Man United Build-Up

[Saint_lambden]

Would only make 1 change from Palace:

 

----------------------FF--------------------

 

--Cedric-----Yoshi-----Hoedt---Bertrand--

 

------------Romeu---Lemina--------------

 

--Redmond------Davis---------Gabbi----

 

-------------------Long-------------------

 

Subs: Alex Mc, VVD, Stephens, JWP, Boufal, Tadic, Austin(if fit).

 

1-1.

[Disco Stu]

--------------Forster

----Yoshida---Van Dijk---Hoedt

Cedric-----------------------Bertrand

---------Romeu---Lemina

---------------Tadic

--------Long--------Gabbiadini

 

However I doubt he'll change formation.

[CB Fry]

Will be fascinating to see how Pellegrino will approach a game against one of the big guns.

 

We should be solid enough to make a game if it, but not convinced we have anything in us to nick it. So 0-0 then.

[Bad Wolf]

-----------------Forster------------------

--Hoedt------Yoshida-----VVD---------

----------Romeo---------Lemina-----------------

Cedric------------------------------------Bertrand

-----------------------Davis--------------------

-----------------------Tadic---------------------------------

-----------------------Long---------------------------------

[Toadhall Saint]

Will be fascinating to see how Pellegrino will approach a game against one of the big guns.

 

We should be solid enough to make a game if it, but not convinced we have anything in us to nick it. So 0-0 then.

 

Can't see it being nil nil tbh. Would happily take the point tho

[farawaysaint]

Nooot excited for this.

[Heisenberg]

May 2016 (May 1st Man City and May 8th Spurs) last time we beat one of top 6 in the premier league.

 

United game will be 503 days since our last top 6 league scalp.

 

Time is now..... 1-0 Saints, Austin 90th minute

[View From The Top]

I'm going with the lad so nailed on 0-0.

[Manuel]

Can't see us scoring enough and Man U to get a couple of 'lucky' goals.

[doddisalegend]

Can't see us getting much out of this game United look a much better team than last season and while we've started the season OK we haven't exactly set the world alight considering the calibre of our opposition so far this season. we would have to seriously up our game to trouble united this season I reckon.

[Dalek2003]

0-0

[trousers]

Forster

Cedric

VvD

Hoedt

Bertrand

Romeu

Lemina

Davis

Tadic

Boufal

Gabbiadini

 

Bench: McCarthy, Yoshida/Stephens, Targett, JWP, Tadic, Redmond/Long/Austin

 

Saints 2 (VvD, Gabbi) Man Utd 2

Edited 16 September, 2017 by trousers

[Roger]

Forster

Cedric

VvD

Hoedt

Bertrand

Romeu

Lemina

Davis

Tadic

Boufal

Gabbiadini

 

Bench: McCarthy, Yoshida/Stephens, Targett, JWP, Tadic, Long/Austin

 

Saints 2 (VvD, Gabbi) Man Utd 2

 

Tadic boufal and gabba vs Utd? Be overrun completely.,

[richardc]

Would only make 1 change from Palace:

 

----------------------FF--------------------

 

--Cedric-----Yoshi-----Hoedt---Bertrand--

 

------------Romeu---Lemina--------------

 

--Redmond------Davis---------Gabbi----

 

-------------------Long-------------------

 

Subs: Alex Mc, VVD, Stephens, JWP, Boufal, Tadic, Austin(if fit).

 

1-1.

 

I thought Tadic was miles better than Redmond today - what did Redmond do to keep his place ahead of Tadic

[Pamplemousse]

I'm off to this one. Last saw us play Man Utd in 2005, FA Cup game, and we got stuffed 4-0.

 

I think we'll lose, but I'll judge things on whether or not there is an improvement in the performance compared to the last home match, which was unacceptable in every area.

[Matthew Le God]

Forster

Cedric

VvD

Hoedt

Bertrand

Romeu

Lemina

Davis

Tadic

Boufal

Gabbiadini

 

Tadic boufal and gabba vs Utd? Be overrun completely.,

 

You think having 3 out of 11 players being particularly offensive players is too much?

[for_heaven's_Saint]

I thought Tadic was miles better than Redmond today - what did Redmond do to keep his place ahead of Tadic

 

Yup, he definitely was. Not sure Redmond deserves to start at the moment.

[doddisalegend]

Yup' date=' he definitely was. Not sure Redmond deserves to start at the moment.[/quote']

 

He is one of the few players with a bit of pace in the team replacing him with Boufal or JWP just slows down our already pedestrian attack you could replace him with Long but he generally gives the ball away even more than Redmond. Could possibly try McQueen out wide instead of Redmond I guess.

[benjii]

It's got to be front sweeper time, right?

 

In fact, I'd play a double front sweeper. A 3/4 front sweeper and an advanced front sweeper.

 

Virgil sweeping up in front of the back four and Longy sweeping up in front of the midfield.

