aintforever Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 he's trying to be polite about KL, basically saying she didnt want to take the club any further. It is how we all suspected really. Didn't ant Cortese to **** her money up the wall aiming for CL? Can't blame her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 he's trying to be polite about KL, basically saying she didnt want to take the club any further. It is how we all suspected really. The only ones who didn't were those that seemed to think that ML's legacy/investment was for the benefit of Southampton rather than to his daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 If you were Mr. Gao and daughter, who would you entrust more to turn this around (but perhaps with some cost) ? Krueger and Reed, or Cortese ? I know which I'd go for.I thought Cortese ran the club like a crappy seaside B&B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 I thought Cortese ran the club like a crappy seaside B&B? Yeah!! but... no but!!..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 I'm sure White is going to suck him off after the show Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 If you were Mr. Gao and daughter, who would you entrust more to turn this around (but perhaps with some cost) ? Krueger and Reed, or Cortese ? I know which I'd go for. I would put Krueger and Cortese together. Could be amusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 The sycophancy is cringe worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Nik Nak still hitting a nerve - do wonder about some posters wellbeing listening to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 I would put Krueger and Cortese together. Could be amusing jesus, its a no brainer isnt it? Regardless of whether you like NC or not, which one would you want to run your business..... if you could afford it mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Apparently he is off to work for Topps Tiles next, getting out of football altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Apparently he is off to work for Topps Tiles next, getting out of football altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Anyone without a pro or anti Cortese agenda please summarise whats been said so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 The sycophancy is cringe worthy. it is insnt it, would have been better with Adrian Durham or Mark Saggers, even Danny Kelly, but we get a **** like Jim White ala Alan Brazil, journalists? Do me a favour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Its the SFC wannabe hanger-oner's that seemed to have their noses put out the most by Cortese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Anyone without a pro or anti Cortese agenda please summarise whats been said so far? Is that even possible on this place anymore Monk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Anyone with out a pro or anti Cortese agenda please summarise whats been said so far? He is good at negotiating, he didnt have a plan for Pardew but when he did Pardew wasnt part of it. He ****ed off Eddie Howe He knew KL was selling so he was off The training ground was costing more becasue of the status and the pitches required We should have signed Courtinio but Liverpool muscled us out but luckily we got Ramires anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 I tried ringing to ask him about the £20m tiles but they said it wasnt appropriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Not that I am particularly interested, but apart from Matt, were there any other callers?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 He is good at negotiating, he didnt have a plan for Pardew but when he did Pardew wasnt part of it. He ****ed off Eddie Howe He knew KL was selling so he was off The training ground was costing more becasue of the status and the pitches required We should have signed Courtinio but Liverpool muscled us out but luckily we got Ramires anyway What happened with Howe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 no, but you're not intrerested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isla Wight Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Not that I am particularly interested, but apart from Matt, were there any other callers?? Seems strange that no one else was put on when Jim White pleaded for Saints fans to call in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 NC'S Closing comment: "for the right project, i would definitely be willing to look into it. Football works well for me, and if their is an opportunity there then I could very much think of coming back. I don't know if it will be england." He also had a breakfast with a very eminent person in football this morning. I didn't catch the rest sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 What happened with Howe? interviewed him after Pardew, Adkins was number one choice but was swayed by Howe and he waited and waited, then Howe got ****ed offf and withdrew anyway. He then said it would have been Nige anyway, but he didnt sound so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 He is good at negotiating, he didnt have a plan for Pardew but when he did Pardew wasnt part of it. He ****ed off Eddie Howe He knew KL was selling so he was off The training ground was costing more becasue of the status and the pitches required We should have signed Courtinio but Liverpool nuscled us out but luckily we got Ramirez anyway Also Ox & family played up so he sold him, as he needed the money for cat 1 academy Scouting Courtino with Mitchell & Nigel he saw Poch so started checking him out with agents. Liked his training regime , double sessions etc. Had a working breakfast with somebody interesting today Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 no, but you're not intrerested Only not interested because of the calibre of Matt's call. If someone had asked proper questions, and that includes Jim "I'm your best buddy" White, then it would have been a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 (edited) He is good at negotiating, he didnt have a plan for Pardew but when he did Pardew wasnt part of it. He ****ed off Eddie Howe He knew KL was selling so he was off The training ground was costing more becasue of the status and the pitches required We should have signed Courtinio but Liverpool nuscled us out but luckily we got Ramirez anyway Are you hard of hearing or memory? There was supposedly an agreement with Inter for Coutinho in the 2013 January window (€10m+2m in bonuses) -after Ramirez had joined. Initially Liverpool put in a lower offer - they then matched our offer and the rest was history. In the end, we never even spoke to the player. Edited 12 September, 2017 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 NC'S Closing comment: "for the right project, i would definitely be willing to look into it. Football works well for me, and if their is an opportunity there then I could very much think of coming back. I don't know if it will be england.2 He also had a breakfast with a very eminent person in football this morning. Stan Kronke, you heard it here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 What happened with Howe? Not quite ****ed him off. Cortese wanted to speak to Adkins and it took him a full week before he could. Howe felt he was 2nd choice so he withdrew his interest in the managers job. Imho Cortese may of been forced to employ Adkins as he spoke so highly of Howe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Are you hard of hearing or memory? There was supposedly an agreement with Inter for Coutinho in the 2013 January window (€10m+2m in bonuses) -after Ramirez had joined. Initially Liverpool put in a lower offer - they then matched our offer and the rest was history. We never even got a chance to speak to the player. are you without a sense of humour or irony? It wasnt meant to be factual, or I might have said, its okay, we got Dani anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 There seemed to be a certain amount of revisionism about his departure. He said that he was unmotivated and had other things he wanted to do (personal ones that he didn't want to talk about). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 interviewed him after Pardew, Adkins was number one choice but was swayed by Howe and he waited and waited, then Howe got ****ed offf and withdrew anyway. He then said it would have been Nige anyway, but he didnt sound so sure. Howe wanted full control of footballing affairs so turned him down - that's what I heard from a good source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 are you without a sense of humour or irony? It wasnt meant to be factual, or I might have said, its okay, we got Dani anyway We got Forren instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 I recall the story of how ML in his dying days made a long journey to present his friend a watch ( I think this was the case) and that NC promised ML to carry on Marcus's dream. Therefore if that was indeed the case, he may have thought that was his remit. I know it is heresy to say anything about KL, but IMO her long term plan, was only ever to get the best price for herself. Nothing wrong in that, but ML with NC were going to be ruthless to get our club where they had stated it would be.CL football as fanciful as it seemed was very close to us if the investment had been made, in those days when the big clubs were in flux. NC run the club as a dictator and yes it did ruffle the feathers of many people, especially those who were used to freebies. I have no malice toward KL or any board since the Go Wilde days but I think fans should show a bit more respect and gratitude to NC, who put SFC under the nose of ML and sold us to him. If not imagine that consortium that Matty had foolishly backed taking over, we would now be playing at the Sports Centre Good post. How fast our fans forget. He wanted to continue with MLs roadmap, KL didnt. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Howe wanted full control of footballing affairs so turned him down - that's what I heard from a good source. And how different is that from what Reed does when filtering management candidates ? Puel and Pellegrino are Reed's patsys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 When people need to qualify their disapproval of Cortese by recalling intricate elaborate inside stories, this is where I switch off. I couldn't give a toss about anything other than on the field performance. He found us a billionaire. That billionaire trusted and respected his judgement implicitly. He brought us back to the prem with a squad that was at no risk of being dismantled up until his departure. I would welcome him back with open arms Amen. He has the mindset that is needed, what is clearly missing from the club presently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 And how different is that from what Reed does when filtering management candidates ? Puel and Pellegrino are Reed's patsys. no different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Good post. How fast our fans forget. He wanted to continue with MLs roadmap, KL didnt. Simples. You've absolutely no idea what ML would have done once we reached the PL. would he have wanted to push on from 6th or would he have sold up making a massive profit? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Personally felt the club lost a bit of its soul under him. One of our greatest ever players was basically erased from our history. It was also cringeworthy how any new signing seemed to mention how influential he had been in negotiations, likewise whenever any of the current players signed new deals. It was almost like they were given a script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Wonder what Alpine would say had Reed agreed a fee for Courtino & got gazumped Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Tell you what, if anyone can turn Arsenal around, he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morse Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 NC'S Closing comment: "for the right project, i would definitely be willing to look into it. Football works well for me, and if their is an opportunity there then I could very much think of coming back. I don't know if it will be england." He also had a breakfast with a very eminent person in football this morning. I didn't catch the rest sadly. "He had breakfast with a very eminent person in football this morning". LOL, he can't help himself LOL, he's full of 5h1t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 "He had breakfast with a very eminent person in football this morning". LOL, he can't help himself LOL, he's full of 5h1t. Why ? He delivered exactly what was written on the tin where we were concerned. If he is talking to the likes of Arsenal, I'd like to see us try to get him back. Unfinished business and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 You've absolutely no idea what ML would have done once we reached the PL. would he have wanted to push on from 6th or would he have sold up making a massive profit? Aw, that's b*ll*cks. ML and NC clearly had a plan, and its KL's different perspective to MLs that caused a parting of the ways between SFC and NC. That means ML wasnt planning to sell up for a profit. He was a FAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Why ? He delivered exactly what was written on the tin where we were concerned. If he is talking to the likes of Arsenal, I'd like to see us try to get him back. Unfinished business and all that. He would never come back as he would be slated badly for getting rid of all the deadwood in the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 (edited) He would never come back as he would be slated badly for getting rid of all the deadwood in the club. Uncle Les vs Nik Nak would be a power struggle for the ages. Edited 12 September, 2017 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartan_saint Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Who is that ****ing clown Matt. " Not many like what's happened the last 2 or 3 years". That's bull Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I assume it was this tool. https://twitter.com/MathewSeymour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 (edited) That means ML wasnt planning to sell up for a profit. He was a FAN. Balls, you've no idea what would have happened if 200mil was waved in front of his face at 66/67 years old . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited 12 September, 2017 by Lord Duckhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Where is all this hero worship coming from, the usuals were calling him "clotese" when he was at Saints. What next? Neil McCann for inclusion in Saints greatest XI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Its funny reading the original "Cortese has left Southampton Football Club - Officially Confirmed" thread and seeing the same posters now slagging Cortese were in full meltdown when he left. He was "simply the best" but now a waste of space.... Apparently Only on SWF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Its funny reading the original "Cortese has left Southampton Football Club - Officially Confirmed" thread and seeing the same posters now slagging Cortese were in full meltdown when he left. He was "simply the best" but now a waste of space.... Apparently Only on SWF Interesting to hear you and Cortese talking about complacency pal - did the two of you do a MBA at the same business school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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