, as Mané did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 He's worse than Puel so far, think he's probably out of his depth. Just hope he doesn't **** away too many points in our "easy" fixtures and make it too difficult for the next guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 The results don't look too impressive, barely beating a poor Palace side and a poor West Ham side, draws against Swansea and Huddersfield who we really should be beating (that can be argued I suppose but we should), and poor losses against Stoke, Watford and Wolves in the cup. Results have been poor, even if we haven't looked too bad in games. (Except for in the final third of the pitch.) It's too early for a sacking, I'm usually supportive of a new manager, but things have to improve or we could be facing the big boys with a poor points tally. Personally I think we will come good, but he needs to find a solution to our goal scoring woes soon - and that means utilising the squad he has, not waiting until January to buy someone in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Not really, people got fed up with Puel because he onyl ever had 1 striker in the box. And how many games at home did we not score even a single goal with Puel. People need to notice the improvements. Laughable that they can't. Laughable that you think there is any major difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Some idiots clapped them off at the end. I'm far too young to talk about 'my day', but I swear this used to be the norm unless it was a real disgrace, players couldn't be bothered etc. Now half the grounds boo at half time if they haven't scored yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Break the bank and get Carlo in Do you really think he would come to St Marys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Do you really think he would come to St Marys. No but I'd still try everything within my power to get him ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Do you really think he would come to St Marys.Newcastle got benitez so you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Newcastle got benitez so you never know. That's it , Its like being scared to ask a bird out because you think she's too pretty for you ! Unless you ask you'll never know . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 No, apart from VVD I don't think he will have many players to sell for a huge profit this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 It is too early to call for his head but I have seen absolutely **** all from him so far to suggest he is a good appointment. I have seen plenty (bizarre persistence with ineffective formation with same out of form players) to suggest he is a bad one. Needs to fecking well change it up, demonstrate he can identify and solve an obvious problem, and just generally prove his mettle over the next four games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Les Read is the one who needs to go, guy knows nothing if he thinks Redmond Tadic and Boufal is good enough to go into the season with and maintain a 8th place finish, they are all too inconsistent and can't supply the strikers enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 That's it , Its like being scared to ask a bird out because you think she's too pretty for you ! Unless you ask you'll never know . Tried it, she was too pretty for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 He does look like he's aged 10 years in his post match interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 (edited) The strangest thing for me is the fact that we DO have alternatives in attacking positions but we never give them a chance. You'd think that when we have one aspect of our play so obviously wrong we might be prepared to experiment to solve it. I can't believe that Redmond is such a massive asset defensively that the team couldn't possibly function without him. Edited 30 September, 2017 by mrfahaji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 It's too early to say but I don't think the signs are good. We should have just stuck with Puel if MP was the genuinely the best option out there. People keep saying how good the defence is, and that's true, but it was good under Puel. The issue was scoring goals and MP has done nothing to address this. The club haven't done much either. I wasn't happy when they sold J-Rod but I understand the reason for doing it. What I don't understand is why he wasn't replaced. You have to win games to survive and that involves scoring goals - something we don't look like doing. Even the likes of Brighton, Watford and Swansea have got goals in them. Unless we get our ac together quickly we'll be down there with Palace - another team who can't score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 The strangest thing for me is the fact that we DO have alternatives in attacking positions but we never give them a chance. You'd think that when we have one aspect of our play so obviously wrong we might be prepared to experiment to solve it. I can't believe that Redmond is just a massive asset defensively that the team couldn't possibly function without him. Exactly. McQueen, Sims, Targett have all looked more creative than Tadic and Redmond. I know there's some injuries but the minute they're available I'd be giving them a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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