 

****ing genius, me.

[dellboypete]

Any one going for three CB's?

 

When VvD came on yesterday, he immediately slipped into his commanding and dominant organising self - sorted out Hoedt and yosh and for the 5 or so minutes together I thought at the time that that formation could work.

 

Yosh has has a lot of experience filling in at wing back, so three cb with bert and cedric pushing up could cause them a few problems. On paper, our back four of cedric, vvd, hoedt, and bertrand looks to be as strong and as skillful as any I've seen this season (albeit on tv for most of them). And Lemina and Romeu also look like like developing into a brilliant holding midfield duo - all we need are a few more goals.

 

I was at the game yesterday, and having been to all our games this season, I was really blown away with Lemina (especially) but also Hoedt - these two must be two of the best buys we've made for ages. Hopefully Hoedt and VvD can really strike up a great partnership - probably too late for Holland though.

 

Tough test this one - but for the first time in a little while I'm beginning to think that we might start to give the so-called top six a run for their money

[Appy]

May 2016 (May 1st Man City and May 8th Spurs) last time we beat one of top 6 in the premier league.

 

United game will be 503 days since our last top 6 league scalp.

 

Time is now..... 1-0 Saints, Austin 90th minute

 

So that would be 2 of the big 4?

[doddisalegend]

Any one going for three CB's?

 

When VvD came on yesterday, he immediately slipped into his commanding and dominant organising self - sorted out Hoedt and yosh and for the 5 or so minutes together I thought at the time that that formation could work.

 

Yosh has has a lot of experience filling in at wing back, so three cb with bert and cedric pushing up could cause them a few problems. On paper, our back four of cedric, vvd, hoedt, and bertrand looks to be as strong and as skillful as any I've seen this season (albeit on tv for most of them). And Lemina and Romeu also look like like developing into a brilliant holding midfield duo - all we need are a few more goals.

 

I was at the game yesterday, and having been to all our games this season, I was really blown away with Lemina (especially) but also Hoedt - these two must be two of the best buys we've made for ages. Hopefully Hoedt and VvD can really strike up a great partnership - probably too late for Holland though.

 

Tough test this one - but for the first time in a little while I'm beginning to think that we might start to give the so-called top six a run for their money

 

Really? I think we are miles off them. Watford beat us rather easily (minus Lemina to be fair which might have made a difference) and yet City destroyed them with barely breaking a sweat. The Manchester sides seem to have gone up another level this season.

[dellboypete]

You're probably right - just getting a teeny weeny bit excited

[Highfield Saint]

Pogba out apparently - hamstring injury

[Pamplemousse]

Pogba out apparently - hamstring injury

 

Out for 12 weeks, so he might not even make the return fixture at the end of December

[Disco Stu]

It's a shame we're having to discuss who to shoe-horn into the attacking midfield roles. Should have sorted this over the summer.

Edited 17 September, 2017 by Disco Stu

[Toomer]

Hoping for a miracle think they will be to strong for us.

[tajjuk]

Really? I think we are miles off them. Watford beat us rather easily (minus Lemina to be fair which might have made a difference) and yet City destroyed them with barely breaking a sweat. The Manchester sides seem to have gone up another level this season.

 

Man City did do that last year but then fell away horribly, plus the lino and the ref certainly gave them a helping hand, two goals were offside and Watford had a stonewall penalty not given as well. Man City are superb going forward but brittle, Otamendi, Stones are dodgy as hell and both their full backs are good but better going forward than defending. Also they don't have much protection in front of that shaky defence.

 

If Salah had his shooting and crossing boots on Liverpool would have scored 2 before Mane got sent off.

 

Not that I particulary think we are near the top 6, need at least one outstanding attacker, maybe two in January, like basically unearth another Mane but not of the top 6 are that convincing to me, maybe Man Utd but the rest seem to have massive frailties. But I'd reckon our back 6 is up there with anyone in the league.

[rick1976.4.38]

well after just watching utd demolish everton think we maybe in for a hard game,they've so improved on last season.

nobody has their goalscoring boots on for us,whilst they are knocking them in for fun.

only thing is hopefully are defence can keep them out.

my prediction 1-3

up the saints

[Roger]

Forster

Cedric vvd hoedt Berty

Romeo lemina

Tadic Davis Redmond

Long.

[Shroppie]

I thought Tadic was miles better than Redmond today - what did Redmond do to keep his place ahead of Tadic

Totally agreed. Time Redmond was dropped, and Tadic is way better. Has the potential to be woken up by Lemina too.

 

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[Disco Stu]

Tadic benefited greatly from the diagonals produced by Hoedt and Lemina. A bit of creativity from the back!

[hasper57saint]

I'm going for a close run win for Saints.After seeing our midfield yesterday I'm pretty sure we can cause them problems.No doubt they'll be bidding for Lemina in January!

[suewhistle]

As long as they actually bid and don't just issue unattributed press releases, like certain other clubs..

