Paulwantsapint81 Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 Only way to simplify is revisit the single colour crest we tried a few years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 Leave it alone. You can’t improve on perfection 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backrow91 Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 Absolutely keep the current crest......didn’t mind too much when they updated the ball and I would like to see 1885 incorporated into the badge. Where would it go though? Maybe a subtle 1885 on one end of the scarf? Somewhere on the shield? .....always thought we should show how old we are as a club...... mind you I don’t fancy any Latin phrases! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: Juve has got to be the worst one out there. Someone probably got half a million Euros to come up with a J but with another line next to it. The scrapped Leeds one was a classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 6 hours ago, Bob Belcher said: Would rather cover my nads in honey and lay in a pile of fire ants naked than have the above as our crest. Perfect way it is. 4 hours ago, trousers said: Normal weekend for me Just asking for a friend........ Do you know if my friend could substitute Honey with Lemon Curd or Golden Syrup? as sadly Honey brings me out in a terrible rash. Many thanks in advance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintquin Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 33 minutes ago, Backrow91 said: Absolutely keep the current crest......didn’t mind too much when they updated the ball and I would like to see 1885 incorporated into the badge. Where would it go though? Maybe a subtle 1885 on one end of the scarf? Somewhere on the shield? .....always thought we should show how old we are as a club...... mind you I don’t fancy any Latin phrases! You could possibly put 18 left of the rose and 85 on the right side! I would rather go back to what we had than have that American style rubbish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 Has anyone seen the other clubs they've tried to adjust? https://sportslens.com/premier-league-club-crests-2020/317874/ They need to leave well alone! Imagine the uproar at the Palace one in particular! wtf is that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 9 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Absolute shite. I still haven't seen anyone do a better effort than our current one. And there’s the rub. There’s plenty of our fans that don’t like our badge, fair enough. Yet I’ve never seen any other redesign that looks better. Personally, I quite like ours. It’s immediately recognisable as us and IMO doesn’t look outdated, and while I agree it’s not exactly fine art, I like the assimilation of all things Southampton into the badge. It also seems to be quite well received amongst neutrals, there’s been a few fan polls done down the years of best club badge and ours is often up there. Until someone comes up with something better, ours is fine for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 36 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Has anyone seen the other clubs they've tried to adjust? https://sportslens.com/premier-league-club-crests-2020/317874/ They need to leave well alone! Imagine the uproar at the Palace one in particular! wtf is that! I quite like the Villa one and the Liverpool one is ok, the rest are shit, ours particularly but not as bad as Man Us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 1 hour ago, John Boy Saint said: Just asking for a friend........ Do you know if my friend could substitute Honey with Lemon Curd or Golden Syrup? as sadly Honey brings me out in a terrible rash. Many thanks in advance Don't be ridiculous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 Their designs for every club is worse than the current version. They don't seem to realise how cheap they look, with rigid straight lines and bold font everywhere...Premier League clubs are a premium brand these days and want everything to look quality. Our badge btw is one of the best around, it's unique (there's an awful lot of just shields and circles out there) and incorporates many aspects of the local area. As someone said above, including 1885 somewhere on there would be good but otherwise, leave it alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 Leave it alone! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 I've never been a fan of the badge as with all the various elements it appears too cluttered. Up until a couple of seasons ago I'd have welcomed a change. This type of thread has run a few times before and on one occasion I think a poster under the name of Gecko gave some excellent alternative options. However I've come to realise that any change is likely to be a modern abortion of a design so would rather it be left alone. The suggested design here is perhaps a prime example of why it should remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 12 hours ago, HarvSFC said: The scrapped Leeds one was a classic. Was the 'Ted Bates statue' of badges wasn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 12 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Has anyone seen the other clubs they've tried to adjust? https://sportslens.com/premier-league-club-crests-2020/317874/ They need to leave well alone! Imagine the uproar at the Palace one in particular! wtf is that! They are all utter sh*t. But I note they are done by a "graphic designer from the US". That would explain why they look sh*t. Graphic design in the US is way behind anything over here, hence the love of CAPITALISING EVERYTHING. Ugh. The Saints badge should be left alone. This is discussed every year, just leave it the f**k alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 Only thing I would do to our badge is get the old style football back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archers Road Stand Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 I wouldn't mind if we reverted back to this version of the current badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 What do we need a badge for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 Our redesigned badge looks like Stoke Citys and a bad lookalike at that.One of those made up ones from PES franchise,like the names London Red etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 (edited) I'm not a fan of the current badge, bit too gimmicky for me. Now I fully intend to win the Euro£Millions this weekend and then go straight out and bang the lot on