[Pass the Dutchie]

Hopefully all will have an exra dose of motivation to impress against a big team. We're due a surprise win.

[adrian lord]

Signs that we are finally clicking under Pellegrino, and with VVD back and Lemina on fire, we will give United a real test: 2-1 Saints.

[ally_uk]

Way United are playing and the gulf in class of players I reckon they will smash us 4-0 not being negative I just can't see us beating them.

[Bailey]

Forster; Cedric, VVD, Hoedt, Bertrand; Romeu, Lemina; Tadic, Davis, Gabbiadini; Long.

[benjii]

A few selection dilemmas for this one and our first match against a good team. Will be interesting!

[Harry_SFC]

Forster; Cedric, VVD, Hoedt, Bertrand; Romeu, Lemina; Tadic, Davis, Gabbiadini; Long.

 

I'd go with this. Would like to see Gabbiadini on the right cutting onto his left foot. Apparently he was used in that position for Napoli a fair bit.

[GarrettIvo]

well after just watching utd demolish everton think we maybe in for a hard game,they've so improved on last season.

nobody has their goalscoring boots on for us,whilst they are knocking them in for fun.

only thing is hopefully are defence can keep them out.

my prediction 1-3

up the saints

 

Everton basically handed them the game with their **** midfield and central defence.

We won't do that (hopefully!)

 

But United have started with a rampage, so I wouldn't be surprised - or angry - if we get turned over.

 

Take a point as long as we can score a goal or two.

[Shroppie]

Forster; Cedric, VVD, Hoedt, Bertrand; Romeu, Lemina; Tadic, Davis, Gabbiadini; Long.

This for me too. Yoshida for VVD if he doesn't start.

 

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[Graffito]

We've been expected to win our homes games up to now. Here's a home game we're not expected to win and this could be to our advantage. A couple of goals from open play would be good so as to get rid of the pressure of not scoring and, you never know, without the weight of expectation we might just spring a surprise and win.

[Saint Garrett]

--------------Forster------------------

Cedric----VVD----Hoedt----Bertrand

----------Romeu-Lemina-------------

Tadic---------Davis---------Redmond

---------------Long-------------------

[Shroppie]

We've been expected to win our homes games up to now. Here's a home game we're not expected to win and this could be to our advantage. A couple of goals from open play would be good so as to get rid of the pressure of not scoring and, you never know, without the weight of expectation we might just spring a surprise and win.

But we don't really expect to win home games at the moment. Since the beginning of Feb, our away record is great: W5 D3 L2.

 

But the home record over the same period is the problem: W2 D4 L4.

 

Confidence at home is low and the crowd need to do their bit too - don't start moaning as soon as things aren't going right.

 

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[mrfahaji]

He is one of the few players with a bit of pace in the team replacing him with Boufal or JWP just slows down our already pedestrian attack you could replace him with Long but he generally gives the ball away even more than Redmond. Could possibly try McQueen out wide instead of Redmond I guess.

 

Does he though? I'm wondering if he is actually that quick. He has quick feet, always looks 'nippy', and is certainly faster than Tadic, but how often does he cover the ground quickly in the way that Long does? Does he ever beat a defender hands down for pace? I have a feeling the stats mcbendy posted, although far from reliable evidence, also failed to show Redmond as one of the speediest in the squad.

[Useful Idiot]

Does he though? I'm wondering if he is actually that quick. He has quick feet, always looks 'nippy', and is certainly faster than Tadic, but how often does he cover the ground quickly in the way that Long does? Does he ever beat a defender hands down for pace? I have a feeling the stats mcbendy posted, although far from reliable evidence, also failed to show Redmond as one of the speediest in the squad.

 

According to that spreadsheet that posted a while ago Redmond's overall pace isn't great. However, he is fast over 5-10 metres. Boufal is quicker over the same distance though.

[Max]

Forster

Cedric

VvD

Hoedt

Bertrand

Romeu

Lemina

 

 

Davis

Tadic

Boufal

Gabbiadini

 

Bench: McCarthy, Yoshida/Stephens, Targett, JWP, Tadic, Redmond/Long/Austin

 

Saints 2 (VvD, Gabbi) Man Utd 2

 

That is our best team on paper. However, that front 3 aren't on form. I'd like to see it though.

[bpsaint]

Wish I was as optimistic as some people on here, winning 1-0 against a truly awful Palace and suddenly we're in a position to turn over United!? VVD or not I still expect to get soundly beaten by them, I'd absolutely bite your hand off for a point but won't hold my breath.

[Avenue_Saint]

Forster

Cedric

VvD

Hoedt

Bertrand

Romeu

Lemina

Davis

Tadic

Boufal

Gabbiadini

 

Bench: McCarthy, Yoshida/Stephens, Targett, JWP, Tadic, Redmond/Long/Austin

 

Saints 2 (VvD, Gabbi) Man Utd 2

 

Would like to see this. Boufal needs run with the new found stability and organisation behind him