a 10/1 shot at the races. When it storms home I'm gonna buy SFC and the first thing I'll do, and this won't please everyone/anyone, is change that darn badge and it will probably look something more like this Edited 19 November, 2020 by alehouseboys pic disappeared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 This is the traditional city coat of arms and it used to adorn the Boardroom walls at the Dell I wouldn't normally praise anything relating to that little island to the east but they certainly got it right reverting back to their current emblem that ties in with council. It pops up everywhere down there, all the councillors wear lapel badges, the street names show it, it's on all kinds of literature so constantly promotes the club too. The shield element of the Southampton crest was the SFC badge until 1974 (although we never had it on the shirts), it's still used around the city and wouldn't harm the club to share the exposure. But what about this, is someone taking the piss? http://www.vitraux.co.uk/product/ref-ed329-2-edwardian-stained-glass-windows-armorial-heraldic-coat-arms/ed329cl2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StDunko Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 1 minute ago, alehouseboys said: This is the traditional city coat of arms and it used to adorn the Boardroom walls at the Dell I wouldn't normally praise anything relating to that little island to the east but they certainly got it right reverting back to their current emblem that ties in with council. It pops up everywhere down there, all the councillors wear lapel badges, the street names show it, it's on all kinds of literature so constantly promotes the club too. The shield element of the Southampton crest was the SFC badge until 1974 (although we never had it on the shirts), it's still used around the city and wouldn't harm the club to share the exposure. But what about this, is someone taking the piss? http://www.vitraux.co.uk/product/ref-ed329-2-edwardian-stained-glass-windows-armorial-heraldic-coat-arms/ed329cl2/ Surely that is much worse for the skates than us, if they've been running around with a Southampton heraldic coat of arms on their shirts! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 14 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said: They are all utter sh*t. But I note they are done by a "graphic designer from the US". That would explain why they look sh*t. Graphic design in the US is way behind anything over here, hence the love of CAPITALISING EVERYTHING. Ugh. The Saints badge should be left alone. This is discussed every year, just leave it the f**k alone. Never knew that about US graphic design. But the graphics they use on their TV channels/programmes really are shit, all look alike and 20 years out of date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 2 hours ago, alehouseboys said: I'm not a fan of the current badge, bit too gimmicky for me. Now I fully intend to win the Euro£Millions this weekend and then go straight out and bang the lot on a 10/1 shot at the races. When it storms home I'm gonna buy SFC and the first thing I'll do, and this won't please everyone/anyone, is change that darn badge and it will probably look something more like this A combination of that and the existing would be enough for me! Take the existing saints badge, remove the southampton fc from the bottom and then place it within your design (obviously removing the old southampton shield first). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 2 hours ago, alehouseboys said: I'm not a fan of the current badge, bit too gimmicky for me. Now I fully intend to win the Euro£Millions this weekend and then go straight out and bang the lot on a 10/1 shot at the races. When it storms home I'm gonna buy SFC and the first thing I'll do, and this won't please everyone/anyone, is change that darn badge and it will probably look something more like this That's probably the best version of the old badge I've seen. But it needs a halo and a tree and two rivers and maybe a ball and scarf would be nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 14 minutes ago, djharvey said: A combination of that and the existing would be enough for me! Take the existing saints badge, remove the southampton fc from the bottom and then place it within your design (obviously removing the old southampton shield first). The 1976-77 FA Cup winners badge was like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 Just now, Fan The Flames said: The 1976-77 FA Cup winners badge was like that. centenary badge was also similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 So basically very similar to the centenary badge but with THE SAINTS in place of centenary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ajv2809 Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 Do think the current one is a bit tacky. Did like the single coloured variant from the Cortese era, but would rather we just modernised what we have now. Surely there are other mock-ups out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 I’m no good at drawing but perhaps the outline of the spire of St. Mary’s church, with a large may flower at the bottom. Would look a bit less gimmicky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 16 hours ago, Fan The Flames said: Yep! That with "THE SAINTS" replacing fa cup winners etc. & have 1885 split between both sides. Reckon that would be enough for a refresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, djharvey said: A combination of that and the existing would be enough for me! Take the existing saints badge, remove the southampton fc from the bottom and then place it within your design (obviously removing the old southampton shield first). Here's a compromise combo Edited 20 November, 2020 by alehouseboys Call me old fashion but I still prefer the old roses :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 3 hours ago, alehouseboys said: Here's a compromise combo Why not try what i suggested, go on, reckon it'll look great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 Just now, djharvey said: Why not try what i suggested, go on, reckon it'll look great! and if you love the roses then why not put the extra two where the water and tree are on current badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 Just use this template but reduce size of the shield and then place the scarf/ball/halo above it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 Now i'm no expert but did that in about half hour using others images and paint. If the club did that then i'd be happy! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 21 November, 2020 Share Posted 21 November, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, djharvey said: Now i'm no expert but did that in about half hour using others images and paint. If the club did that then i'd be happy! No doubt, that certainly improves the look of our current badge for me (thought the same when they did similar after 76) so, if nothing else..... Edited 21 November, 2020 by alehouseboys Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 21 November, 2020 Share Posted 21 November, 2020 4 hours ago, alehouseboys said: No doubt, that certainly improves the look of our current badge for me (thought the same when they did similar after 76) so, if nothing else..... Yeah, the club really don't need to do anything more than a slight update/refresh. We don't need/want a total re-branding. I really believe the addition of "THE SAINTS" and 1885 within the circular badge whilst also enlarging the font on Southampton fc actually compliments/enhances our current design A few tweaks to my effort below, but really think that would take a lot of beating without upsetting a whole swathe of the fan base! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 21 November, 2020 Share Posted 21 November, 2020 Change for the sake of change. Leave it as is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 21 November, 2020 Share Posted 21 November, 2020 9 hours ago, alehouseboys said: No doubt, that certainly improves the look of our current badge for me (thought the same when they did similar after 76) so, if nothing else..... Do you have any images of the city shield only, i could use for a mock up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 21 November, 2020 Share Posted 21 November, 2020 On 13/09/2017 at 09:23, adriansfc said: 100%. I think ours has always been a little cartoony. Also think most clubs need a revamp now with the amount of use of social media, phones etc. People mocked the simplicity of Juventus' new badge but think it actually works really well and looks modern. Think the days of a scarf and football on the badge should be over. Football is about history. and Saints have a proud history, reflected in the design. Our crest is a proud, positive upbeat design and it It can be recognised from a distance. Most modern redesigns by clubs are impersonal, weak. and lack character.. No way change ours. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 21 November, 2020 Share Posted 21 November, 2020 On 19/11/2020 at 19:31, alehouseboys said: I'm not a fan of the current badge, bit too gimmicky for me. Now I fully intend to win the Euro£Millions this weekend and then go straight out and bang the lot on a 10/1 shot at the races. When it storms home I'm gonna buy SFC and the first thing I'll do, and this won't please everyone/anyone, is change that darn badge and it will probably look something more like this This has stirred something in my memory, did you get this from your old scouts uniform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 21 November, 2020 Share Posted 21 November, 2020 6 hours ago, djharvey said: Yeah, the club really don't need to do anything more than a slight update/refresh. We don't need/want a total re-branding. I really believe the addition of "THE SAINTS" and 1885 within the circular badge whilst also enlarging the font on Southampton fc actually compliments/enhances our current design A few tweaks to my effort below, but really think that would take a lot of beating without upsetting a whole swathe of the fan base! The text of Southampton FC is a bit more modern than currently used, but that’s the only improvement on what we’ve got. The red outside the circle is pretty awful, and I don’t believe any sports team should have their nickname written out on the badge, symbology is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 21 November, 2020 Share Posted 21 November, 2020 1 hour ago, The Kraken said: The text of Southampton FC is a bit more modern than currently used, but that’s the only improvement on what we’ve got. The red outside the circle is pretty awful, and I don’t believe any sports team should have their nickname written out on the badge, symbology is enough. Red outside the circle was just to give idea on a red stripe 4 hours ago, SaintsLoyal said: Do you have any images of the city shield only, i could use for a mock up ? Ignore me if I'm stating the obvious - Google 'Southampton Crest' - click images - open - right click 'save as image' 3 hours ago, Toussaint said: This has stirred something in my memory, did you get this from your old scouts uniform? No. I was a Brownie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 21 November, 2020 Share Posted 21 November, 2020 4 hours ago, Toussaint said: This has stirred something in my memory, did you get this from your old scouts uniform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 22 November, 2020 Share Posted 22 November, 2020 9 hours ago, djharvey said: That’s the one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 November, 2020 Share Posted 22 November, 2020 The scarf and the ball are just so 70s. Revert to the city crest with some fine adjustments like introducing 1885 into it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 22 November, 2020 Share Posted 22 November, 2020 2 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: The scarf and the ball are just so 70s. Revert to the city crest with some fine adjustments like introducing 1885 into it. I like the idea but a major influence in the club's dedision making is that they'd never own the full copyright to the city crest as they would to a bespoke design. I'm not sure the minor tweaks/additions would satisfy the club that it wasn't easy to pass off on merchandise. A crest I found intersting was on a the Church hall or building near St Mary's at the time the stadium was built, it combined the city crest with the St Mary's crest which from recollection was crossed keys. That would have been a suitable change at the time we were moving back to the area (although probably still subject to a copyright consideration).The building though is no longer there and I've been unable to trace this on the internet since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 22 November, 2020 Share Posted 22 November, 2020 My wife would be so upset if the badge was changed . It is part of the club's heretage. Why must every thing be trendy, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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